cog Posted October 24, 2017 Share #91 Posted October 24, 2017 Depends on the tickness of the brass. For strong joins: silver solder (wire or paste, paste is easier sometimes), else solder iron with solder. I can solder wih a torch upto (or is it down to) 0.2mm brass wire with silver solder paste. Most will use the solder iron as it is very easy to burn the brass away ... You'll have to try and find out what works for you. mtaylor, popeye the sailor, semorebutts and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share #92 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Looks like its gonna be alot of trailer and error. I have an iron i just have to buy flex and solder. Maybe micromark has somthing. Edited October 24, 2017 by semorebutts popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 24, 2017 Share #93 Posted October 24, 2017 (edited) Like Carl says, I'd use a hot iron with a sharp point, unless you have a very small torch. I've only done electrical soldering, so favor rosin core solder. It needs some cleanup. There also acid flux, which requires better cleanups. A big torch might melt away the fine brass PE. I'm sure a lot of guys will fill you in on soldering technique. This is how I'd do it. Tin your soldering iron after cleaning the tip. Put a bit of solder on the tip to tin it. Nice shiny tip means good heat transfer. Clean and flux your joint. Shiny brass, then apply your flux. Apply the heat to the joint, then touch the solder to the joint. Try not to apply the solder to your iron tip. Heat on one side, solder on the other. Move the solder away and check that you get a shiny looking solder joint. If it's not, you made a cold solder joint, which is weak. Reapply heat and have your solder handy. Make sure you get a shiny joint. Clean up the joint; I might dip it in vinegar to remove the rosin and brush clean any excess solder. You may want to practice on some frets before launching into the FuMo 25, 26 and 27. Edited October 24, 2017 by Canute Adding verbiage Robin Lous, cog, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 24, 2017 Author Share #94 Posted October 24, 2017 Thanks! Canute, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share #95 Posted October 26, 2017 I'm having a hard time trying to figure out what color these life rafts were. I don't think they were grey. Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, zappto and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 26, 2017 Share #96 Posted October 26, 2017 check here: http://www.kbismarck.com/ look in the scale model section.....it might be in there Canute, mtaylor and Old Collingwood 3 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share #97 Posted October 26, 2017 Oh cool. I think im seeing white. popeye the sailor, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted October 26, 2017 Share #98 Posted October 26, 2017 I went looking at images........I saw a blackish gray to black with orange hooding. I also saw a ghost gray, to off white {tinge of gray} hopefully, there is an article or something in there that will steer you in the right direction Canute, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted October 26, 2017 Share #99 Posted October 26, 2017 I searched in google for : "kriegsmarine rettungsfloß farbe" And found this : http://www.forum-marinearchiv.de/smf/index.php?topic=5660.0 They speak about 2 colors Start WW2 : auf einigen Farbfotos zu erkennen, ein fahles Gelb fahles gelb = dirty yellow In 1941 : Schlauchboote waren Taubengrau Taubengrau = pigeon gray Hopefully, this will answer your question Robin Lous, popeye the sailor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 26, 2017 Author Share #100 Posted October 26, 2017 Oh yes it does! Thank you. Dirty yellow it is! There is enough grey on the ship already. Dan Vadas, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share #101 Posted October 27, 2017 Just bought this. Dan Vadas, popeye the sailor, Robin Lous and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 27, 2017 Share #102 Posted October 27, 2017 The Trumper kit PE, and epoxy set. Nice. You'll add some weight to your build with that one!!! popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 27, 2017 Author Share #103 Posted October 27, 2017 I might have to unglue some things now lol. Dan Vadas, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share #104 Posted October 28, 2017 Trumpeter kit $250 mk1 PE $200 pontos PE $160 VM gun kits $72 and everything else I had to buy. Compressor, airbrush, all paint and glues, PE tools, tweezer set.... litterally everything. Add it all up its close to $1300! Not to mention the custom acrylic case and display table and lighting. I bet this will hit $2000. But I LOVE every minute of it! mtaylor, coxswain, Altduck and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGL Posted October 28, 2017 Share #105 Posted October 28, 2017 You can never, NEVER, have enough aftermarket cog, coxswain, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 28, 2017 Share #106 Posted October 28, 2017 6 hours ago, RGL said: You can never, NEVER, have enough aftermarket He's right Scott. For my Musashi I've got the Pontos, and the Flyt Hawk detail up sets, besides that I've got a few sets of railing stanchions (7 brass and metal colour), perforated gussets & support beams, water tight doors, epoxy anchors for IJN ships ... I hope to use them on other ships aswell ... that's for my first plastic /PE build. Currently distracted by a dutch sub, and I used some of the stanchions for it. Besides the PE, the tools, the paint (airbrushes/compressor/cleaning utensils/etc), I've got brass rods, sheet, and styrene rods e.a. Let me put it this way: It is not for the faint hearted. However, it is fun and the support and motivation is awesome semorebutts, mtaylor, Canute and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share #107 Posted October 28, 2017 Thank guys, very well said Cog! I do plan on the Missouri, Hornet and hood after the bismark if I have the stamina. So it wont go to waste. The Pontos PE will arrive Monday but I think I can safley airbrush some parts and not have to go backwards later. I found this cart in the dumpster at work. Spray painted it black(during work hours of course) and made it my new paint station. Trying some shading, I dont know what I'm doing but I will learn. Canute, cog, yvesvidal and 8 others 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share #108 Posted October 28, 2017 Also my brand new expensive fantsy lathe! Canute, popeye the sailor, lmagna and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 28, 2017 Share #109 Posted October 28, 2017 Nice spray station Scott. You've got quite a steady hand with the brush! I like the fantasy lathe ... old motor as far as I can see, not made any more nowadays Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share #110 Posted October 28, 2017 Thanks! That "lathe" was also found in the dumpster. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 28, 2017 Share #111 Posted October 28, 2017 That dumpster sounds like a goldmine !!!! Canute, popeye the sailor, semorebutts and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 28, 2017 Author Share #112 Posted October 28, 2017 And painted hexnut, Cathead, Papa and 12 others 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #113 Posted October 29, 2017 Painted a little bit more painted, weathered, assembled these little guys are about 100 years old. harvey1847, Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor and 10 others 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #114 Posted October 29, 2017 Ugh.. I'm so angry. I chipped these. I guess I should use A micro saw and not the exacto on resin. Well I gotta order another one. cog, Canute, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 29, 2017 Share #115 Posted October 29, 2017 The FuMo's look splendid! Looks like a fairly easy repair job on the 10.5 cm guns. Just give it a try before you order new ones. hexnut, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #116 Posted October 29, 2017 I can glue the chipped pieces into place with zap a gap then try to sand it smooth. But do you think it will really work? I will try. Robin Lous, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 29, 2017 Share #117 Posted October 29, 2017 What you can do after filling the gap with the missing bit...or scrap sheet.... You can use a small lick of acrylic paint to fill a remaining gap. sand smooth with 1000 or 1200 grit sandpaper...repeat this a few times when needed. You can fix this! Canute, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 29, 2017 Author Share #118 Posted October 29, 2017 I will try my best. At worst i have to spend 12 bucks for new ones. Robin Lous, Canute, popeye the sailor and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 29, 2017 Share #119 Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) Some putty might come in handy ... or the nearest equivalent in epoxy filler ... You will need it with plastic kits anyway ... good reason to buy it if you d not have it ... I love it when I need new materials ot tools ... Edited October 29, 2017 by cog Robin Lous, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semorebutts Posted October 30, 2017 Author Share #120 Posted October 30, 2017 So i got the Pontos advanced add on set. Opened the box only to discover more than half of what should be in there is missing! There is only PE sheets. No resin parts no brass props no pipes, or rod stock at all. But the good news is i called freetimehobbies.com and he's going to send out everything thats not PE sheets. It's not there fault. So what happens? Freetimehobbies just gets screwed for the cost of one set? Thats not right. popeye the sailor, harvey1847, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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