kees de mol Posted December 6, 2016 Author #331 Posted December 6, 2016 Kees, Marcus should be able to read Dutch, something in his genes Thanks for mentioning the book. I'll have a look around too, interesting Cheers That would be great. I like the book very mutch because there are a lot of details about the ships. I believe the builders didn't work with plans, just by memory and a craftmens eye. In the book are some withnesreports from a man who observed the building of "bomschuiten" for a while. Some time ago a group started crowdfunding to build a replica of a "Bomschuit" because they had found the original keel and some other parts under a dyke. I believe it is the KW76. Ithe replica is being build in Spakenburg. The keel and parts were displayed last summer in front of the Andreas church in Katwijk. This beautiful church is found on many photo's with Bomschuiten on the beach of Katwijk. The church was used for many years as a wearhouse and saltstorage for the fishingcompanies in Katwijk. (the salt still causes a lot of problems and is very expensive to remove) We (protestant church) raise money all year trough to pay for the restauration ans cleaning of the salt. cog, flying_dutchman2, PeteB and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
amateur Posted December 7, 2016 #332 Posted December 7, 2016 This one, for instance You see the typical design of the bomschuit: it is like a box... They were designed to get ashore at high tide, so that they could be unloaded and serviced at low tide. This because many of the fishing villages at the northsea did not have a harbour (completely impossible to dug a harbour in the flat sandy beaches. Jan Piet, Chasseur, PeteB and 7 others 10 Quote
Chasseur Posted December 7, 2016 #333 Posted December 7, 2016 Kees that is one very cool picture. These vessels look like early day pilot boats. I love the Church in the background it looks like a bit of a fortress. The vessel on the right does the foremast fold back? Jeff Piet 1 Quote A mighty fortress is our God a bulwark never failing!
flying_dutchman2 Posted December 7, 2016 #334 Posted December 7, 2016 Hello Marcus. I bought that model in a secondhand shop for the price of a couple of beers. It's called a Bomschuit and it is scratchbuild (not by me ) but it's not very acurate, more a decorational model. I think the scale is around 1/20. If you are interested there is a very good book about these ships written by E.W. Petrejus, 1954. I have a copy but it is in Dutch. Maybe there is an english translation somewhere. Kind regards, Kees Kees, Thanks. It is the mast in the back that got me confused. I do have several books in pdf form on flat and round boats. I know the name Petrejus and I think I can find something from him on Google. Another book I have 'Vlaamse Visserij en Vissersvaartuigen' book 2, by Gaston Desnerck, 1976, bought it a long time ago in Amsterdam at the book store 'de Slechte'. I paid 30 guilders for it and looked it up recently and it is now 330.00 Euros. I am missing Book 1., but I am not going to pay 330.00 Euros for that one. While I am on the subject there is a freebee floating around from before 1895-1905 called Ship Building from its beginnings by Emile van Konijnenburg, It is in 3 parts and in English. Nice plans, good descriptions and many boats and last but not least several German books on these types of boats. The Germans have written much on this subject. For the none Dutch people here; The Dutch had numerous types of flat and round bottom boats. Every town that has a wharf has a many types of these boats. For pleasure, for freight, passengers, etc. Several years ago I started writing an article on this for the Nautical Journal. It got huge as I was describing every boat possible with no end in sight. So I put it away. I can split it up in sections. Sorry for hijacking the thread......................... back to you.... Kees. Marcus mtaylor, cog, Omega1234 and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
kees de mol Posted December 7, 2016 Author #335 Posted December 7, 2016 The vessel on the right does the foremast fold back? Yes thats because the boats were pulled high on the beach in fall and winter. The boat with all the gear, sails and flags on it is very strange. I think it was on display or something maybe for some important people to show. Normaly they were like the boats with the mast fold back. mtaylor, Chasseur, flying_dutchman2 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
kees de mol Posted December 7, 2016 Author #336 Posted December 7, 2016 Sorry for hijacking the thread......................... back to you.... Kees. Marcus No problem at all. Some hijacks are fun. Thank you Omega1234, flying_dutchman2, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
amateur Posted December 8, 2016 #337 Posted December 8, 2016 Hi Marcus, Some ofthese ships had a second (small) mast set up, like the haringbuis. Mainly to help them keeping position while at work. Notvery common on these ships, though.... Jan cog, flying_dutchman2, Mike Y and 6 others 9 Quote
PeteB Posted January 15, 2017 #338 Posted January 15, 2017 Hi Kees That's going to be a nice contrast you have previewed in the first photo of post #324 of the Wood against the painted Styrene/Steel when you finish up.- great to see you back on deck - Cheers Pete Omega1234, Chasseur, Piet and 1 other 4 Quote
kees de mol Posted January 17, 2017 Author #339 Posted January 17, 2017 Had some work done on the Pelikaan. All the details under and next to the spraydeck, the fish collecting bin, the railing on the spraydeck and added the fishingline guids on the deck. Now I want to finish the inside of the bullwark and then i will add the front piece of the ship to the hull. I have to find a solution for the electric wiring. Kind regards. Kees Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Also bought me some new tools for the heavier jobs. A hangmotor Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr FriedClams, cog, hexnut and 10 others 13 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
popeye the sailor Posted January 17, 2017 #340 Posted January 17, 2017 awesome progress Kees glad to see your back kees de mol, mtaylor, PeteB and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
FriedClams Posted January 19, 2017 #341 Posted January 19, 2017 Hello Kees, I just recently found your build log and have read it from the beginning. Your model is turning out wonderfully and the level of your craftsmanship in styrene is so impressive - some of the best I have seen. Thanks for sharing your techniques and videos - I have learned a great deal. It is logs such as yours that inspire me to do better with my own modeling. I hope your health is improving - keep well. Gary cog, popeye the sailor, Omega1234 and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox
kees de mol Posted January 19, 2017 Author #342 Posted January 19, 2017 Hello Gary, Nice to see that you found my log and I wish you a lot of fun reading my log in the future. I am glad that I can give you inspiration and that i have the chance to contribute to this great shipmodelling forum. Regards, Kees cog, Oystein, FriedClams and 6 others 9 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 25, 2017 #343 Posted January 25, 2017 Kees, The details on this boat of yours are amazing. You're thinking of everything that belongs on this boat. Excellent job. Marcus Omega1234, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
kees de mol Posted January 26, 2017 Author #344 Posted January 26, 2017 Working on the Pelikaan. I started on the bullwarks and realized they are the last structural things I have to build. All the other parts have been build and now is the time to put together everything. Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Yesterday I glued the spraydeck on the hull (and with this the maindeck and the structure under the spraydeck which were attached to the spraydeck) Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr After that I finished the bullwarks and the next thing is to finish (sanding etc) the hull so I can paint them. Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr I also made the metal stands. They are attached to the hull and will be fastened to a wooden plank. It's just the structural part the finishing will follow. The pipes are hollow so I can lead electric wire through them later. Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr Cheers Kees Piet, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 10 others 13 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
cog Posted January 26, 2017 #345 Posted January 26, 2017 Nice work Kees, Will you put a brass tube over those fitted to the model now? jay, Piet, Omega1234 and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
kees de mol Posted January 27, 2017 Author #346 Posted January 27, 2017 Yes indeed. Brass or Aluminium. I will make it look good. Chasseur, popeye the sailor, cog and 6 others 9 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
popeye the sailor Posted January 30, 2017 #347 Posted January 30, 2017 look'in good Kees ..... can't wait to see more mtaylor, Piet, Omega1234 and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
kees de mol Posted February 12, 2017 Author #348 Posted February 12, 2017 No words... just a little vid... Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr This took a lot..... a lot of hours to make. And that times three...... I IIKE IGHTS......... mtaylor, tadheus, Ian B and 9 others 12 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
kees de mol Posted February 12, 2017 Author #349 Posted February 12, 2017 Click on the picture. Does it works? Please let me know Piet and mtaylor 2 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
cog Posted February 12, 2017 #350 Posted February 12, 2017 Private video ... can't see the light ... Piet, FriedClams and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted February 12, 2017 #351 Posted February 12, 2017 No words... just a little vid... Untitled by Model Fishingships, on Flickr This took a lot..... a lot of hours to make. And that times three...... I IIKE IGHTS......... Hi Kees I recall that you were building a model of a trawler, but why did you post a photo of the full-sized superstructure in the photo? Are you trying to trick us into thinking that that's what you built? Ahem...of course you built it and of course that would've taken a heck of a lot of work and no doubt, only you and a few select other modellers would've been able to do it so well. Damn fine job, Kees. It looks so realistic. Amazing. Cheers Patrick KeithAug, mtaylor, PeteB and 5 others 8 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
cog Posted February 12, 2017 #352 Posted February 12, 2017 Kees, Does one need a Flickr account to see the video? mtaylor and Piet 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted February 12, 2017 #353 Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Kees, Does one need a Flickr account to see the video? Hi Carl and Kees Interesting question. I do have an account, but I still wasn't able to access the video. It said that "I do not have access". Cheers Patrick Edited February 12, 2017 by Omega1234 Piet, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
cog Posted February 12, 2017 #354 Posted February 12, 2017 WHat a pitty, we do not have access to his inner sanctum Omega1234, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Omega1234 Posted February 12, 2017 #355 Posted February 12, 2017 WHat a pitty, we do not have access to his inner sanctum It's not a conspiracy is it? Hehe...! mtaylor, Piet and cog 3 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora
popeye the sailor Posted February 12, 2017 #356 Posted February 12, 2017 video or not.........it's an awesome looking structure! very well done! Omega1234, Piet, cog and 1 other 4 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
django56 Posted February 12, 2017 #357 Posted February 12, 2017 amazing job Kees Omega1234, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote
Nirvana Posted February 12, 2017 #358 Posted February 12, 2017 Have a flickr account but the video is only private Omega1234, mtaylor and Piet 3 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
kees de mol Posted February 12, 2017 Author #359 Posted February 12, 2017 (edited) Sorry Guys. Did not realize it was private because pictures never are a problem. Here the link to Youtube. https://youtu.be/4GGlX61Uup8 Edited February 12, 2017 by kees de mol Chasseur, FriedClams, Piet and 4 others 7 Quote Current build: Dutch beamtrawler KW88, Pelikaan 1/75 Completed build: Dutch sidetrawler KW49, Antje 1/75 Completed build: Scottisch 10m trawler 1/25 Want to see some real Kitsch... With a capital K?!! Visit my 'museum' here at MSW My blog:
mtaylor Posted February 12, 2017 #360 Posted February 12, 2017 Lovely work on the lights, Kees. Omega1234, cog, FriedClams and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
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