ECHO by Trussben - FINISHED - 1:48 - cross-section

[Old Sea Dog]

Looking good so far keep up the good work.

[Trussben]

Well I just picked up a nice piece of model grade ply - 12 x 12 x 1/2" for my building board, now I need to make the square for raising the frames and get the keel drilled, tapped and mounted to the board - maybe in a few weeks I will be able to show some progress.

 

ben

[Sjors]

A few weeks Ben?????????

Then you can help me with the ratlines       

 

[Trussben]

Sorry Sjors, too busy on the Confederacy.

 

Ben

[Rustyj]

Sorry Sjors, too busy on the Confederacy.

 

What Ben! You can lend a hand. I don't remember there being any ratlines on the Confederacy!

[Trussben]

Now Now Rusty, Dont set him off!!   Remember Im doing 3 builds the same as you! Sjors - I think Rusty would have more experience than I on tying ratlines anyway - send the Mirage to him for a few weeks, he can try 4 builds at once.

 

ben

[Sjors]

You are very helpful guy's…….

Maybe I skip that part 

 

[Trussben]

Well this is a happy day!

I was just informed by my boss that we will be receiving a bonus cheque this year!! :-))

I asked the admiral of the house and she said I can spend it how I wish!! I told her that Byrnes model machines was gonna take the lot to upgrade my workshop with some fine tools to help start my darkside career, she smiled sideways and said " whatever you need ".

Ahhh! Love works in soooo many ways!

 

Ben

[gjdale]

Wow! Congratulations Ben - both on the bonus and on the Admiral. She either REALLY loves you, or sees this as a way to keep you out of her hair for longer ......

 

I'm leavin' you to work out which.......

 

But either way, HAPPY DAYS ahead!

[Sjors]

Ben,

 

Does your boss need some new employers???????

Great news and what are you gonna buy?

At the end of the month I'm also buying a few tools….from Proxxon!

 

[Trussben]

Hi Grant - Yeh, I'm not sure which it is either but then ignorance can sometimes be bliss.

 

Sjors - First purchase will be the Jim Byrnes table saw with a few add-ons, we will see how much if any money is left after that.

 

ben

[jml1083]

Congrates on all fronts Ben. I just got the Byrnes disk sander and it is amazing. Jim & Donna put their hearts and souls into their machines. You'll love it.

[JPett]

Ahoy Ben

 

Been lurking here to long to not to say hello and compliment you on this build

 

Congratz on the bonus check too. I am sure it was well deserved. Enjoy the toys

[Trussben]

Thanks Jim and JP.

 

Cant wait to see how much I get, then spend it all at Byrnes toy store.  

[gjdale]

Ben,

 

Regardless of how much your bonus actually is, rest easy knowing that postage is not going to cost you an extra 50% as it does for those of us buying for the other side of the world! Though I have to say, that even with the postage costs, they are still well worth the money and you will be delighted with whatever you get.

 

I can't wait to hear what you end up with!

Edited April 16, 2013 by gjdale

[Cap'n Rat Fink]

Hi Ben good to see starting your cross section....!

[Trussben]

Hi all,

 

Well if you don't know from my Confed build, I am now the proud owner of a bundle of Byrnes tools, I have the JimSaw, disc and thickness sanders to join my dewalt scroll saw.

 

I have been practicing and getting used to using them for the last few weeks and boy am I impressed.

 

Anyway this weekend I will be taking a break from painting and building the Confeds cannons and I am going to make another keel using the power tools and see which I think is better.

 

I will post pics of them both together when done.

 

Ben

[Trussben]

Well I made another keel using the power tools, I dont think its much better than my hand tools one but it sure was faster, 3 hours instead of 10.

I taped the build board plan to my 12 x 12 plywood, drilled it and mounted the keel.

Now I have started cutting floors and futtocks out.

One question - for the 8 1/4 sided futtocks, which stock do I use, 8 or 8 1/2? There is only one billet of 8 1/2 and two billets of 8 inch so if I do use the 8 1/2 and thickness it down, I think I will run out of stock.

 

Dead flat and Dead flat 1 are cut out and glue is drying, i left a 1/32 line around the frames as I cut them out as " meat " for fairing, hope this is enough.

now I have to start thinking of how to make the chocks, I know greg says he does them on his disc sander and gets really good results, any idea how exactly he does it? using the miter gauge I assume.

 

ben

[Trussben]

Build board.

[Sjors]

Very very nice Ben,

 

Handy such tools   

 

[Trussben]

Frames

[gjdale]

Nice work Ben. Gotta love those power tools!

[mtaylor]

Sweet work, Ben.   I'm looking forward to seeing more.  

 

As for the chocks...  good question as I've not done them on any build.  Do you have any of the TFFM books?  I think David A. explains how to do chocks in Volume 1.

[Trussben]

Hi mark, I have all the TFFM books as I plan on building a swan when I finish all my other builds.

There is no real set way described, just adjust until they fit, I guess a bit of trial and error will show the way.

 

Ben

[42rocker]

Your frame looks great. Like the way that your joints are showing.

 

Later 42rocker

[gjdale]

Ben,

 

Re the chocks, I thought I remembered Greg posting something with pictures on this.  Failing all else, I suggest you PM Greg - I'm sure he'll answer in a flash, and more than likely will post something for other Echo builders.

[dvm27]

Ben, sorry about the delay in answering. I just returned from a cruise on the largest cruise ship in the world, Oasis of the Seas.

 

If you have the Byrnes disc sander, doing the chocks is easy. First, I trace place the glued up futtocks carefully over the blank and trace the shape. Next I cut very closely to the outside lines with my scroll saw. Finally, the edges are dressed to final shape by lightly feeding them against the Byrnes disk sander. I use a small sacrificial ply scrap underneath the chock and push it against the sanding disk with my finger. Keep offering it up to the frames and refine until it's a press fit. Make sure the chock is as thick as the lower futtock, as they are stepped!

[Trussben]

Hi Greg,

 

Thanks for the help, I have started making the chocks and I find the easiest way is to have a bit of a tab to hold onto while I sand the angles and sides, it wastes a little bit of wood that I cut away after the chock is glued in place but it seems to be working really well for me now, I completed the dead flat today and the joints are almost invisible.

Now I have to find some bamboo skewers to make treenails with!

 

Ben

Edited June 9, 2013 by Trussben

[druxey]

The amount of waste wood on the 'handle' of a chock is a very small sacrifice to make for the ease of handling this small part.

[Trussben]

Your right Druxey,

 

I kept trying to use tiny scrap parts of wood and just could not accurately get good joints, as soon as I used a bit bigger piece it was soooo much easier to manipulate it and feed it to the disc sander and achieve the correct angles.

Steep leaning curve to this scratch building but I am enjoying it greatly, after I finished the dead flat frame I ran excitedly to show the admiral and she was even impressed!

 

Ben