augie Posted May 23, 2015 Share #481 Posted May 23, 2015 OK, so once you add the training tackle these will be in the running at sea position rather than run out for action? Therefore the gun ports shall be closed? Just trying to get a picture of this. mtaylor, src and cog 3 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share #482 Posted May 23, 2015 Augie, correct. Lashed and running at sea, something different. No gun ports though, well the kit didn't indicate there were to be port covers and I never researched to see if it was correct. Pretty much have built to the instructions, just "upgraded" parts as I went. Sam augie, cog and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 23, 2015 Share #483 Posted May 23, 2015 Looking sweet, Sam. They may not have had lids but bucklers... then again, the ports on the exposed decks wouldn't have needed them.... src 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 23, 2015 Author Share #484 Posted May 23, 2015 Mark, bucklers? Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted May 23, 2015 Share #485 Posted May 23, 2015 Thanks Sam. I just keep on learning new things here. src 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share #486 Posted May 24, 2015 Augie, not sure what I taught you, but your welcome. Sam Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted May 24, 2015 Share #487 Posted May 24, 2015 Mark, bucklers? Sam, Bucklers.... they look like a lid there's no hinges as they are not hung. They get put into the port and secured. My current build has no lids but they used bucklers. Usually any the weather decks didn't have lids as there was no way to keep the water out. src and cog 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted May 24, 2015 Author Share #488 Posted May 24, 2015 Thanks Mark, To Quote Augie, "I just keep learning new things here" Sam augie, mtaylor, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share #489 Posted June 6, 2015 A small update - aren't they all anymore??? I finally got a trundle head I am satisfied with; points centered, no major voids in the joints etc. Below is the progression of parts as I figured out what I wanted it to look like and how to do it as well as a closer shot. The close up shows that I missed slightly on placement, from a foot away its not noticeable though. I need to pick up a felt point for the dremmel and get some more finish rubbed out. I've also finished a rigging couple more carriages. I thought with work slowing down I would have more time to build but it hasn't been the case, all the little things that were put off over the last six months have to be taken care of. Sjors, popeye the sailor, russ and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 6, 2015 Share #490 Posted June 6, 2015 Sam, Definitely some misalignment on that capstan ... It will not turn properly, that's for certain ... those poor Jacks will be bracking their backs ... Could you point out where exactly that faillure in your prowess is, please ... Ah, you thought that what had been put off won't be needing attention ... mistake ... big ... no hughe ... work always gets in the way of leisure relaxation augie and src 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted June 6, 2015 Share #491 Posted June 6, 2015 Nice to see your progress, Sam. src 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share #492 Posted June 7, 2015 (edited) Thanks for the comments and likes everyone - Slog, I haven't seen you around in a while, I hope all is well with you. Augie, baby steps, but I will finish - one day. Carl, you're right, that .00025" overhang has to go man! I think I will throw it in the incinerator and start all over........NO! Sam Edited June 7, 2015 by src Shazmira, augie and cog 3 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted July 18, 2015 Author Share #493 Posted July 18, 2015 Wow, its been over a month already since my last update! Unfortunatly not much to show, All but two of the carriages are lashed, I have a few sets of rope to trim. The last two carriages are the forward chase guns that I plan on lashing sideways to cover up the holes in the deck left when I reinstalled the timberheads in the correct positions. Which leads me to a question, looking at the picture below there are two sets of blocks, one on the bulwarks to the rear of the carraige and one forward. The set forward of the caraige appears esy, it looks to be that it hooks to the eyebolt for the training tackle, but what about the other? Where would that attach? There is nothing indicated on any of the drawings I have seen, is there some advanced Stealth Ringbolt I am not aware of?? I can add a ring (red dot in picture) in and nobody but us will ever know, its not like I am building some historicaly accurate museum piece here but it would be nice to know before I make my decision, thoughts anybody? mtaylor and popeye the sailor 2 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGraham Posted July 18, 2015 Share #494 Posted July 18, 2015 Hey Sam, What I know about stowing cannon you could put in my eye and I'd never feel it. However, to confuse you further, here are some diagrams from Charles G. Davis' "The Built-up Ship Model." The 4 pounders are from a Revolutionary War era craft. The other diagram I'm not sure of the date. Hope this helps. Steve Sjors, popeye the sailor, augie and 3 others 6 Quote completed models: Shenandoah (Corel) waiting on the shelf: La Sirene (Corel) Half Moon (Corel) Puritan (Mamoli) Patsy (derisively): "It's only a model." Arthur: "Sshhh." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share #495 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Steve, Thanks for the drawings, I have saved them for future reference. Wow, 2-1/2 months since my last post!!! Work has got to go. Or I need to win the lottery, one or the other. There hasnt been a lot of free time to build recently but I havent been totally neglecting my Enterprise. For some time I have known that the barrels were just not going to work for me and new scratch built barrels were in order. I just didnt know how i would go about it. In the end I did what I always do and just dove in hoping to not make too many mistakes. I wanted to make 48 staves at 7.5 degrees but I just couldnt make that work so I settled on 24 at 15 degrees (30 degree included angle) after cleaning up the saw kerf with a micro plane I glued them up into a roll about 6" long then chucked them up in my little wood lathe. I turned 4 more or less identical parts and then cut them off the main dowel. After that I had to figure out how to re-chuck each one and get them centered AND not destroy them in the process. We had some 1/2" ID tube at the shop, a length of that worked well to protect the surface from the jaws of the chuck. re centering them was easier than I thought it would be, just took some playing and adjusting. They were never perfect but close enough to cut out the ends for the covers. I hollowed out the ends .060" deep and left about an .030" lip. Next time I will get some Stainless steel tubing that is the right OD and make a hole saw, then turn the waste after. Another tube that sleeves OVER the first will be used to make the covers. That will be much easier than the way I made my lids. File, file and more file until they fit. Live and learn. I tried to make the bands out of black tape but just couldnt get it to stay till the glue set so I hammered some .019" brass wire flat and hard soldered some circles then epoxied them on after blackening. All in all I am very pleased with how they came out 4 more or less identical barrels Need some touch up but I like them My anchors now, THAT was a comedy of errors that worked out in the end. I started out planing on using the kit anchors, they just needed some clean up and paint. One of the rings was just a tad bent/warped so I thought " I'll just tweak it into place......Murphy being my constant companion gleefully rubbed his hands together and said "Watch this!!" Just a little bend....SNAP!!! grrrr! ow well Ill just epoxy it together. Whatever I did it didnt work, the epoxy wouldnt stick well, neither would CA. "I know! Ill soft solder it!!! That will work!" Nope, little blobs of white metal.... "OK Ill scratch one and use the other" While I was trying to copy one by laying it on a brass sheet and tracing it it would move. I tried a small clamp, not tight enough. Grabbed one of my sheet meta clamps, Too Tight!! Numerous fragments! Sigh. No matter what I did I couldnt copy the curve of the kit anchors correctly and consistently. Went looking through "Fully Framed" and came across some drawings of Andmiralty Anchors in 1:48. Since I have no idea what size or shape anchors the Enterprise would have had I went by physical size, the drawing of a 3cwt 2qtr anchor was just a bit larger than the kit anchors so I based mine on those dimensions. Drawing straight lines and angles ended up working for me. I am very pleased with the results. They need some blackening on the banding and touch up on the main parts but otherwise I like them very much. Tonight I will attempt puddening for the rings. White metal is...um...fragile... I drew them the same I swear!!! More better And they match!! That is more like it!! Sam Edited October 8, 2015 by src Sjors, cog, ScottRC and 8 others 11 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted October 8, 2015 Share #496 Posted October 8, 2015 Well done, mate. The 30 degrees was a good call. Anchors and stocks are first rate . src and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share #497 Posted October 8, 2015 Thanks Augie! Even with all the issues with the anchors I enjoyed the process. I am becoming more comfortable working with metal. Shhh!! Don't tell our metal shop foreman where I work, we have an ongoing debate over which is the superior material, wood or metal. Sam augie 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share #498 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Brian,Thank you. It was boxwood from hobby mill. I bought several planks a while back to make my masts out of since mine are warped from poor storage on my part. I just cut strips off at 15 degrees flipped the plank and cut a strip to make knife shaped planks. After cleaning up the saw kerf with a micro plane I glued them up. Other than picking the straightest and cleanest parts there want a whole lot of work in choosing. Jed's JEFFS material was always so nice that there wasn't a whole lot of picking through parts.Sam Edited October 8, 2015 by src mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted October 8, 2015 Share #499 Posted October 8, 2015 Nice work on the barrels and anchors, Sam. Actually.. not "nice" but fantastic. augie and src 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 8, 2015 Share #500 Posted October 8, 2015 Sam, I'll be placing orders soon. Salted beef, and new anchors!!! A splendid job ... Cheers mtaylor and src 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 8, 2015 Author Share #501 Posted October 8, 2015 (edited) Makr, Carl, thank you and thank all of you for the likes also, it is very much appreciated. Carl, SALTED BEEF?!?!?! Those barrels have only the finest Tequilla Anejo and single malt Scotch in them (no Laphroaig though, to me that stuff tastes like medicine. Peated Scotch just doesnt work for me) A note for the future. I forgot to mention one of the errors in the Anchor Trials and Tribulations. If your going to use muratic acid to clean your parts, DONT soft solder them. I figured since the flukes of the anchors would not be under any stress I could cheat and use plummers solder instead of silver solder. It was faster, easier and cleaner. That is untill I plunked them in some dilute Muratic Acid, after 10-15 minutes I cam eback came back and my nicely soldered flukes were resting on the bottom of the dish!!! Thanks Murphy. Sam Edited October 18, 2015 by src mtaylor 1 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 18, 2015 Author Share #502 Posted October 18, 2015 Woo Hoo!! She looks different. The pictures below have the furniture resting in place to check alignment and fit of the brass dowels. Everything but the Main Bits, the chimney and two Haws Holes(?) on either side of the chimney are now glued down. I had to do some work to refit the ladders as they were splayed out due to the deck camber - forgot all about that as I built them. They are better now, still a small degree out of alignment but I can live with it, it's really not noticeable unless you sight down the hull. Now. back to puddening my anchors..... for some reason that is really challenging me. Sam augie, CaptainSteve, Shazmira and 9 others 12 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich.F Posted October 19, 2015 Share #503 Posted October 19, 2015 Hey Sam WOW! Thats Looking Really Good... src and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Rich. Builds in Progress: HMS Victory Completed Builds: Constucto Enterprise Future Builds 2021/2022 USS Constitution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbshan Posted October 19, 2015 Share #504 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Really nice anchors. Puddening, just wrap with one line, then add as much of the fancy stuff as you can on top of it (you'll want to do a stop lashing or wrap near the shank). Nobody's going to be able to count strands. Hawse holes are where the anchor cable comes inboard below the head timbers. Puddening of the anchor ring Hawse holes Edited October 19, 2015 by jbshan popeye the sailor and src 2 Quote Joel Sanborn http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9953-lexington-by-jbshan-dlumberyard-164-from-the-seaways-practicum-by-clay-feldman/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jct Posted October 19, 2015 Share #505 Posted October 19, 2015 nice work Sam shes coming along Quote Thx J In process On Hold US Brig Niagara Model Shipways Pinta ...Shipyard, card build; In the Queue HMS Endeavor...Corel; Completed builds Agilis...Steingraeber, Dual build with Popeye USS Hannah...scratch build to something between 1/72 ish and 1/60 ish scale Corel's...Half Moon; USN Picket Boat #1...Model Shipways; Model shipways...18th Century longboat.. Harriet Lane...Model Shipways Henry J Gasser Keeling-and-Clayton-mustang-funny-car Green Elephant Funny car Curtiss Sparrowhawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share #506 Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) Thank you everybody for the likes and the encouragement. Brian, that day is getting closer and closer. Getting excited as well as nervous since rigging is a whole new world. Rich, thank you.I have some shoes to fill following along in you and Brian's foot steps. J she certainly is, thank you. jbshan, thank you. I thought I had the name wrong. what I was referring to was the two openings just behind the chimney, the instructions refer to them as "Open Chocks" I believe they would be the point that the actual anchor cable enters the hull for stowage. As far as the puddening, what you show and described is pretty much what I am attempting. "Fully Framed indicates the puddening would be 2-2.5"c rope. I have been using a 0.018"d rope from Chuck in a dark brown. What I am finding is I can only do a couple of wraps then I have to secure it with some thinned PVA and let it dry. I am assuming the stop lashing/seizing would be tared also, but I may use a lighter colored thread just to show off my hard work. We shall see. Ok, its turning black outside and the dog wants his walk, I better take care of that before it dumps on us. Sam Edited October 20, 2015 by src CaptainSteve and jct 2 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted October 25, 2015 Share #507 Posted October 25, 2015 Sam, I'm proud of you when I take a look at the last pictures !!!!!! Very, very nice ! Sjors src 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share #508 Posted November 3, 2015 Thanks Sjors. good to hear from you again. So, I have a dilemma. Constructo gave me a bunch of "stanchions" for the netting that I planned on using rather than building my own. I drilled the holes in the cap rails and set the first three in and started playing with string to see what would look ok and realized, @##&^@! the holes in the stanchions are WAY bigger than the rope. They scale out to over 3" and I figure a rope somewhere in the neighborhood of 1"dia would be about right. I tried tying around the stanchions and am not sure about it. I am half toying with filling them in with solid rod but I dont know. I may end up putting it off for a bit and starting my bowsprit. Anyway, enough b!tching, I am open to suggestions. Sam HIPEXEC, mtaylor, mobbsie and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
augie Posted November 3, 2015 Share #509 Posted November 3, 2015 How about filling in the oversized holes with something like JB Weld and then drilling a proper one? You might then want to paint each stanchion. Sjors, mobbsie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
src Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share #510 Posted November 3, 2015 I hadnt thought of JB weld, they need more blackening anyway. I picked up something called Brass Photoetch Burnishing from AK interactive. The LHS said it was a replacement for BLacken it. Youre giving me an idea, maybe I can get some brass tube and solder it in then reblacken. Sam jct, Sjors, cog and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build Constructo Enterprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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