flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #181 Posted April 25, 2019 12 hours ago, amateur said: Nice work on a nice ship. I like these ships so much more than those three decked hms something give us a shout when Zeehaan is started, we’ll be there. Jan, Thank you and especially for the advice and clarification throughout this build. Like you, I like building these ships more than what everyone else builds. I can guarantee you that very few ship modelers build Dutch merchant ships. Maybe too difficult, or no interest. Very few modelers scratch build something that hasn't been tried yet or the ship has been built a few times. I like the challenge. Once you start building more Dutch ships you get the hang of the difficulties that arise. Marcus Omega1234 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #182 Posted April 25, 2019 9 hours ago, G.L. said: Congratulations, Marcus. Looking forward to see the Zeehaan growing. Thanks G. L The Zeehaen is a fluit. Has a few canons but that is minimal. In general, fluits were pure cargo ships and were escorted by warships Marcus Omega1234 1 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #183 Posted April 25, 2019 9 hours ago, cog said: Well done Marcus. Looking foward to your next Dutch ship Thanks cog, The Fluit will be to your liking Marcus Omega1234 and cog 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #184 Posted April 25, 2019 Took some more pictures of her and this time it was outside. Brighter pictures Marcus Siegfried, Omega1234, Jack12477 and 7 others 10 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #185 Posted April 25, 2019 Some more Note. Next build. Collecting some history of the Fluit (and their is a lot of that) and working on the paper templates that make up the frames. Like I said before, this is going to be a large model with lots of detail. Marcus Jack12477, Siegfried, GrandpaPhil and 8 others 11 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
KORTES Posted April 25, 2019 #186 Posted April 25, 2019 Congratulations on the work. It's a very intersting, one of a kind ship. My best regards. cog, Omega1234, flying_dutchman2 and 1 other 3 1 Quote
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 25, 2019 Author #187 Posted April 25, 2019 49 minutes ago, KORTES said: Congratulations on the work. It's a very intersting, one of a kind ship. My best regards. Thank you Kortes, Unique ship to built. Marcus mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 27, 2019 Author #188 Posted April 27, 2019 Jan and cog, I think Jan has mentioned the following in one of my builds. It was mentioned that a modeler in Holland attempted to build a Dutch ship "shell first", and he had difficulty doing that. Can you give me a link to that? I am assuming one has to be able to read contracts. I have tried that and once I get to the measurements of the stem post and the transom I am stuck. Everytime I read a contract I draw it out on paper and it works for the keel and the bow. But the rest I can't figure it out. I know that reading a contract and taking the measurements to build a ship is possible because Ab Hoving has done it. The ships in the 17th century merchant ships book are done this way Any information would be appreciated. Marcus Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted April 27, 2019 #189 Posted April 27, 2019 (edited) You could ask Ab Hoving himself, he's on the forum Even commented on your build! Edited April 27, 2019 by cog Piet, mtaylor and Omega1234 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 27, 2019 Author #190 Posted April 27, 2019 11 hours ago, cog said: You could ask Ab Hoving himself, he's on the forum Even commented on your build! Cog, I will do that, even though he is not a regular participant on this forum (he said that himself) Marcus mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted April 27, 2019 #191 Posted April 27, 2019 Niet geschoten is altijd mis ... mtaylor 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
flying_dutchman2 Posted April 30, 2019 Author #192 Posted April 30, 2019 In a message asked Ab. Hoving about building a ship "shell first". It is doable, prepare to make many mistakes and the learning curve is very steep. Marcus mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Angarfather Posted April 30, 2019 #193 Posted April 30, 2019 Hello Marcus. Congrats to you. A very nice ship and an amazing job in modelling. Best regards Hartmut Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote on the : Staatenjacht Utrech At last finished: Gianna a Pinco Genovese HMS Agamemnon
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 1, 2019 Author #194 Posted May 1, 2019 20 hours ago, Angarfather said: Hello Marcus. Congrats to you. A very nice ship and an amazing job in modelling. Best regards Hartmut Thank you Hartmut, it was a challenging build Marcus mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 16, 2019 Author #195 Posted May 16, 2019 The picture below is the start of my personal maritime museum of Dutch ships. On another note, Getting some background information on fluits and Abel Tasman for my next build and I have already started prepping in my unorthodox way. Marcus mtaylor, GrandpaPhil, Piet and 3 others 6 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
cog Posted May 16, 2019 #196 Posted May 16, 2019 Collection ... you'll need a ferw more ... you started of well. Looking forward to the next one! flying_dutchman2, Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
G.L. Posted May 17, 2019 #197 Posted May 17, 2019 A mini Rijksmuseum. Omega1234, flying_dutchman2 and mtaylor 2 1 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24
cog Posted May 17, 2019 #198 Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, G.L. said: A mini Rijksmuseum. maritiem museum mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
G.L. Posted May 17, 2019 #199 Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, cog said: maritiem museum I believe that there is also an ship model room in the Rijksmuseum. mtaylor and Omega1234 2 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24
amateur Posted May 17, 2019 #200 Posted May 17, 2019 Shipmodels everywhere Although the maritime musea tend to shift from models to stories. Jan mtaylor, Omega1234 and cog 3 Quote
Mirabell61 Posted May 17, 2019 #201 Posted May 17, 2019 Hi Marc, excellent looking Dutch ship models.... Nils mtaylor 1 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 17, 2019 Author #202 Posted May 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Mirabell61 said: Hi Marc, excellent looking Dutch ship models.... Nils Thanks, Nils Marcus Mirabell61 and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted May 18, 2019 Author #203 Posted May 18, 2019 Started a new build of the Fluit, the Zeehaen Marcus Omega1234 and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 9, 2019 Author #204 Posted August 9, 2019 Entered the Boyer in the woodcraft and arts category at the local fair and got 1st place, Sweepstakes and Best of Show Marcus ccoyle, mtaylor, oneslim and 6 others 9 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
ccoyle Posted August 9, 2019 #205 Posted August 9, 2019 Outstanding, Marc -- congratulations! mtaylor 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
cog Posted August 9, 2019 #206 Posted August 9, 2019 Marvelous result for a build well done, Marcus. Congratulations mtaylor and flying_dutchman2 1 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Baker Posted August 9, 2019 #207 Posted August 9, 2019 Beautiful model Congratulations on your 1st place, Well earned. Proficiat !! flying_dutchman2 and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
G.L. Posted August 9, 2019 #208 Posted August 9, 2019 Mark, Congratulations mtaylor and flying_dutchman2 1 1 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24
flying_dutchman2 Posted August 9, 2019 Author #209 Posted August 9, 2019 Thank you all for the compliments. Marcus G.L. and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia).
Piet Posted September 13, 2019 #210 Posted September 13, 2019 Fantastic achievement Marcus - bravo. Cheers, flying_dutchman2 and mtaylor 1 1 Quote Piet, The Flying Dutchman. "Your greatest asset is not the quantity of your friends , rather the quality of your friends." (old Chinese proverb) Current Builds: Hr. Ms. Java 1925-1942 VOC Ship Surabaya Planned Builds: Young America Diorama - scale 1:3000 Future Builds: KPM ship "MS Musi." Zuiderzee Botter - scale 1:25. VOC Jacht in a 6" lamp, Buginese fishing Prauw. Hr. Ms. Java - Royal Navy Netherlands Cruiser. Completed Builds: Hr. Ms. O16 Submarine Hr. Ms. O19 - Submarine Royal Navy Netherlands Ship Yard Diorama with Topsail schooner - Friendship Sloop Gwenfra Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Golden Hind - Cutte Sark (both not in this forum)
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