BANYAN Posted February 21, 2013 #31 Posted February 21, 2013 Hi Augie, and why not - it makes "cents" to me - sorry mate, couldn't help it. John, many thanks. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #32 Posted February 21, 2013 Well, perhaps I'm mistaken, so I've sorted out a selection of files and will post them in the following few posts. Again, if anyone has any questions on what the heck I was doing up to now, please don't hesitate to ask. John Blue Ensign and JerryGreening 2 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #33 Posted February 21, 2013 More photos. Jason, Mirabell61 and Blue Ensign 3 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #34 Posted February 21, 2013 More photos. Blue Ensign and Jason 2 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #35 Posted February 21, 2013 Still more photos. Blue Ensign 1 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #36 Posted February 21, 2013 And more! Jason and Blue Ensign 2 Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 21, 2013 Author #37 Posted February 21, 2013 And the final set. Blue Ensign, Dan Vadas and Jason 3 Quote
cog Posted February 21, 2013 #38 Posted February 21, 2013 For someone whom lost his images ... you are doing rather well. It seems you had to rebuild her from the start to get these on screen It would really have been a loss if this build log would not have reappeared Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
gjdale Posted February 21, 2013 #40 Posted February 21, 2013 Now that's better John! it seems that Stag is properly home now. Thanks for taking the trouble to re-post your wonderful work - there are many of us who admire and learn from it. Cheers, Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
augie Posted February 21, 2013 #41 Posted February 21, 2013 Thank you, John. It just feels better to know she's here. Exquisite. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
popeye the sailor Posted February 21, 2013 #42 Posted February 21, 2013 it is good John, that you put the pictures back up.......no matter the order. It was the content of this build, that made her so special. now there will be no more questions, as to how she became so beautiful.......superb work, my friend! Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Jim Lad Posted February 22, 2013 Author #43 Posted February 22, 2013 Thank you, gentlemen! John Quote
dnputnam Posted February 22, 2013 #44 Posted February 22, 2013 Hi John, Great build. I have been one of those who watch from outside of the ring. I have question as to the Stag. She was a Cutter by build and appears to have a clinkered hull. In my observations Sloops are similar in nature and build to a cutter. a difference I am seeing is the difference between the two the texture of the hull Cutter being a clinker planked and sloop being smooth planked. Is this a fair observation and does it hold true? Dale Quote
Jim Lad Posted February 22, 2013 Author #45 Posted February 22, 2013 Dale, The Stag is actually carvel built. Although a lot of early cutters were clinker hulled, the plans for the Stag show her very clearly as being carvel. In theory, the difference between a cutter and a sloop (bearing in mind that in the 18th century a sloop could also be a small three masted ship) was that the cutter had a running bowsprit while the sloop had a fixed bowsprit, however in practice the terms seem to have been used rather loosely. Falconer (Marine Dictionary 1780) lists a cutter as a sloop rigged vessel used in the south of England by smugglers and by the customs service. John augie 1 Quote
dnputnam Posted February 23, 2013 #46 Posted February 23, 2013 Thanks John That does make a little more sense. I think I now have it. It was not the cut of her build the determinded her Identity but the way she was rigged. Again Thanks, Stag really does look the part. Dale Quote
captainbob Posted February 23, 2013 #47 Posted February 23, 2013 Thanks for the pictures,John. Now we are back up to speed and waiting for the new work. Bob Quote Every build is a learning experience. Current build: SS_ Mariefred Completed builds: US Coast Guard Pequot Friendship-sloop, Schooner Lettie-G.-Howard, Spray, Grand-Banks-dory, a gaff rigged yawl, HOGA (YT-146), Int'l Dragon Class II, Two Edwardian Launches In the Gallery: Catboat, International-Dragon-Class, Spray
tkay11 Posted February 23, 2013 #48 Posted February 23, 2013 Just adding to the chorus. I'm delighted you could re-post as yours is a build I was following avidly. Tony Quote === First build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne 1763 FINISHED 2nd build: Triton cross-section COMPLETED 3rd build: La Chaloupe Armée / 42ft Armed Longboat of 1834 by tkay11 – scale 1:36, plans by M. Delacroix COMPLETED 4th build: Allège d’Arles 1833 (Ancre) POB by tkay11 – scale 1:100, plans by F. Fissore COMPLETED Working on La Jacinthe 1:96 POB (ANCRE publications)
Jim Lad Posted February 23, 2013 Author #49 Posted February 23, 2013 Thanks folks. If we don't all get washed away in this latest East Coast rain depression, I'll try and get back to work! John Quote
popeye the sailor Posted February 25, 2013 #50 Posted February 25, 2013 wonderful work John......I look forward in seeing more progress. Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch
Jim Lad Posted February 25, 2013 Author #51 Posted February 25, 2013 Cheers, Popeye. I promise I'll check my camera batteries before going to the museum next time! John popeye the sailor 1 Quote
fnkershner Posted February 25, 2013 #52 Posted February 25, 2013 John - I must confess, I had not seen this log prior to the MSW upgrade. and now I wish that wasn't so. I noticed that you and I are both building ship that are in approx. the same decade. Can you share with me the plans for your Windlass? Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Jim Lad Posted February 25, 2013 Author #53 Posted February 25, 2013 Floyd, the Stag's windlass design is a little unusual, but here are a couple of crops from the original plan. John fnkershner 1 Quote
fnkershner Posted February 26, 2013 #54 Posted February 26, 2013 Great I think I can use these. Can I ask how did you make the drum and the gears? Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Elia Posted February 26, 2013 #55 Posted February 26, 2013 John, So nice! Thanks for adding those back in. Elia Quote Elia Rose Valley, PA Arethusa: 1907 Gloucester Knockabout
druxey Posted February 26, 2013 #56 Posted February 26, 2013 That's an interesting degree of detail shown on your draught, Jim. Anchor chain, rather than cable? Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
fnkershner Posted February 26, 2013 #57 Posted February 26, 2013 You have a good point - Would chain be proper for a for a ship of this period? Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Jim Lad Posted February 26, 2013 Author #58 Posted February 26, 2013 Elia - thanks for your support, mate! Druxey - the plans were taken off by the Royal Navy in 1839 and I think are the most detailed I have ever seen. As far as I'm aware, chain cables were first used in 1808 and Augustus Earle's painting 'View of the Midshipmen's quarters on biard a ship of war 1820' shows a chain cable. Floyd - See comment above re chain cables. I'm modelling Stag in mid career (hence 6 guns - she started life with either 2 or 4) so chain is, I think appropriate. The windlass barrels and drum ends were rounded by hand (square; taper; eight sided; round) and the 'waisting' put in with a half round file. The gears are discs of wood with the gears filed in. John Quote
sonicmcdude Posted February 26, 2013 #59 Posted February 26, 2013 Good to see Your build back! Thank You for sharing! Quote Greetings, Sinan Build log:TRITON POB 1:72
Jim Lad Posted February 26, 2013 Author #60 Posted February 26, 2013 Thanks for the support, Sinan! John Quote
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