Kevin

15 minutes ago, GrandpaPhil said:

Kevin,

 

They have them at Cornwall Model Boats too:

https://www.cornwallmodelboats.co.uk/acatalog/San-Felipe-Construction-Plans-Set-976.html#SID=137

yes they do, was just asking to see anyone had an old set they no longer needed

1 hour ago, scrubbyj427 said:

I do have a set but they are buried in a container. How patient are you?

thank you for getting back to me i will PM you 

good morning, 

if anyone has a plans set of this kit, mainly rigging plans and wants to sell, please let me know

great start, i love VM kits, 

she has returned, and dragged me with her, morning everyone

Apollo says hi to everyone as well

Conclusion

The kit

This is my first Occre Ship kit and i was surprised  how well she would turn out, she will certainly not be my last one

The hull

at 1/50 she builds up fast into a nice  90cm long sleek looking hull, without much effort, but:

Far too few frames I think at least another 4 frames are needed and  as a result careful attention is required on the fairing to ensure the planks have max contact, she is  also  single planked therefore, some experience at planking would be suggested rather than the non tapering way suggested, with lots of infills

The shaft tube area, could do with  better defined photos and explanations, it is very much hit and miss on trying to get this important area correct

If being built as a static it might be worth looking at obtaining some better drawings to find a way of reducing the large area/space around the prop, ali I have done is put in a rudder post,

Superstructure

No real issues other than where the large 8MM holes for portholes which have to be drilled into the planked areas, the wood is very soft/balsa like and tends to rip rather than be allowed to be drilled, so took several redo’s to look presentable,

Fixtures and fittings,

 the cast items were clean of flash and required very little work to remove seam lines, but some items did seam out of scale to the hull

Conclusion

This was from the start going to be a OOB build, no scratch, lighting or special effects, the tyres are the only change from the metal kit ones.

Im mixed on this, the lack of detail, makes her a average static display kit, and as a RC build I think a lot of work would be required to make her work well on the water, but feel she would be quite delicate due to the way the superstructure lifts off to allow access into the hull, even on my desk the railings, forward vents and riggings got in the way and needed repair,

She was on my work bench for a period of six weeks, and reckon I put about 120 hours, from start to finish

With a retail price from Cornwall Model Boats of £269, I think that is extremely good value for money,

Thank you again Occre for the opportunity of myself doing the review, you have given me 120 hours of modelling enjoyment.

Paint

Hull  

Halfords Rattle can red primer and Vallejo red brown surface primer

Halfords rattle grey primer and Halfords Rattle can matt black

Superstructure

As above

Halfords Rattle white primer and  Vajello white primer

Funnel

Rattle cab VW brilliant orange.

Mast

AK 11118 ochre

Rigging various sizes from the Amati range. I found the Occre ones out of scale and very fluffy

Extras

The tyres are from the 1/35 Trumpeter M1070 tank carrier.

sorry about the lack of photos, and words and the general lack of discussions i have with followers, in hindsight i should have thought more about the log, as it was a free review kit, apologies 

i was going to use a Vanguard Models ships boat, but then removed it to keep in the build as a OOB theme, But i did replace the Metal Tyres with those for a 1/35 tank transporter set, i also used my own rigging thread, the kits was to fluffy for my liking

here are a few more photos to take her to the end of the build

still my favourite build on MSW

that is the hull mainly complete, but everyone who knows me, i chop and change, and never start on page one and turn to page two, me im more of page 1, then 27 and back to 13

so whilst the hull was being built up, so was the superstructure, how ever i dont have so many phots of this jn progress

the funnel is flat packed and planked, with two brass panels at the base to create the flared shape

on top of the main superstructure the decking is also planked and painted

so

 sorry about lack of photos this was never going to be a build log

couple photos of the instructions, for bits i missed

wow

will never ever be happy with the shaft/rudder area, as she is designed to be an RC kit, so rightly or wrongly i added a rudder post, the gap looks far to large, between the prop and post nothing i can do about that

deck fittings are generic and oversized, and not many of them

bilge keels and below waterline coats sorted

at this point i still could not get the shaft are right

the deck is planked and painted

messy but fill sand and repeat

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eventually i got the shat entry area looking tidy, and first coat of black on the hull

the Laser cutting is good, with very small tabs to be removed, but right from the start you quickly realise, there are just not enough frames for a vessel this size, it needs at least another 5 frames to allow fairing, and possibly adapting the area around the prop shaft area, as you are pretty well left to sort it out for yourself

planking is shown as laying one plank next to the other, NO TAPERING, and filling with scrap wood, i did it that way, but after building a decent kit like the Vanguard Models Indy, i was never going to be happy with the results

good morning everyone, im back (less boo's from the back of the room please)

loosing my best friend really took it out of me, and i made the decision to just go quiet on the forums and Facebook, although i do miss him so much, life does go on.

Having said that i have still been building, Indy was put to one side and i got the tug out

What ever people feelings are about Occre Kits are, i want to build OOB, no lighting, weathering  etc and see what i could do with one of their kits,

she will be complete within a day or so so this will be a short log, but may be of interest to a couple of people, 

OOB for me also meant i did no historical research for building, and she was done in my paint scheme

1/50 Hercules Tug Boat- Occre - by Kevin - REVIEWS: Model kits - Model Ship World™

above is the link to the kit i reviewed November 2023

welcome @JFM 

hi Jim i just used a gloss varnish on the wood, the spirit based, you could use shellac, the paint work was just rattle cans and then left

this was my attempt

16 minutes ago, allanyed said:

As mentioned above I am pretty sure there are no qualifications to join the NRG.  

 

I am also pretty sure no one is obligated to research a kit before giving a review.  There is nothing wrong with pointing out the things you like about a kit, but by the same token there is nothing wrong with others pointing out mistakes they find in those same kits.. The way I have learned so many things about ships of old are from those that, thankfully, pointed out the mistakes in my own work, and so it should be with the kits.  

Allan

 

 

fully agreed,

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price

pro's

advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL

sails

entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)

cons

no instructions

optional light set is available

Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker

comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

box opening

not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality

NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway

looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion

there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all

no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

not a lot of PE, will please some

we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

and a crew of 7

very little flash but look smaller than 1/64

anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)

whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeed

Taken from the AL website.

HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 

Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).

The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.

From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.

On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.

On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.

It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

another project for my bucket list, Thank you @James H great review

i will tag along, and learn from you