Robin Lous Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share #331 Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Thanks a lot gents! As you can see, I still have to do the clewlines (the ones on the edge of the sail). The brass eyes for them on the yard are already there, but I'm unsure about loops on the sail for them. Didn't spot any on the Olkas photo's. I think I do just one loop in the middle, so the line won't wander off that much. What shall I do? A furled sail or a deployed sail? Historical....sail + oars are a no no. the Greek didn't use both together I planned to do a furled sail, because of that, but with the added details a deployed sail can look nice. I don't know what to do now! Edited December 3, 2016 by Robin Lous Old Collingwood, EJ_L, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted December 3, 2016 Share #332 Posted December 3, 2016 With all the detail you are putting into the sail, having it deployed may be the way to go. On the other hand, it is not uncommon for us model ship builders to put in lots of details in places that will never be seen... Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Robin Lous and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted December 3, 2016 Share #333 Posted December 3, 2016 I'm on the same page as E.J.. I guess it may come down to what details do you want to show off more, the sails or the deck and rigging. I hope this helps Old Collingwood, mtaylor, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 3, 2016 Share #334 Posted December 3, 2016 I would go with the sail raised and tied as that way you can show off the ropes and gear better not to mention the ours OC. Robin Lous, EJ_L, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share #335 Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Good point Don and OC! With the sail furled, the rigging, deck and general appearance of the ship will be more visible. Together with the historical sail/oar "issue"....I guess I better stick to my plan. EJ....I come from planet Plastic and I'm used to do stuff never to be seen again. Something the Admiral loves to point out. Edited December 3, 2016 by Robin Lous mtaylor, EJ_L, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted December 3, 2016 Share #336 Posted December 3, 2016 Good point Don and OC! With the sail ruffled, the rigging, deck and general appearance of the ship will be more visible. Together with the historical sail/oar "issue"....I guess I better stick to my plan. EJ....I come from planet Plastic and I'm used to do stuff never to be seen again. Something the Admiral loves to point out. Me too i once built that Fab plastic sub with all the intside details, that after building and painting inside and out - was glued shut never to see the inside again. OC. Robin Lous, EJ_L, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDW Posted December 3, 2016 Share #337 Posted December 3, 2016 But hey, if you take your model/s to a contest, you can be sure some judge/s will be there with a flashlight looking inside every possible opening to see whether you finished everything inside or not. Been there and done that many times in the past. cobra1951, EJ_L, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted December 3, 2016 Share #338 Posted December 3, 2016 It's been a while since I checked your build, and I can only say how impressed I am with what you've achieved. I have to make shields as well for my dromon and so far I haven't found a satisfactory way to do it. Maybe I can emulate your method. Can you provide some more detail on how you went about it? Steven cobra1951 and mtaylor 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share #339 Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) Hi Steven, Sure...I used 0,15 mm thick brass sheet (Albion Alloys). To shape the bowl I drilled a 1 cm hole in a scrap piece of 2mm thick plywood. Lay an oversized piece of brass sheet on it and pressed the bowl with a round tipped hammer. I didn't hammer...just pushed and turned it around until I had a nice bowl in the sheet. Pushed the edge next to the bowl flat...think I used therear end of an Xacto handle for that...not sure. Cut out the shield with scissors and filed the edge until I was happy with the result. A trident decal, painted the edge black, gloss varnish. Since the brass sheet is very thin, it's easy to shape. Hope this helps. Or...your build is 1:50 scale, that's very close to 28mm wargaming scale. Take a look at this... http://www.victrixlimited.com/collections/greek-ancients/products/greek-unarmoured-hoplites-and-archers Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous zoly99sask, Old Collingwood, Roger Pellett and 7 others 10 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted December 3, 2016 Share #340 Posted December 3, 2016 My opinion for what it is worth is to go with the furled sail idea. The occupants might only just have decided to 'ship' the oars. mtaylor, Robin Lous, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share #341 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) A bit quiet on the bireme front at the moment. December is a busy month for me. Not much shipyard time...and when I have time, I'm often too tired to do anything. For a while I thought I was able to finish this build before the end of the year, but I'm afraid it will take me about 2 more months. I more or less finished the yard, sail and most lines involved (6 more will go on...4 of them after I fixed it to the mast). With the sail loosely pulled up. It works! I'll tighten the sail to the yard a bit more and fix the tight bundle with sail coloured sewing thread. That won't be visible. Even when tightened to the max, the sail bundle will be somewhat too bulky, but not too bad I think. More... semi-soon I hope! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, EJ_L, zoly99sask and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted December 10, 2016 Share #342 Posted December 10, 2016 Looking good!! If you keep it bundled up, Robin, you can use less cloth. It will look more natural. It's a frequently use practice .. Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 10, 2016 Author Share #343 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) Thanks Carl...and...yes...I read and thought about that, but I wasn't sure about what to do with the sail, so I kept the full size. I was also curious about the the curtain system, so I made it 100% functional. I'll reduce the size of the bundle more, but it will still be oversized.....for future builds I'll use half size or tissue paper. Edit: I just checked what's possible with what I have now...on the photo shown the thickness of the bundle is 1 cm (loosely pulled up). When I pull it tight and press the sail together to the max it will be about 5 mm thick (35 cm converted to real size). I think that's acceptable, specially since the sail wasn't tied to the yard...just pulled up by the bunt and clewlines. I plan to tighten the centre part of the sail (8 buntlines) and let the edge (the clewlines) sag a bit. (pulled down by the sheet lines (Dutch: "schoot"). Note: the 8 buntlines will go to the large pin rail on the rear deck. The 2 clewlines and the sheet will go to the pin rail on the railing on the rear deck. Lines from the tip of the yard will also go there. With 1 stay going aft...15(!) lines altogether. This will result in the typical ancient Greek "harp look" rigging. Edited December 10, 2016 by Robin Lous Mike Dowling, Torbogdan, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share #344 Posted December 18, 2016 (edited) Today I finally found some time and...more important...energy to do at least something. Finished the yard (hey! it's something!) 5 of the lines will go down alongside the mast. The rest will go to the several pin rails on the rear deck. The 2 sheet lines and the 2 lines from the tips of the yard can wait. I'll now "do" the mast. Not too much work...6 stays and 5 blocks fixed to the top of the mast...plus 6 blocks on the end of the stays. Maybe the mast and yard can go on before Christmas? That will be nice. More semi-soon again! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, Mike Dowling, GrantGoodale and 7 others 10 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted December 18, 2016 Share #345 Posted December 18, 2016 Thats a great crattmanship you are doing there.... congratulations mtaylor, Old Collingwood, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 18, 2016 Author Share #346 Posted December 18, 2016 Thanks Messis...I can't thank you enough for the photo's you send me. They help me tremendously! It's not only nice for my build, but to know the purpose of all lines and blocks made me understand the rigging of ancient Greek ships. Without your photo's it would look like..."ok, it looks a bit like something greek"...but not even close to the real thing. Thanks a lot! Robin EJ_L, hof00, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted December 18, 2016 Share #347 Posted December 18, 2016 What on earth is 'crattmanship' ? Must be something to do with boats I suppose!! EJ_L, mtaylor and cog 3 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted December 18, 2016 Share #348 Posted December 18, 2016 Mike, How's your Greek, or Dutch for that matter ...? mtaylor, Robin Lous and EJ_L 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted December 23, 2016 Share #349 Posted December 23, 2016 Είχα κάνει misspelling.... αλλά δεν θα διορθώσω για να ψάξετε λίγο τα ελληνικά.... best wishes for christmas and a happy new year Chris EJ_L, cog, hof00 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MESSIS Posted December 24, 2016 Share #350 Posted December 24, 2016 Happy holidays and all the best.... merry christmas and a happy new year.... EJ_L, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share #351 Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Merry Christmas to you all! The kind people here make my build even more enjoyable! I'm not even sure I could manage to do it without you guys. Not even asked for much advise, but the encouraging words are very helpful. I'm so looking forward to continue and finish the bireme. Extreme december business now.....think 450+ customers per day who need advise and gifts wrapped. It's insane! The shipyard will go full swing again soon...right now I'm glad I survived the day! Thanks guys! Robin Edited December 24, 2016 by Robin Lous EJ_L, mtaylor, Torbogdan and 1 other 4 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted January 2, 2017 Author Share #352 Posted January 2, 2017 I'm back on the shipyard! Things slowed down early december and I've done nothing at all the last 2 weeks, but now it's January and I have the time, peace of mind and energy needed to work on my build again. Where was I? Ah! yep....the mast! Here I go again!....more soon! Robin EJ_L, cog, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torbogdan Posted January 5, 2017 Share #353 Posted January 5, 2017 I look forward to new pictures of your great ship! EJ_L, mtaylor and Robin Lous 3 Quote Built ships http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13384-the-pinta-by-torbogdan-dusek-shipmodels-172/ http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/13673-hanse-kogge-by-torbogdan-dusek-ship-models/page-5#entry458535 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share #354 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Mast done. Nothing spectacular and the only reason I post this is because it's a "I'm back on track" photo. So I placed the mast with the 6 stays attached to it (1 goes forward, 1 goes to the rear and 2 to each side). I now must do the blocks. One on each stay and the same amount of blocks attached to the ship to tention the stays. I'm still struggling with the proper nautical word for them. In the Dutch language...and nautical terminology... these blocks are called "jufferblokken"...dead eyes in the English language. The Dutch language makes no difference between one or three eyes. They serve the purpose of a dead eye block...just 550 BC...with one eye. It's what the ancient Greek used. English nautical terminology call one eyed blocks...heart blocks. I just don't know how to call them here. Pfff....anyway....the first update in almost 3 weeks. Now...12 blocks (give them a name...I don't know) to do to attach the stays to the ship. With some luck....monday. More soon. Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous CaptainSteve, Old Collingwood, zoly99sask and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted January 7, 2017 Share #355 Posted January 7, 2017 Call them what you want it's your log! I do like to try to use the proper word for a part both for my education and that of who ever is reading my post. That being said, I still don;t always do that. Often times I am trying to explain something that either I or my readers do not fully understand and therefore common wording must be used. I run into that a lot on facebook when I am sharing with my friends and family. If I use wording like abaft, gunwale, bulwark, even port and starboard they can easily get lost. At that time I have to decide how much typing I want to do. Do I explain every term or do I just simplify? Simplify usually wins. Anyway, welcome back to your build! As you said, it may not be much but it is another step forward and a little closer to finishing. cog, Robin Lous, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted January 7, 2017 Author Share #356 Posted January 7, 2017 hiya EJ! Yeah....the difficulty is...we (the Dutch) have the odd habit to feel superior, because we used to bully half the world with our infamous VOC. We find it hard to realise we're no longer on top of the food chain, so we keep pretending...against all odds and reality. Aren't we cute? About Facebook....search for my name. Friends and family are my wooden ship adventure cheerleaders. When I tried to explain....it's not a good idea to slam a bottle of champagne against the bow when finished...they simply claim the bottle to drink! (clever gits!) It's tough to be Dutch! ....specially since we have to deal with the Dutch each and every day ourselves! Torbogdan, Old Collingwood, cog and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Collingwood Posted January 7, 2017 Share #357 Posted January 7, 2017 I'm back on the shipyard! Things slowed down early december and I've done nothing at all the last 2 weeks, but now it's January and I have the time, peace of mind and energy needed to work on my build again. Where was I? Ah! yep....the mast! Here I go again!....more soon! Robin Keep going you can do it - we will all join you for a slipway lauching party :) OC. cog, EJ_L and mtaylor 3 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share #358 Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Disaster struck! Remember these? The 23 blocks I made (I need 17 of them)....They're gone Today I was ready to attach the blocks to the stays and to the receiving end...on the deck and to the sides of the ship. I made my coffee...cleared my (messy) workbench and was ready to do the job. The small plastic cup (until last week) with them in front of me...on the cutting mat....with tools, glue and whatever. Only difference...the cup was empty. No blocks....gone! "Darling? you have an idea what happened here?" "Those grape seeds? I threw them away if you don't mind" "Oh...please...say that's not true" "What?" "My blocks!" "Your what?" "Took me days to make them!" "They looked like grape seeds" "Never mind " Sigh! Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Mike Dowling, EJ_L, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted January 9, 2017 Share #359 Posted January 9, 2017 Oh no!!!! Reasons why I am glad my Admiral stays out of my shipyard. We each have our own spaces that we do not mess with the stuff in there. At least this time you know how to make them so it is just the time required to build and not to design. As horrible as that is, the story did make me laugh a little. Forgive me though as I do feel your pain. cog, mtaylor, Nikiforos and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted January 9, 2017 Author Share #360 Posted January 9, 2017 Yeah...it's completely my own fault (so glad I put the finished oars in a box...in a drawer...a "me only" drawer), but we had an argument over it. "but...I thought!?!?!" "you can think anywhere...but please don't think in my room....just don't!...it's my little place" "but...but " "ok...get your coat...we go to a restaurant" "yay!" "from now on...grape seeds are BLOCKS...at least in MY room! "aye aye sir!" It really was my own fault...my desk IS a mess! ( but it's my mess!) I now ordered ready made blocks (with more "stuff" of course!) Old Collingwood, Baker, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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