ollagynot Posted September 25, 2015 #1 Posted September 25, 2015 Hello all, I recently purchase a Byrnes table saw and am eager to start a project with it. This will be my first attempt at a scratch build. I have chosen to use maple for the keel and frames. Thanks, Tony Canute, Pete38, UpstateNY and 3 others 6
ollagynot Posted September 25, 2015 Author #2 Posted September 25, 2015 The futtocks for the first frame are cut and assembled. Lots of cleanup sanding needed. Pete38, mtaylor, Gabek and 4 others 7
Pete38 Posted September 25, 2015 #3 Posted September 25, 2015 Welcome, to the build, off to a great start, looking forward to more mtaylor 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
Mike Y Posted September 27, 2015 #4 Posted September 27, 2015 (edited) Good start! I might be mistaken, but hope that "cleanup sanding" is not to remove the paper? Scraping is much faster, and will keep the surface straight, while sandpaper will round it and smoothen the edges . If you are not using it on a flat surface, though. Edited September 27, 2015 by Mike Y Canute and mtaylor 2 Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
ollagynot Posted September 28, 2015 Author #5 Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks, I meant sanding the edges where they were cut out. The paper feels like it will just peel right off, no sanding should be necessary. I used a child's washable glue stick to adhere the paper. My edges are not the best, I have not yet to mastered the band saw. mtaylor, Canute and Mike Y 3
Mike Y Posted September 28, 2015 #6 Posted September 28, 2015 Ah, sorry, understood But that is typically done on the hull, when fairing it. Canute 1 Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
ollagynot Posted October 7, 2015 Author #7 Posted October 7, 2015 I finally finished the last of the frames today, now all nine of them are done! Moving on to cleaning up the notches for the keel and keelson. I am very happy with how they turned out. Most of the joints are pretty tight, only two or three that have a small gap. I am also happy with the wood choice (maple), the frames are surprisingly strong. I will also be looking for jig ideas in the other build logs before I begin assembling everything. Tony noer, Captain Poison, Mike Y and 8 others 11
ollagynot Posted October 16, 2015 Author #8 Posted October 16, 2015 Been working a little each day this week on the assembly. I have been taking my time and so far everything is going well. Tony GuntherMT, mtaylor, Canute and 6 others 9
ollagynot Posted October 19, 2015 Author #9 Posted October 19, 2015 I have completed assembly and dry fit the keelson, a little fairing to be done. I am also looking into some different wood for the planking. I do not see pillars in the cross section plans, but I see pillars of varying numbers on other builds? I am curious where other builders got their ideas. Any additional info on the pillars, spacing/design would be appreciated. I would like to mill holes for them before installing the keelson. Thanks, Tony mtaylor, dvm27, rafine and 9 others 12
ziled68 Posted October 19, 2015 #10 Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Hey Tony, I'm glad that you've been busy with this little beauty. I've enjoyed working on this cross section and I hope that you'll enjoy it too. Attached you will see one of the Triton drawings which you'll be able to find on the full build section of downloads. Take your time and review everything before choosing what you want to do on your build. I look forward to seeing more progress on your build, Ray. MidshipCrossSection@48-1.pdf Edited October 19, 2015 by ziled68 Canute 1 Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ollagynot Posted October 19, 2015 Author #11 Posted October 19, 2015 Ray, Thanks for the reply and file. I thought I looked at everything in the full build download area too, but somehow I missed that. Thanks, Tony Canute and mtaylor 2
ziled68 Posted October 20, 2015 #12 Posted October 20, 2015 Hey Tony, No worries Buddy. The download area of the Triton can be intimidating at first and some items can be overlooked. Hang in there and keep modeling away. You're doing a great job, Ray. Raymond Current Build: USF Essex Completed Builds: 1745 Mediator Sloop 1:147 scale New Bedford Whaleboat H.M.S. Triton cross-section Vietnamese_Junk
ollagynot Posted November 1, 2015 Author #13 Posted November 1, 2015 Started Planking Today, decided on walnut for the bottom planking and ebony for the wales. Tony GuntherMT, druxey, cristikc and 7 others 10
ollagynot Posted November 7, 2015 Author #14 Posted November 7, 2015 Made some progress on the planking the past few days. Tony UpstateNY, druxey, mtaylor and 7 others 10
ollagynot Posted November 8, 2015 Author #15 Posted November 8, 2015 The outboard planking is now complete from the wales down, and the inboard planking is complete from the lower deck clamps down. I have chosen to leak a portion un-planked to expose the frames. Next I will be the treenails. I had cut the lower deck beams some time ago, I have them just "dry fit" in their spot in that last photo. Thanks for all the likes so far! Tony dgbot, druxey, mtaylor and 6 others 9
Pete38 Posted November 8, 2015 #16 Posted November 8, 2015 Moving right along, what do you plan on using for the treenails? Canute 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
ollagynot Posted November 8, 2015 Author #17 Posted November 8, 2015 I am leaning towards bamboo. I have a bag bamboo skewers tucked away and they seem to be a popular choice among others. Canute and Pete38 2
dgbot Posted November 8, 2015 #18 Posted November 8, 2015 You are coming along fine Tony. Using Maple for your frames was a smart move. A bit of advice for your next model. When gluing futocks together they were connected with a shaped piece called a chock. This adds more strength to the joint. You are doing a great job. David B Canute 1 Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
ollagynot Posted November 8, 2015 Author #19 Posted November 8, 2015 David, I thought about putting chocks in but decided against it. Getting all the joints tight on the chocks was a little intimidating at the time. My next full frame model will include them! Thanks, Tony Canute, dgbot and Pete38 3
ollagynot Posted November 10, 2015 Author #20 Posted November 10, 2015 Completed one side of the inboard treenails. #75 drill bit for the holes, then bamboo drawn down until it was a nice snug fit. Pete38, rafine, Mike Y and 9 others 12
ollagynot Posted November 11, 2015 Author #21 Posted November 11, 2015 Taking a break from treenails to do a little work on the lower deck. Used the mill for the notches in the deck beams and the table saw for the carlings. Thanks for all the likes, Tony dgbot, GuntherMT, cristikc and 4 others 7
Pete38 Posted November 11, 2015 #22 Posted November 11, 2015 Very nice work, Did you make those clamps yourself? mtaylor 1 Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
ollagynot Posted November 11, 2015 Author #23 Posted November 11, 2015 Yes, I got the plans for them out of the "The Naiad Frigate" by Edward Tosti. The clamps have proven very useful! Tony mtaylor and Canute 2
ollagynot Posted November 14, 2015 Author #24 Posted November 14, 2015 Finished treenails on the interior. I like the bamboo in the maple but the bamboo did not show up like I wanted in the walnut so I chose to fill the holes with dark walnut putty instead and am very pleased with the turnout. I went over the inside with some wipe on poly. I also made and installed the limber boards. I chose to make them out of cherry, I wanted them to stand out from the other wood on the interior. Thanks, Tony yvesvidal, rafine, dgbot and 8 others 11
ollagynot Posted November 20, 2015 Author #25 Posted November 20, 2015 Small update, I have been busy at work and have not had much time to work on the project this week. I did complete the treenails on the hull planking. A few coats of wipe on poly and I am happy with the results. I also managed to finish cutting some more carlings for the lower deck. I have also decided to add a hatch to the lower deck which is not in the cross section plans, there is a square hole that looks like a perfect spot for one. I have an X on it in the picture below. Upon looking at the plans in the full build downloads (TritonInboardWorks@48-1.pdf), it looks like there is a hatch at this location, but I could be wrong. Thanks, Tony mtaylor, Canute, Mike Y and 5 others 8
Mike Y Posted November 21, 2015 #26 Posted November 21, 2015 Very accurate! Interesting "weathered" look of the hull, you clearly have a good idea about the wood you want to use mtaylor and Canute 2 Current build: Beavers Prize - POF 1:48 (Hahn style) Side builds: Schooner Polotsk by Master Korabel 18th Century Longboat by MS Finished: 21ft English Pinnace by MS
ollagynot Posted December 7, 2015 Author #27 Posted December 7, 2015 I have completed most of the lower deck and installed it last night. Next I will be working on making the hanging knees and the hatchway / grating. I have also milled all the planking for the lower deck using maple. I will be looking for some ideas on deck caulking, I would like to try black or dark brown construction paper but am open to suggestions. Thanks for all the likes and comments so far, Tony yvesvidal, shihawk, joske and 10 others 13
mtaylor Posted December 7, 2015 #28 Posted December 7, 2015 Tony, Caulking is really a question you'll have to answer. Do some test planks using scrap (and off ship) and see what you like best. Canute 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
cwboland Posted December 7, 2015 #29 Posted December 7, 2015 Tony, I think construction paper may be too thick for the scale. You could try a piece of folded copy paper. It may look better. Certainly Mark's suggestion is the best way to test tho mtaylor and Canute 2 Carl Completed builds: AL Bluenose II 1:75 Gallery Amati Hannah SIB 1:300 Gallery Current Build: Bluenose II - SIB - unknown scale
GuntherMT Posted December 7, 2015 #30 Posted December 7, 2015 I made about 10 or 12 small 'test' decking sections for my AVS, and tried various methods of both caulking, and treenails, and selected the ones that I like the most (after sanding and adding the finish - wipe-on Poly in my case). I tried using black tissue paper as found in this excellent post by Nigel Brooks - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/7445-plank-caulking-using-tissue-paper-tutorial-by-nigel-brook/ At the end of the testing, even under close inspection, I felt like I couldn't see any real advantage to using the tissue paper caulk vs. just using a #3B pencil on the edges of the planking, and the pencil method is so very much easier! I imagine that depending on the scale and type of wood used, etc., the paper system could be a stand out winner in some scenarios. mtaylor and Canute 2 Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
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