St Nectan by Kevin - FINISHED - Mountfleet Models - 1/32 - Steam Trawler - Completed June 2020

[mtaylor]

Rats... pity that as it would have made the tightening and adjustment so much easier.

[Kevin]

5 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

Rats... pity that as it would have made the tightening and adjustment so much easier.

Mark i could make some, well i say make, i could chop the threaded bits off and push them into a hollow tube, BUT am i doing the wrong setup for this build, should it be deadeyes like on the foremast

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

have i got this right

 

i have tried. although room for improvement to adapt a turnbuckle to hold a replicated cable in place without the need to tie the rope/wire off

 

any suggestions appreciated,  

 

Edited March 6, 2020 by Kevin

[popeye the sailor]

you could go that route....it looks Ok.   I think though that it employs a few different materials and might not last too long before coming apart.  how about you keep the turn buckles the way you have them,  and when you rig them.....     slide small brass rings to create a loop in the cable,  trapping the turn buckle in the loop.   cement or anchor them in place on the deck.   then tighten the cables within the rings and apply a bit of solder or CA when the proper tension is achieved.

[popeye the sailor]

I think it would give you a tighter loop and you might be able to trim them a lot shorter

[Kevin]

3 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

you could go that route....it looks Ok.   I think though that it employs a few different materials and might not last too long before coming apart.  how about you keep the turn buckles the way you have them,  and when you rig them.....     slide small brass rings to create a loop in the cable,  trapping the turn buckle in the loop.   cement or anchor them in place on the deck.   then tighten the cables within the rings and apply a bit of solder or CA when the proper tension is achieved.

lol bit tired tonight, im trying to visualise how that  will work, i will give some thought during doggie walkies, be back soon

[Jim Lad]

Found this photo which may help you to visualise the job, Kevin.  It's of the derelict steam trawler 'Viola' and is from the web site of the Australian Company of Master Mariners.

 

John

 

[Kevin]

good morning everyone

thank you for the help on this subject

 

so far this morning i have come up with this, looks so much tidier, and seams to work

 

[Kevin]

good morning everyone

 

well i put the shrouds in place, they are secured at the bottom, and the tops are still free to be adjusted, when the time arrives, i may have to remove the mast again to put a larger wedge in to improve the rake

 

the ratlines will be thread, as that is how the Ross Tiger is fitted out, although a different type of trawler

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

 

 

the funnel, is a large lump to just drop in place, and there are no location tabs, so i have fixed a piece of wood inside the funnel, another fixed to the superstructure and drilled through a 3rd but, this screw then pulls the piece inside the funnel down therefore locking it in place (not fell of yet)

 

i continued with the rigging today, and it seams to be ok, the mast is in the right position, so for now i am making up the backstays

Edited March 9, 2020 by Kevin

[yvesvidal]

Your trawler is coming along very nicely. I hope you keep this one.

 

Yves

[Kevin]

19 hours ago, yvesvidal said:

Your trawler is coming along very nicely. I hope you keep this one.

 

Yves

im passed that stage, and as i nor have the free time, thoroughly enjoying it

 

 

good evening everyone, another day another update, you lot are so lucky

 

some of the little modules that i built months ago are now finding there way onto the build

the booms behind the wheelhouse the fwd funnel stays are in, the two cowls now have a home, but mainly there for now to ensure nothing is causing an obstruction

two booms are in the rest position, and will be rigged tomorrow, in the raised position

all the mast stays are now in place, and this week will be fixed in place so that the ratlines can go in

 

then outside for a few photo's

 

 

 

 

 

[yvesvidal]

WOW!!! This is coming along nicely. Very realistic model.

 

Yves

[Kevin]

56 minutes ago, yvesvidal said:

WOW!!! This is coming along nicely. Very realistic model.

 

Yves

thats a fantastic complement thank you

[Old Collingwood]

Your doing some amazing work Kevin,  so much attention to detail is going into her.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone, 

 

not a complete disaster today, but the photos,  do not show what i am trying to achieve, however the steel lines are still to be weathered, and perhaps then it wont look so bad,

But my attempt at a well hammered/used set of shrouds and rats, dont look good at present

[mtaylor]

The rats are thread, right?  If they are, just brush on a coat of white glue and water (50/50) and shape in the droop. Looking good from here as it sits.

[Kevin]

56 minutes ago, mtaylor said:

The rats are thread, right?  If they are, just brush on a coat of white glue and water (50/50) and shape in the droop. Looking good from here as it sits.

yes mark, the shrouds are steel,rats were cordage, wooden slats, or even wire, i think they are to black, so i might just redo the lot, and even think about the mast idea again, and move to a metal tube, to stop any flexing

[yvesvidal]

6 hours ago, Kevin said:

yes mark, the shrouds are steel,rats were cordage, wooden slats, or even wire, i think they are to black, so i might just redo the lot, and even think about the mast idea again, and move to a metal tube, to stop any flexing

Metal tube....yes, absolutely.

 

Yves

[Kevin]

i have today ripped the lot out, and restarted, will post an updated later

[Kevin]

good evening everyone

 

well the first big rip out of this build, i removed the mast. and rigging, having made the decision its not good enough

 

mast removed

 

 

 

deck hole made larger

made the mast base hole larger

metal tube from the Bismarck build cut lager than required

wooden dowelling to firm up the top section of the mast

resprayed and back on the boat within an hour

the extra metal tube is secured under with a washer c/a into place

new shrouds made as before but now toned down with a flory grime wash

i even converted a photo to black and white to help me make a decision to do the rip out, obviously that didnt change my mind

 

Edited March 13, 2020 by Kevin

[Jim Lad]

A brave move, Kevin, but one you won't regret.  If you hadn't made the alterations it would bug you every time you looked at your model.

 

John

[Old Collingwood]

I completely understand your reasons for wanting to strengthen the mast   - I know its a different subject matter  - but I did the same in my Pearl build.

 

OC.

[mtaylor]

Good move, Kevin.   I quite agree with the others. 

[hof00]

Ditto the above comments....

 

Looking good!!

[Kevin]

Good evening

 

well im not 100% sure i have achieved what i wanted, but it look far better than it did, at present i have lost the wire rope effect, and some of the ratlines are not laying down correctly, the 2ns can be sorted with a pva wash, i may try drybrushing the shrouds, anyway here is the port side

 

[yvesvidal]

It looks so much better Kevin. Well done.

 

Yves

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone

 

well both side are rigged for now, i dont see the need at present to do them for the third time

 

presently i am researching the way the booms are rigged, the plans are a bit vague, it appears that the the lift is controlled via a series of blocks and tackles, personally, i would have thought that would be slow going to pull a net in that way, 

[yvesvidal]

Very nice job Kevin.

 

Yves

[FriedClams]

Just catching up Kevin - very nice job you’re doing here.  That was a tough call on the mast, but as others have said, it would have always bugged you.  She is looking sweet !

 

Gary