NAZGÛL Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #1081 Posted May 9, 2014 Here is where I am at with the masts. Added and tuned parts and painting and weathered them. Painting them is pretty close to painting the hull, a mixtyre of paint, washes (both dark and light ones), sanding and drybrushing. I tried to look at the new mast parts on the real ship to get a feel for how they could look in tone. /Matti maggsl_01, Lin Feng, NMBROOK and 11 others 14 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbuilder101 Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1082 Posted May 9, 2014 The masts are looking great Matti! They definitely compliment your model! NAZGÛL 1 Quote Sherry Every goodbye is the birth of a memory... Current Build: San Felipe Finished Builds: Mayflower Build Log Gallery: Mayflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
popeye the sailor Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1083 Posted May 9, 2014 supper looking build Matti.......masts look really nice. not too many pictures of the deck lately......refreshing to see it I noticed the position of the capstan......the location seems more logical. most ships have them located just after the mid ship....guess they need more elbow room super build......coming along splendidly! NAZGÛL 1 Quote I yam wot I yam! finished builds: Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build Billing T78 Norden in dry dock: Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20 Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400 Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #1084 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Thank you very much Sherry and Popeye! Interesting about the capstain location. I just got my package of ropes, really lookig forward to have a closer look at them. /Matti Edited May 9, 2014 by NAZGÛL Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1085 Posted May 9, 2014 Excellent work mate It goes without question that they go way beyond what I imagine are shown on the kit drawings. Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1086 Posted May 9, 2014 Excellent work Matti, The mast look great, cant wait to see this wonderful ship rigged Best Regards, Pete NAZGÛL 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #1087 Posted May 9, 2014 Thanks guys, most appreciated! Yeah Nigel except the masts themselves, the parts are scratched. Landströms drawings are very detailed. I also got a lot of help by looking at Claytons pictures of how he made his Vasa masts. I might have to remake the mizzen mast as I think its the only one of them not correct in shape (the others are not bad at all). I need to think about it some more. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1088 Posted May 9, 2014 Matti, the masts look really authentic...... whats your secret on scribing those? ..... it looks like it would be difficult to scribe such a straight line on a dowel like that...... ( if that's what you did )..... great! idea using the washes too!!..... you do some great things Matti,and , after all you've done on this inspiring build I'm sure you'll have no problems rigging her up. Don't work so hard... Do more modelling!!!! :D Frank NAZGÛL 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #1089 Posted May 9, 2014 (edited) Thanks Frank, it's a trick I learned from scratch building in styrene. Use dymo tape, the old hard kind that's used for making labels. place it where you need the groove. Then just scribe with a exacto blade after the tape. First a light stroke with the sharp side then with the backside of the blade. Go light on the hand, so you don't lose control. For wider grooves you can use a sharp screwdriver, but I think it would be to wide for these grooves. You need a new piece of tape for each groove as the glue will not stick more than once, at least not on wood like this, so buy a few rolls Not difficult to do but takes a little practice to get used to. And you need to be cautious as always using an exactoblade. Easy to hurt yourself when slipping. Yeah right now it's a little to much at work now but it's a peak and will settle in a mounth. /Matti Edited May 9, 2014 by NAZGÛL Blue Ensign, Salty Sea Dog and themadchemist 3 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 9, 2014 Share #1090 Posted May 9, 2014 Thanks for the tip Matti....... very clever!! Frank NAZGÛL 1 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 9, 2014 Author Share #1091 Posted May 9, 2014 Cheers mate, iI can't take credit for it, but it works well and you learn it pretty quick. /Matti riverboat 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted May 10, 2014 Share #1092 Posted May 10, 2014 Hola Matti, really nice masts and your tip for making groves is excellent. I will follow your pictures to learn how to make the rigging, for sure they will far better than the instructions plans. Saludos, Karl NAZGÛL 1 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 10, 2014 Author Share #1093 Posted May 10, 2014 Thanks Karl! I've been looking at your masts a lot lately. Yeah, it's a good method to get straight lines on strange surfaces. /Matti Karleop 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 12, 2014 Author Share #1094 Posted May 12, 2014 Small update of the work on the masts: I finally found reference of the mizzen masthead so I redid it, the BB is incorrect in the plans (if I'm not missreading it totally). Also did the the other parts on the mast heads and now I'm planning for the bowsprit details. The BB original parts are not to bad, but it's easy to make better ones and make them close to the one on the real ship. As you can see I got the ropes and I toned it down slightlly. I learned from the Fred Hocker that they found no evidence of heavy tarring on her ropes, but of a light tarring. /Matti Aussie048, CaptainSteve, marktiedens and 15 others 18 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted May 13, 2014 Share #1095 Posted May 13, 2014 Your ability to make it look like the real thing is very impressive. Nice work! popeye the sailor and NAZGÛL 2 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted May 13, 2014 Share #1096 Posted May 13, 2014 Excellent work mate I am looking forward to seeing how you tackle the tops as there is a mountain of work in those if you choose to make them from scratch Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 13, 2014 Author Share #1097 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) Thanks guys! Nigel, if tops are what I think -märsen in swedish- then I just plan to tweak and add details to the kit ones. Thanks for the likes everyone! /Matti Edited May 13, 2014 by NAZGÛL NMBROOK 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
md1400cs Posted May 15, 2014 Share #1098 Posted May 15, 2014 Matti, Nice update on your masts. You captured the multi piece construction very realistically. What did you use for the mast wrappings? Regards, MIchael NAZGÛL 1 Quote Michael Current build : Sovereign of the Seas 1/78 Sergal Under the table: Golden Hind - C Mamoli Oseberg - Billings 720 - Drakkar - Amati Completed: Santa Maria-Mantua -- Vasa-Corel - Santisima Trinidad cross section OcCre 1/90th Gallery : Santa Maria - Vasa - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 15, 2014 Author Share #1099 Posted May 15, 2014 Cheers Michael, I use paper soaked in CA glue. /Matti md1400cs 1 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themadchemist Posted May 16, 2014 Share #1100 Posted May 16, 2014 Hey Matti, Isn't it about time to change the Wasan 1628 banner and show some green in the background.\ I vote a shot that shows her tumblehome. NAZGÛL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share #1101 Posted May 16, 2014 You're right Keith. I see if I get a chance to take pics, we had rain for many days, but the sun is back now. /Matti Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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NAZGÛL Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #1103 Posted May 17, 2014 Here is where I'm at with the masts: First I scratched the front parts for the bowsprit. Then I started with the first märs and it's is almost finished. As I will add skanskläder later on the sides of it will not be visiable. Therefore I focused on the top and bottom sides. I don't have the skills to scratch the whole thing and decided to use the main round part is from the kit.First thing I did was to weather and add planks to its top and bottom to make it look more realistic. I only used two of the kits rings to get it closer to the original proportionwise, otherwise it would far to tall. As I have some spareparts from earlier I could double the number of parts that hold the rings. I had to remake the taller ones. Also added short scratched details. All parts where painted with washes before and after assembly and also some drybrushing. All in all this is made up from 66 parts and I will add a couple of details more and skanskläder and even if it's beyond the kit verion, it's still simplified compaired to the original, so indeed they are quite complicated constructions. /Matti JesseLee, Karleop, riverboat and 13 others 16 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete48 Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1104 Posted May 17, 2014 Looks Good Matti, sounds complicated from your discription, 66 parts wow. I am sure you will do a fantastic job as always Best Regards, Pete NAZGÛL 1 Quote "may your sails be full of wind and the sun on your back" Current Builds : Future Builds : N.G Herreshoff 12 1/2 Scratch Build 3/4" = 1' - 0" Scale Completed Builds : Volvo 65 Farr Yacht Design Herreshoff Alerion Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 Volvo Open 70 Member : The Herreshoff Registry Montgomery Sailboat Owners Group Peter Kunst Sailboat Models http://www.herreshoffregistry.org/ http://www.msog.org/ http://www.facebook.com/Peter-Kunst-Sailboat-Models-1524464774524480/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1105 Posted May 17, 2014 Matti... this build just gets better and better every time you post . Frank NAZGÛL and Salty Sea Dog 2 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1106 Posted May 17, 2014 Excellent work on the top mate.Yes there is a considerable number of pieces,are these supplied laser cut now by Billings? Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karleop Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1107 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) Hola Matti, seeing your topmasts I confirm that the instructions in the Manual are wrong (not so in the plans that the high appear correct). Unfortunately I already made the lower topmasts of the foremast and the main mast according the Manual but I will follow your idea of putting only 2 instead of the 3 rings in the other topmasts. It will be necessary to make and adjust the size of all the pieces that hold the rings but I don´t think will be a problem. From now on I will wait your building progress before continuing!! Saludos, Karl Edited May 17, 2014 by Karleop NAZGÛL 1 Quote Finished Models (Gallery): Pandora (Constructo), HMS Endeavour (AL), San FranciscoII (AL), Fishing boat (scratch), Vasa (Billing Boats) Construction logs: Vasa (Billing Boats) Pride of Baltimore II (M. Shipways) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponto Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1108 Posted May 17, 2014 Nice work....I've admired you progress quietly from the start! I have always found it challenging to get the angles accurate when the rake of the masts and the angles of the tops are concerned......looks like you have nailed it. ....nice pics. JP NAZGÛL 1 Quote Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel), Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL) Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold Current WIP: Berlin by Corel On Shelf: HMS Bounty (Billings), Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NAZGÛL Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #1109 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) Thanks everyone for the kind comments and likes! Nigel, yeah the parts are lasercut from the kit, reshaped. I got my hands on spare sheets for the kit earlier and doubled the number of the parts holding the rings. The small squared parts are scratched. Karl, I'm sure your will look fine. Ponto, I agree about finding the right angle, I 've redone the angles a couple of times before it felt right. /Matti Edited May 17, 2014 by NAZGÛL Karleop, NMBROOK and popeye the sailor 3 Quote Billing Boats Vasa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NMBROOK Posted May 17, 2014 Share #1110 Posted May 17, 2014 Wasn't sure mate,I have a Smit Rotterdam in the loft from a good few years back,the box had the lasercut sticker on,but only the bulkheads were lasercut,everything else was to fret out.I wonder whether all their kit's are fully lasercut now? Kind Regards Nigel NAZGÛL 1 Quote Currently working on Royal Caroline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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