Kevin

sorry to fence sit, i like all the options

I was looking through my last post to see how a warship could be accidental burnt - i still do not know the answer, but here is a little history of her H.M.S. Glasgow and the Incident at Crow Rock HMS Glasgow was launched in 1757 and took part in the American revolutionary War. She is most famous for her involvement against the Continental Navy off Block Island on 6 April 1776. This action was a night time naval encounter with the Continental Navy, which was returning from the Battle of Nassau on its maiden voyage, and HMS Glasgow, at the time serving as a dispatch boat under Captain Howe, successfully evaded capture from a fleet of seven Warships under the command of Esek Hopkins. She did, however, sustain quite a lot of damage in the encounter. -In 1775 the Second Continental Congress had established the Continental Navy and by the February of 1776 the first ships of the new fleet were ready for their maiden voyage. Commodore Esek Hopkins led this fleet of eight ships on an expedition to the Bahamas, where the British were known to have been keeping military supplies. In early March of that year the fleet, which lost one ship on route, landed marines on the island of New Providence and captured Nassau. After loading the ships with the captured military stores, the fleet then sailed north for Block Island. By April 4 the fleet reached the waters off Long Island, and captured HMS Hawk. The next day they captured HMS Bolton. The fleet then moved south hoping to catch further British ships as prizes. On April 6, United States Ship Andrew Doria spotted HMS Glasgow which was carrying important military dispatches. Howe came about to investigate the fleet, and over the next 30 minutes closed to within hailing shot. Esek Hopkins felt there was no immediate threat, so gave no signals to his fleet. Captain Howe first came upon the USS Cabot, whose Captain was John Hopkins the son of Esek. The younger Hopkins, when hailed by Howe for identification, replied with a lie by saying, "Columbus, a 22-gun frigate." An overzealous seamen on his ship then tossed a grenadeonto the deck of HMS Glasgow and the battle began. The Cabot was actually a lightly armed Brig, and she fired one ineffective broadside at Howe's ship. The Glasgow countered with two broadsides wounding John Hopkins, and disabling the ships steering gear. As she drifted away, the USS Alfred came up to engage Glasgow, and the two became fully engaged. A shot from Glasgow early in the action broke the tiller chains of the Alfred and her temporary loss of steering made it difficult for another ship, the USS Andrew Doria, to join the action. Eventually more ships of the fleet did join the action against Glasgow forcing Howe to break off with the engagement. In spite of extensive damage to her sails and rigging, the Glasgow managed to escape towards Newport. After several hours of chase that lased until daylight, Hopkins called off the chase. After repair, the Glasgow continued to serve in the American revolutionary conflict until 1778 when she return home. On route she came into Scilly. On her way out again she struck the Crow near Pendrethen. The incident caused her considerable damage as she lost her forefoot and a large rock became embedded in her hull. However, with her Captain taking a quite a considerable chance, she continued on her journey to Plymouth carrying the rock along with her which helped stop the water from coming in. Perhaps the incident may have been more serious had the rock came out on route to Plymouth but it remained firmly in position. After repair HMS Glasgow returned to the Caribbean in 1779, where after chasing two large Continental frigates she was accidentally burnedin Montego Bay. Captain Horatio Nelson in HMS Badger was on hand to rescue the crew of HMS Glasgow. Career (Great Britain) Name: HMS Glasgow Ordered: 13 April 1756 Builder: John Reed, Hull Laid down: 5 June 1756 Launched: 31 August 1757 Commissioned: March 1757 General characteristics Class & type: 20-gun Sixth rate Tons burthen: 451.3 long tons (458.5 t) Length: 109 ft 4 in (33.3 m) (gundeck) 91 ft 2 1⁄2 in (27.8 m) (keel) Beam: 30 ft 6 in (9.3 m) Depth of hold: 9 ft 7 1⁄2 in (2.9 m) Complement: 160 officers and men Armament: 20 × 9-pounder guns

June 2 1653 First day of Battle of the Gabbard Bank, off the coast of Suffolk. English fleet of 100 ships under Generals at Sea George Monck and Richard Deane and Admirals John Lawson and William Penn beat of 98 Dutch ships under Lieutenant-Admiral Maarten Tromp and Vice-admiral Witte de With. On second day the English were joined by Admiral Robert Blake, but Tromp decided to attack but was routed, the English chasing them until well in the evening. 1676 Battle of Palermo. A French force led by Abraham Duquesne attacked a Spanish force supported by a Dutch maritime expedition force. Largely because the Dutch and Spanish ships were at bay making repairs from an earlier a battle, the French fleet destroyed four Spanish and three Dutch ships with fireships. 1773 George III reviewed the English Fleet at Portsmouth. 1779 HMS Glasgow (20) burnt by accident in Montego Bay, Jamaica 1787 HMS Pelican (10) foundered 1805 HMS Diamond Rock capitulated. Boats of HMS Loire (40), Cptn. Frederick Maitland, cut out privateer feluccaEsperamza from Camarinas Bay. Another privateer was taken but abandoned and 3 merchant vessels were destroyed.

Very nice Jerry - well done

on those things - everything was in short supply - especially fresh water - apart from maybe watching the most essential bits once a week (using cold salt water) we used to stink - brilliant times the showers - which i never saw being used one in 8 years - were just a beer stowage

i did my tiles the Keith Julier way start at the water line lay about 5 tiles and brickwork them down until you come to a pre drawn line where the bottom ones about row 11 down meet the waterline fwd and aft, then from the keel up and the gore line is hidden under the waist of the ship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/403-hms-victory-by-kevin-caldercraftjotika-172/page-2 But lol - this is not the Victory - so ignore my ramble

Good evening everyone Managed another 4 hours on the build today, still working on the stern, stern davits are now in place, slight further forward over the ¼ gallery than one of the photo I have seen, simply made by sandwiching a piece of decking in-between 2x3mm with an end cap and a hole through the side The window sills are looking better, with just a little bit of tidying up to do Another couple of hours and I will have done what I can for now and progress towards the pointy bit at the front, the rudder and gun ports will wait for next time around

Andy as you are away again soon, is there anything you can take with you as part of the hobby.or is life just to busy

those boats are very nice looking

June 1 01 June 1666 First day of The Four Days Battle, off the North Foreland between the English fleet of 56 ships, under George Monck, 1st Duke of Albemarle, and the Dutch fleet of 84 ships, under Lt.-Admiral Michiel de Ruyter. 1676 Danish-Dutch fleet of 25 ships-of-the-line, 10 frigates and some minor ships, under Dutch General Admiral Tromp and Admiral Niels Juel, defeats a Swedish force of 27 ships-of-the-line, 11 frigates and some minor ships, under Admiral Lorentz Creutz,.off Oland, Sweden 1677 The Danish Baltic Squadron of 10 ships-of-the-line and 3 frigates, under Admiral Niels Juel, defeated a Swedish squadron of 7 ships-of-the-line, 2 frigates and 2 armed cutters, under Admiral Sjöblad, off Moen 1794 Glorious First of June. British fleet under Lord Howe defeat French fleet under Louis Thomas Villaret de Joyeuse. 1795 Adam Duncan promoted to full Admiral. 1808 HMS Unite (38), Cptn. Patrick Capmbell, captured Nettuno and Teulie in the Adriatic. 1813 HMS Shannon (38), Cptn. Philip Bowes Vere Broke, captures USS Chesapeake(36) Cptn. James Lawrence, off Boston Harbor 1814 Start of 4 day British operation in the River Patuxent.

i guessed you would be rat faced in a bar most of the time, good to see you back

brilliant work love the stern view

May 31 1803 HMS Resistance (36), Cptn. Hon. Philip Wodehouse, wrecked on Cape St. Vincent 1805 Bombardment of HMS Diamond Rock commenced. 1808 HMS Redwing (18), Thomas Ussher, took two sail at Tarifa. 1809 HMS Topaze (38), Cptn. A. J. Griffiths, took four vessels and destroyed five at St. Maura, Albania. HMS Unique (12) used as a fireship in Guadeloupe.

Sorry Augie Not looked in for a little while, lovely work , well done all the best

Jason - that's beautiful work

Image Details Title: HMS 'Victory', 'Captain', 'Agamemnon', 'Vanguard' & 'Elephant' Artist: Nicholas Pocock Product code: PU5986 Copyright: © National Maritime Museum, Greenwich, London

May 30 1781 HMS Crescent (28), Lt. John Bligh (act.), taken by Gloire (40) and Friponne (36) 1798 HMS Hydra (38), Cptn. Sir Francis Laforey, and consorts destroyed Confiante (36) 1814 US Navy gunboats capture three British boats from HMS Montreal and HMSNiagara on Lake Ontario near Sandy Creek, NY 1696 HMS Lizard (24), Cptn. Joseph Welby, was lost off Toulon

have a good time all the best

May 29 1719 HMS Blandford (20), Cptn. Erasmus Phillips, foundered in the Bay of Biscay with the loss of all on board. 1758 HMS Dorsetshire (70) and HMS Achilles (60), Cptn. Hon. Samuel Barrington, took French Raisonnable (64). 1781 Colonial frigate Alliance (36), Cptn. John Barry, captures HMS Atalanta (14), Cdr. Sampson Edwards, and HMS Trepassy (14), Cdr. James Smyth (Killed in Action), off Nova Scotia. 1794 HMS Carysfort (28), Cptn. Francis Laforey, re-captured HMS Castor (32) off Land's End. 1797 Boats of HMS Lively (20) and HMS Minerve (38), Cptn. George Cockburn, cut outMutine (14) from the roads of Santa Cruz, under command of Thomas Masterman Hardy. 1807 HMS Jackall Gun-boat (14), Lt. Charles Stewart, captured by the French after going ashore near Calais.

there has to be a fine balance between plastic as described above for panelling and some fine detailing, which might be better than white metal, then you go to the other extreme - I wont say Billings - where there is to much and poorly made, - ooops did i say the B word - if so - sorry

you could email them to me(using a private account) -or anyone and ask them to put on for you

very nice jerry, i bought extra plates, - just to be on safe side

robipod, lol - thank you for reminding me that i have not done mine (bow gun ports that is)

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mark as of today i will be following you log, and other dark side players i have made the decision, long time coming that i need to build a vessel (non kit), Victory will be finished 1st, but something like Lumber yard Alfred really does appeal to me, even though - i would have preferred less cannons. im not old,(55 ish) but with possibly another two years to finish the currant build - i will then have the perfect opportunity to do something to be proud off all the best kevin LOL - i am even thinking of packing up playing EVE to fund it - dont tell the wife