Ferit Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share #211 Posted May 28, 2013 (edited) This is an absolute masterpiece! A perfect build that inspires me. Your talent is amazing. Thank you Wolf for your comment, highly appreciated. I dropped in your log, your SF II is really great... Even though I don't like much mahogany wood, I realized that it could affect me by seeing your clean and beautiful hull planking... Edited May 28, 2013 by shiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZyXuz Posted May 28, 2013 Share #212 Posted May 28, 2013 I read your build log from the first page, and I must say she is just neat and nice!! especially the cannons and barrels details... BRAVO!! Can't wait to see you to finish this ship!! Cheers! Ferit 1 Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 28, 2013 Author Share #213 Posted May 28, 2013 I read your build log from the first page, and I must say she is just neat and nice!! especially the cannons and barrels details... BRAVO!! Can't wait to see you to finish this ship!! Hi ZyXuz, Thank you for dropping in, for your kind comments... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share #214 Posted May 29, 2013 The rudder... Salty Sea Dog, hamilton, janos and 3 others 6 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaerschen Posted May 29, 2013 Share #215 Posted May 29, 2013 Hello Ferit, I'm wondered that I didn't see any log from you. Now I know why. I admit that I didn't look to kit build logs during the time on MSW. But I'll looking more often to kit builds in future. It looks realy good your Berlin. But I see you are doing much scratch. Ferit 1 Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted May 29, 2013 Share #216 Posted May 29, 2013 Hi Ferit, Your rudder looks if it belongs there and will be forever! Great job again. Ferit 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted May 29, 2013 Share #217 Posted May 29, 2013 Interesting stern post and rudder arrangement Ferit, but beautifully executed. Love the carved work beneath the transom. B.E. Ferit 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share #218 Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) I'm wondered that I didn't see any log from you. Now I know why. I admit that I didn't look to kit build logs during the time on MSW. But I'll looking more often to kit builds in future. It looks realy good your Berlin. But I see you are doing much scratch. Thank you Juergen for your kind comments... Yes, scratch build is another fantastic world in the parallel universe, existing only in my imagination... It's like a dream... Edited May 30, 2013 by shiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share #219 Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Hi Ferit, Your rudder looks if it belongs there and will be forever! Great job again. Hi Sjors, Your kindness again...and forever... (BTW, it is possible to take out the rudder and then to hang on it...) Edited May 30, 2013 by shiponthehorizon Sjors 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share #220 Posted May 29, 2013 Interesting stern post and rudder arrangement Ferit, but beautifully executed. Love the carved work beneath the transom. B.E. Thank you very much B.E.; for the comments of a knowledgeable craftsman... As I haven't any profound knowledge about period ships and try to follow kit plans, it's inevitable for me to make errors. Would you let me know if there is any fault about the stern post and rudder arrangement? From now I can do anything but it would be profitable in my intended build and for the other members. :mellow: Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted May 30, 2013 Share #221 Posted May 30, 2013 Hello Ferit: The stern looks excellent! Someone (I'm sorry but I forget who it was) complimented you on the addition of the port lid rigging - looking at your stern, I almost feel that if I gave a little tug to the line, the gun port would open, and I would find a fully rigged canon behind it! Even if it's not really there, the detail you provide certainly provokes the imagination! hamilton Ferit 1 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share #222 Posted May 30, 2013 The stern looks excellent! Someone (I'm sorry but I forget who it was) complimented you on the addition of the port lid rigging - looking at your stern, I almost feel that if I gave a little tug to the line, the gun port would open, and I would find a fully rigged canon behind it! Even if it's not really there, the detail you provide certainly provokes the imagination! hamilton Hello Hamilton, He was Brian (RiverRat) who complimented me on the addition (I thank him again)... Your habituel kindness and that you have mentioned, makes me feel fine and victorious. hamilton 1 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted May 30, 2013 Share #223 Posted May 30, 2013 Thank you very much B.E.; for the comments of a knowledgeable craftsman... As I haven't any profound knowledge about period ships and try to follow kit plans, it's inevitable for me to make errors. Would you let me know if there is any fault about the stern post and rudder arrangement? From now I can do anything but it would be profitable in my intended build and for the other members. :mellow: Hi Ferit, I’m not very familiar with that arrangement because with British ships some time around the mid to late seventeenth century the make-up of the stern timbers changed. I believe it is referred to as from a square tuck to a round tuck at the stern. Prior to the round tuck the rudder was as shown on your Berlin with the rudder head completely outside of the hull and with the tiller taken in thro’ a square hole below the transom. Because the hole had to be large enough to allow movement of the tiller, it presented problems in keeping out water. With the round tuck the stern post and rudder head lengths were increased and the rudder head was taken up inside the ship thro’ the much smaller helm port and the tiller was entirely within the ship. I understand that many European Navies retained the old style arrangement for some years after the British had changed, so the arrangement on your Berlin would appear to be entirely in keeping with the period. The use of a whipstaff which was the primary methods of steering for larger ships of the period would be operated under both stern arrangements. Sorry if my original comment raised a doubt in your mind. Regards, B.E. Ferit 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-164-scale Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ finished 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ finished HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share #224 Posted May 30, 2013 Hello B.E.; Thank you very much for your interest and knowledge. Everyday I feel content of increasing my capacity of datum about period ships. Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share #225 Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Today I remembered that I have an article at my PC and as soon as possible I returned to it. I noticed that my rudder build has resemblance to the first one in the picture and that makes me feel happy... Edited May 31, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon popeye the sailor and mtaylor 2 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 31, 2013 Share #226 Posted May 31, 2013 (edited) Sure does, very nice! /Matti Edited May 31, 2013 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathewp Posted June 1, 2013 Share #227 Posted June 1, 2013 very nice work Ferit, those decorations look tricky, but you;ve made them look very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 1, 2013 Author Share #228 Posted June 1, 2013 Matti and mathewp; thank you for your encouragements... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share #229 Posted June 3, 2013 (edited) Crow's nest... Three walnut strips 1x3 mm rounded by bender then glued together... There would be four crow's nests in different scales... Edited June 3, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon JPett, augie, avsjerome2003 and 5 others 8 Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted June 3, 2013 Share #230 Posted June 3, 2013 Hello Ferit I've been a bit under the weather and have gotten behind on my build log readings . Lots of nice additions. The decks look great fully rigged, the cannon balls and holders turned out excellent, as did the belaying racks. The belaying rack/pins are very unique compared with most styles. I find them very interesting and a wonder bash of an otherwise poor kit molded piece. Your crows nest method is how I made my mast hoops. I would have never thought to upscale the layering to the crowsnests size though, Great idea! I'll be borrowing that idea. Its good to see so much progress, turtles may be slow but it's about quality, and you my friend show quality in everything you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share #231 Posted June 3, 2013 Hello Ferit I've been a bit under the weather and have gotten behind on my build log readings . Lots of nice additions. The decks look great fully rigged, the cannon balls and holders turned out excellent, as did the belaying racks. The belaying rack/pins are very unique compared with most styles. I find them very interesting and a wonder bash of an otherwise poor kit molded piece. Your crows nest method is how I made my mast hoops. I would have never thought to upscale the layering to the crowsnests size though, Great idea! I'll be borrowing that idea. Its good to see so much progress, turtles may be slow but it's about quality, and you my friend show quality in everything you do. Hi Keith, Such heartening words... Much appreciated... And you always make fell what you point out in your motto... Many thanks... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamilton Posted June 3, 2013 Share #232 Posted June 3, 2013 The crow's nest looks great! I had to look very hard to try to find the seam...I can only imagine it was very slow and painstaking bending these to shape without them splintering! Excellent work! hamilton Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share #233 Posted June 4, 2013 Thank you Hamilton, It's pleasure to see you following my log and boosting always my courage... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 4, 2013 Share #234 Posted June 4, 2013 Wow Ferit, That is nice round crow's nest…. You did it your self? And how did you did't it without braking? Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share #235 Posted June 4, 2013 (edited) Wow Ferit, That is nice round crow's nest…. You did it your self? And how did you did't it without braking? Hello Sjors, Thank you for the comment. That was: Phase 1; I gave a round shape to a wooden strip which had been softened in hot water, by a hot bender tool... Soaked in hot water then bended by the tool, soaked-bended over and over so that even the strip might take a round form... After that, I soaked the strip in hot water for the last time, then without using the bender tool I encircled the wet strip over a piece of timber which had been shaped in a perfect round form, to provide a perfect circular shape. I cut the excessive part of the strip and I glued the junction with CA. I left the strip encircled over the rounded piece of timber. It dried in a good circular form. Phase 2-3; The same procedures with the second strip. This time I also glued two strips together as well. Then the same procedures with the third strip... Finally I took the product out the rounded piece of timber... Edited June 4, 2013 by ashiponthehorizon Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share #236 Posted June 4, 2013 your build is progressing very nicely. Hello Brian, Thank you for your kind words... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klimi Posted June 4, 2013 Share #237 Posted June 4, 2013 nicely done,if i see this model, i´m thinking about this ship, that she will be maybe my next build. love the details Ferit 1 Quote current build: Bounty http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/261-hms-bounty-by-pavel-klimes-160-scale-armed-merchant-ship/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted June 4, 2013 Author Share #238 Posted June 4, 2013 Hi klimi, I am glad to hear that... Thank you... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 4, 2013 Share #239 Posted June 4, 2013 Thanks for the answer Ferit. We have so an planck bender also but I can not work with it... All my planks are still broken so I'll do it on the old fashion way. Soaking and very careful…... Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiverRat Posted June 4, 2013 Share #240 Posted June 4, 2013 Ferit. I'm chiming in with praise for your hoops! You must make an instructional video of your technique. The first episode of MSW-TV! Ferit 1 Quote "Give you joy!" Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli) Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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