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Not sure what the protocol is here for reposting a pre crash build log started in Apr 11. post a few to  keep things simple  I will go with a quick time line getting  up to my current stagepost-2846-0-69856300-1364043092.jpgpost-2846-0-55211600-1364043498.jpgpost-2846-0-11211100-1364043538.jpgpost-2846-0-25059900-1364043567.jpgpost-2846-0-86274900-1364043723.jpg

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Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Last few pics .  just finishing up  the long boat. Will post soon.  As you can see I like to follow my own path when building. Preferring to just see where it leads me.  I tossed all the precast parts and attempted to scratch build. Not great but had a good time working my way thru it.   After looking at allot of the great work in the build logs ,  my Rattlesnake must  look pretty rough around the edges..But a hobby is a hobby not a profession.post-2846-0-94240000-1364044700.jpgpost-2846-0-08261200-1364044720.jpgpost-2846-0-67638300-1364044736.jpgpost-2846-0-31492000-1364044863_thumb.jpg

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Hi Mog -- looks good, and I agree, a Hobby is a Hobby, and if it ain't fun it ain't a Hobby.

 

What kind of wood are you using?  The hull looks like walnut.

 

Cheers,

 

Martin

Current Build:  HMS FLY 1776

 

Previous Builds:  Rattlesnake 1781

                        Prince de Neufchatel

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Below the whale Very thin walnut strips stained with cedar, a coat of sanding seal then rubbed stained several more times,, I found the  second satining over the seal not only fills some flaws, but gives them  style    the top planking is maple with a thinned oak, teak stain mix, allot of trial and error but I like the result.

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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  • 3 weeks later...

Longboat, doubled hull planking, using walnut and maple added coverings to the bow and stern and reshaped the rudder. tried to keep the hull consistent with overall style of the ship

First attempt a carving the cheeks and lower rails, getting there with many thanks from Chuck and Martin W.

 

 

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Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Nice work on the ship's boat, Mog.  The details you've added are great.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
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 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans                             Triton Cross-Section   

                                                                                                                       USS Constellaton (kit bashed to 1854 Sloop of War  _(Gallery) Build Log

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CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Ahoy Mog :D

 

I am glad to see your log is back and you are moving right along.

 

If I read your post correctly, you did a second layer of planking. If I am correct, could you share how this went on the MS kit, any issues. It is mentioned in the instuctions but only lightly. I have this on the back burner for my build.  

 

I really like how you did the gunports. I also think your take on the stern carving shows quite well "more is not always better". I think I could go on and on; so I will just politely say "I really like what you have going on here". I would also like to second Mark and Martin's comments regarding the ship's boat.

 

Looking forward to seeing more :)

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 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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 JP, Thanks for the words,  really to kind, as I have said several times on the site, when your a very simple builder of average skill it’s easy to like your own work, I’ve see the other RS build Logs, very good work  don’t think I will be at level for a long time. With that said on to the planking , again following the Mastini style I double plank every thing the hull, the deck,. I just like the way it adds to the look. On the MS kit I was not happy with the wood supplied for planking not if you were only going to single plank,  it was ok for the first layer, know this is just me , others might say its just fine, but the hull main ship or long boat is the whole show  , gives that it’s my boat look if you know what I  mean. Sorry to much ramble the long boat I used the laser cut frames  provided as a template to get the basic shape then allot of sanding getting it down very thin to form the right lines,. Then planked around the frame again keeping the shape more sanding until the first planks are thinned. after that I planked normally using very thin walnut strips, using the glue, heat pressing method. The key was getting the right lines on the fist shape Allot of work but I used it as a learning tool to help me better understand proper shaping of the bow and stern turns, something I need work on when dong main hulls.

A little long winded but it happens when talking builds.                                                           

MOG

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Ahoy Mog

 

Thanks for the tip on the long boat. I am going to borrow that. I will post the results in my log. As for the comments, I meant them.

 

 

 

 

My plan is to see how far I can push the basswood and if it goes off the cliff, fall back and double plank.

 

 

 

Fun comes in many flavors

 

 

 

 

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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JP, sounds good about the long boat , I really enjoyed doing it, it was like a mini break away from the main ship. look forward to seeing it.  also good luck with the basswood plan, I found it worked better when I really gave it a good soaking before bending, the good thing is if you don’t like the look you can double plank.

Cheers  MOG  

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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First my thanks to Martin and Chuck for all the research information.   As this was my   first attempt at building head rails , it was a slow trial and error process.   I’m learning that  scratch building  is allot of stop , start, head  scratching and much time staring at piles of wood  trying to find that right piece .   With 1:64 scale there is not allot of room in the bow area,   so bending and fitting was different to put it mildly.      I tried to keep the look consistent with the overall build, while  sticking to a very simple, plain building method.   I have not learned to carve the fancy stuff yet.  However overall  I’m pretty pleased with the outcome.  The only thing I might redo is the figure head  I shaped it  using sandpaper from a solid block,   will have to take another look at how it fits in.post-2846-0-80383800-1370293334.jpgpost-2846-0-41615600-1370293362_thumb.jpgpost-2846-0-68432200-1370293382.jpgpost-2846-0-39112600-1370293401.jpgpost-2846-0-03938900-1370293417.jpg

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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  • 4 months later...

Took several months off, to work on other projects

Completed deadeyes. Channels, and simple wire chain plates with strops. 

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Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Ahoy Mog :D

 

Good to see you back in the shipyard

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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Progress to date   Completed cutting and installing forecastle rail with pins .cats head with anchor block, and mounted hull to the stand ,  However have not rigged the longboat yet, will do so  at a later date.

I think I’m now ready to set the hull aside and start mast building, anyway Unless I have missed something.?

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Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Mog

I really like the "feel" of your build. It reminds me very much of the ships you see in many stately homes here in Scotland - an ancient and solid feel. I don't know if that was your intention but I really like it.

Cheers
Craig 

Current Build

HMS Indefatigable 

Erycina - Vanguard Models

Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
 

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Ahoy Mog :D

 

It really does have a great "look"

 

Beautiful job.

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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Thanks  JPett and Craigie65,  Your right like the old style solid look of a ship, for me is all about the feel,  or presence  the ship makes. Plus I do spend allot of time in Scotland, guess some it has rubbed off

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Glad to hear it. :D

 

I am about to spend a fair bit of time in London over the next 5 weeks. I wonder what will rub off on me? Gin probably

Cheers
Craig 

Current Build

HMS Indefatigable 

Erycina - Vanguard Models

Finished: HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft, HMS Pegasus - Victory models, Nisha - Vanguard Models
 

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  • 3 months later...

First stages of the main mast Trestle, cross trees , cleats and main top platform , will have to do  some filing and sanding to make space for the shrouds,  allot of blocks and rigging have to fit into this small space,  will set up all blocks ect.. before attaching to the mast.

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Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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  • 2 months later...

Mog the ship looks great! I really love the colors you chose, it does give it an older look! Will be following this build closely as well.

Also, where did you get your keel clamp from? I've got a handmade one that's not so hot...

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After a lengthy recovery from surgery, I’m about ready to return to the shipyard,  really looking  forward getting restarted.  As always I will be looking to the members for advise as I shake off some rust.   MOG

 

Mike the keel clamp is from model shipways , picked it up several years back it works well in the early stages,  before to ship gets  to heavy  but when the hull planking starts to take shape I move to a shop made cradle.  For better support

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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  • 3 months later...

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Injury recovery took a minor setback 3 extra months away from the build, gladly was able to spend some time at the workbench today, nothing big added deadeyes to the topmast platform, allot of rust to shake off, but glad to be back in the boatyard. Photography is a bit rusty also. 

Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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Ahoy Mog :D

 

Welcome back to the shipyard 

 

Here's to being on the driving end of the scalpel  

 

:cheers:

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

Sorted out the correct placement of the blocks on the maintop platform,, a small task, But my thanks to all who helped decipher the different RS plans that are floating around.  Know that I have started again, and being able to stay longer at the bench  I hope to make some steady progress

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Current Build:   Not a ship 

           

 

Completed Builds:   Mississippi River Boat OcCre 1:80

                                Bluenose, Model Shipways 1:48

                                Rattlesnake, Model Shipways 1:64

                                     Dumas # 1233  PT Boat,  Wood, 1:30 

                                 1914-1918 US Army Mule drawn Ambulance 1:16 

 

 

 

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