US Brig Syren by svein erik - Model Shipways - 1:64 - 18 gun brig

[svein erik]

Started on building the brig syren,

and the first photo so fare

am planing to get some lights on, so its know time to plan this

before I start going to fast forward 

[Tigersteve]

Another Syren build to follow. Sure, I'm in.

Steve

[Heronguy]

Add a chair for me too please!

[fnkershner]

Erik - is your first name Svein or Erik? Its great to see another Syren. I am just a bit ahead of you. It will be great to compare notes.

[Heronguy]

18 minutes ago, fnkershner said:

Its great to see another Syren. I am just a bit ahead of you. It will be great to compare notes.

 Floyd, you should add a build log too if it isn't "on the shelf" anymore!

[svein erik]

Hi, well its both

svein is my first name and erik is middel name

Its something they do here in viking land👀 (NORWAY)

Edited August 9, 2017 by svein erik

[JohnReid]

Looks like a great start, Cheers ! John.

[svein erik]

Hi again 

and here are my plans for the lanterns so far

maby its not historical correkt but I cant find anyting about lanterns on the syren

 

[Chuck]

Unlike brigs and frigates in other countries,  you would not likely find any lanterns on American vessels.  Not like you know from other English ships like Bounty or Victory.  For example,  If you were to look at any contemporary info.....paintings and models,  you wont see any that show a lantern on Constitution or similar vessels.   Its just not something you will see.  

[svein erik]

That you are right, I did not find anyting to comare with, but I think this wil be a nice tutsh on the model

I May have to take away the stern lanterns an maby I wil replase it, make a figure to hold a lanterns etc

I have order some 1.8 mm pico led for the Job.

befor I moving on I wil set up the lights on the model an try it out before I do the task permantly 

 

[HIPEXEC]

You are off to a great start. That's the neatest filler blocks I've ever seen. You should see my filler block mess. I'll be watching. Goos luck

[svein erik]

Hi am back from hollydays 

and I am going all inn on the syrens build 

but before I do so, this is the the isue 

templates or the model is out of scale so its a goooood start 😈

[svein erik]

I have know sendt a mail to M.E  

they need know take some action on quality control On the plans and kit 

if something is wrong here its going to be a problem truaout the hole build 

if you use the plans as a refrance 

as the plans is know, I can only use it to keep me warm in the winter😈

[Tigersteve]

On 5/28/2017 at 3:46 PM, Chuck said:

How hard can it be for these guys to print those templates correctly for the kit......seems like the easy part.  Anyway.....hope these help.  Remember to set your page scaling to NONE when printing them.  And measure the scale bar for accuracy where each segment should be 3/16" wide.  If these dont match your plans then they probably printed your plans incorrectly as well.  Always measure the scale bar to find out.  That is why it is there.  These are the original files.   

 

Chuck

colorcodedtemplate.pdf

framingplan1.pdf

framingplan2.pdf

framingplan3.pdf

framingplan4.pdf

framingplan5.pdf

framingplan6.pdf

framingtemplate7.pdf

sternframingsyren.pdf

Svein,

Read the above (Chuck's response to another member's identical issue). 

Steve

[svein erik]

Thanks,  yes I have seen this before and am going to make some prins

But M.E is not going to get away with it 

maby they learn something 😈😈😜😜

[svein erik]

L.o.l wel not prins,But prints 😂

[svein erik]

 I got my pico lights for the lanterns, some of the cabels has to get on board Soon, 

and it looking good,

am using a remote control and can tone down the braithness lights 

the pico I using is Orange colour, Know I have to make some ships lanterns 😱

 

[HIPEXEC]

Good luck. I'll be watching. This kit goes through a "delicate" stage so be carefull.

[Nirvana]

Svein-Erik, great to see another Syren.

I find it interesting and fascinating you're adding the led lights. 

Good luck and be careful, the Syren has it's traps.

[svein erik]

Am going to  install the gunport siles and lintels ang am using the templets yust as a gide, 

I have to mesjure gunport to get it right later.

Battens are install for the siles. 

I also made a copyof templates and ti Seems to me that its ok, butt the problem May bi inn the frame

[Tigerdvr]

I'd be the last one to take issue with Chuck but I have to think the early American Navy had to have some sort of

light in and on their ships during the night. 

I am considering some sort of illumination for my Confederacy.

Cheers, Harley

Edited August 23, 2017 by tigerdvr

[svein erik]

Making some progress, finish the sill and lintels  

and am know ready to get it sand.

 

Svein.erik 

[zappto]

Wow, ship will be with lights! this is really nice! Might you can explain wire line for lights? what diod you will use?

I will follow your build, good luck!

[svein erik]

Hi, thanks

I wil use small pico led for the lights whid remote control  

Am making some oil lamps that the pico goes in to.

the cabels I wil putt inside the hull and will go true the keel.

Then it remain to get this dunn 😲

[AntonyUK]

Hi Svien.

Nice build. Like the idea of the lights.

Did this on my victory cross section. Worked well.

Used very thin wire ( single strand) hidden in a knife cut. And flickered the led with a chip.

Rossi46 also did a excellent  tutorial. 

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15018-hms-surprise-by-rossi46-artesania-latina-scale-148-first-wooden-ship-build/&tab=comments#comment-467056

 

All the best.

Antony.

[svein erik]

Thanks  for the likes and comments 

I finish the frame for gun ports and sweep  ports , I need to fair the hull more outside and inside 

next on the list is to do the stern fraim, 

Edited August 27, 2017 by svein erik

[svein erik]

Hello 

am about to planing the lights for syren and am going for 5 pico 

I wil also try to make oil lamp for a figur to hold 😓 well if I can??

Am not using the cabel on the photo, it to big so am ordering some New for that.

with some other stuff😆if my wife let me🙊

 

 

[svein erik]

Hi here to😄

a little update,  have got my cabel wire 

and I wil Soon wrap this inn the syrens hull for the lights

Im posting photo wen this is dunn

[svein erik]

So, here are the lighting istallation 

all the wire is on board and I have montet brass tube fore montig the model later on the board, 

the wire goes true one of the tube and wil go under the finish board

this board will have a lager brass tube so the model will be sett down to.

the lights work well and next is to blokk up the hole frame, sett away the pico leds for future monting 

 

Svein.erik

[el cid]

Re: ship's lights.  Below is a transcribed diary entry from a midshipman in SYREN during her expedition with INTREPID to burn the frigate PHILADELPHIA.  I did my best to interpret the 12-hour clock times given to 24-hour time.  Second para mentions lights, but doesn't indicate where they were displayed.  Taken from "Naval documents related to the United States Wars with the Barbary Powers" five volumes of which are available online.  Many interesting SYREN factoids within...grueling schedule for the small US force involved.

 

Midshipman F. Cornelius deKrafft

16 February 1804

 

Commences with fresh breezes, clear and pleasant weather.  The Intrepid in company.  At 0230, made the land on our lee bow.  Hauled up the mainsail, took 1 reef in the topsails, and bent the stream cable.  At 0330, backed the main topsail for the Intrepid to come up.  At 0400, lowered down the cutter and sent 9 men on board the Intrepid with cuttlasses, pistoles, musquets. etc.  At 0430, the boat returned, hoisted her up and made sail for the land.  At 0530, mountain Togura (6 or 8 miles to the E of Tripoli) bore SSW, town of Tripoli SW.   At 0600, tacked to the NW.  At 0730, boarded main tack.  At 0930, tacked to the SW, set staysails and jib.   At 1000, called all hands to quarters and run out the guns, hauled down staysails and jib, and hauled up square mainsail, brailed up after mainsail.  At 1030, spoke the Intrepid.  At 1100, backed the main topsail, sounded and got no bottom. 

 

Midnight moderate and clear, lost sight of the Intrepid.  Hauled up the foresail, backed main topsail, sounded in 35 fathoms and filled away.  At 0100, sounded in 14, 12, and 9 fathoms (from 0100 to 0400 standing off and on the shore).  Showing lights for the Intrepid (which were answered).   At 0100, called all hands to quarters, run in the guns and secured them, shipped the ports, wore and stood off shore.  Made sail, the Intrepid on our lee bow.  At 0800, the high land near Tripoli bore SW by W, 7 leagues.  At 1100, the Intrepid tacked to the S and E.  Noon, wore to the S and W, handed square mainsail, reefed the foresail, and set after mainsail.  Moderate breezes and pleasant.  The Intrepid bearing S ½ E, 8 miles distance.