HMS Thorn by Kevin Kenny - 1:48 scale - Swan-class - David Antscherl practium

[Kevin Kenny]

This would be my first choice.

[stuglo]

thank you

[dvm27]

Have fun with those frieze paintings Kevin. Just remember, if you're not happy with them you can always paint them onto the paper patterns off the model and glue them in place. This is consistent with contemporary practice and I believe easier to execute.

[Thukydides]

On 7/27/2023 at 6:01 PM, druxey said:

For painting frieze details you need to invest in top quality sable brushes. Try Winsor and Newton Series 9 or Rosemary & Co. Expensive? Yes, but properly cared for they will 'point' beautifully and last a lifetime.

I am also in favour of sable brushes. I use either W&N series 7 (very expensive) or rafael 8404 (about half the price pretty much just as good). Make sure if you invest in some brush soap. A tub like this will last you many years. If you are going to buy expensive brushes make sure you take care of them. There are lots of videos on youtube to help.

 

6 hours ago, Kevin Kenny said:

000 paint brush

I would actually recommend a size slightly larger than 000, what matters is the point and since you don’t have to worry about getting the brush into a tight space, a larger one will hold more paint and not dry out as quickly. That being said try a few sizes and see what works best for you.

 

Acrylic paint is somewhat transparent so when painting a very transparent colour (such as yellow) over a dark colour such as blue you need to build up the layers. Try painting with a brown colour first and then building up to brighter yellows.

 

Good luck

[stuglo]

From time to time you show some new tools that you acquired when visiting NYC. As some of my family will be visiting there next month, could you suggest some useful stores to explore so that I can choose my presents. Thanks.

[Kevin Kenny]

The reason i get so many nice tools from new york is that one of my daughter lives there and i send all my on line purchase tools to her apartment. Tools for woodworking. I’ve actually only found two great physical stores to visit. The first is  “tools for woodworking “ . Its located in a bit of a grubby area so don't take your wife as i did. 112 26th Street, Brooklyn, NY 11232. They also have a web site toolsforwoodworking.com so you can see what they have. The other is. jak Jewelry tools 37 west 46th street in Manhattan. You have to walk up a number of stairs and there is lots of security all around the place . I guess they must make jewelry around the area. Again they have a web site jakjewelrytools.com. My usual on line store is Lee Valley which has some wonderful miniature tools that i have shipped to her home. 

[allanyed]

On 7/29/2023 at 8:01 PM, dvm27 said:

This is consistent with contemporary practice and I believe easier to execute.

While painting on paper has been my go to, that is really an interesting tidbit Greg.   Practically speaking I find it far easier to do, and I like it even better knowing it had been done on the beautiful models we see at Preble, RMG, et al.   To both you and Druxey, do you have any thoughts based on your experience as to which paper you like to use best?   I have gone to using silk span rather than stiffer paper but it is just a matter of my own preference with no scientific reasoning behind it.

Thanks

Allan

[stuglo]

2 hours ago, Kevin Kenny said:

The reason i get so many nice tools from new york is that one of my daughter lives there and i send all my on line purchase tools to her apartment. Tools for woodworking. I’ve actually only found two great physical stores to visit. The first is  “tools for woodworking “ . Its located in a bit of a grubby area so don't take your wife as i did. 112 26th Street, Brooklyn, NY 11232. They also have a web site toolsforwoodworking.com so you can see what they have. The other is. jak Jewelry tools 37 west 46th street in Manhattan. You have to walk up a number of stairs and there is lots of security all around the place . I guess they must make jewelry around the area. Again they have a web site jakjewelrytools.com. My usual on line store is Lee Valley which has some wonderful miniature tools that i have shipped to her home. 

Thank you again

[Kevin Kenny]

Sorry for the miss spelling Zak  Jewelry tools zakjewelerytools.com

[Kevin Kenny]

Just got a notice from Lee Valley . I paid $36 for these a few months ago from Zak Jewlers. 

[Kevin Kenny]

[Kevin Kenny]

[bruce d]

Nice!

[druxey]

Ideally acid-free rag paper would be the best option for frieze work. On old museum models you can see the 'laid' paper lines through the paint. Now, this may sound heretical, but I use regular 20lb paper. It is stretched like watercolor paper prior to painting using acrylics. As the front of the paper is sealed by paint and the back adhered with PVA, it is sealed from the atmosphere and is not likely to deteriorate. However, I'l let you know in 200 years.

[Kevin Kenny]

The journey

https://youtube.com/watch?v=I6Z8lJQRcOM&feature=shareb

[bruce d]

Kevin, I already watched it online. You have raised the bar.

[stuglo]

8 hours ago, bruce d said:

Kevin, I already watched it online. You have raised the bar.

I personally can't and avoid painting models. If I could approach the skill of Kevin, I might change my mind.  

[yvesvidal]

Kevin, you did a fantastic job with the freeze. Congratulations.

I also like the fact that you used a deeper blue (possibly Outremer...) for your base color. I did the same with my Bellona and I really like the strong contrast it offers. It feels more powerful and more in line with a fully armed vessel, than the pale and washed blue we see on other models. Just my two cents....

 

Yves

Edited August 7, 2023 by yvesvidal

[Kevin Kenny]

Yves i used Prussian blue which was recommended in the book.

[Kevin Kenny]

Preparing for the painting of the scrolls on the starboard side. Laying a good foundation.

[Kevin Kenny]

[Kevin Kenny]

[dvm27]

Well done Kevin! The frieze and red color really brings the model to life. Will you be leaving the moldings natural or faux gilding them?

[hdrinker]

Kevin, my wife, who is an artist, and I watched your frieze video and were blown away. You’ve inspired me once again to tackle a part of this build I thought was way beyond my skill level.

Henry

[Kevin Kenny]

Greg

at this point was planning to leave them natural

[Kevin Kenny]

Adding the pencil lines to the starboard side of the model.

[Kevin Kenny]

I just finished putting on the scrolls with the acrylic ink.  Once that dries i will apply another layer this time with some of the tube acrylic to thicken up the paint. This will be followed by the addition of the burnt sienna, then the highlights,  And finally touching up with the Prussian blue and cleaning up all the lines.

[tlevine]

Great work so far.  I agree with Greg.  That red really makes the frieze pop.

[Kevin Kenny]

[Kevin Kenny]

Had some guest over so had to put on some of the cloths.