Vane Posted February 28, 2019 #1 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) HMS Victory - 1st build 25 years ago I bought this kit from Corel as I have always been curious on modelships. The first couple of years I managed to build the hull of the ship and but when I when it was time to start with the masts I lost interest in the project. I picked it up a few times over the years but it was always just for a few days. Probably I should have started on a simplier first build but when you are young and naive you tend to aim for the sky. Now I am destined to complete this build and I have also started on another ship to give it some variation. I just recently found this forum and maybe you guys can inspire me to ensure I complete it. Since its my first ship I am far from the skills of what I have seen here. History According to Wikipedia, HMS Victory is a 104-gun first-rate ship of the line of the Royal Navy, ordered in 1758, laid down in 1759 and launched in 1765. She is best known for her role as Lord Nelson's flagship at the Battle of Trafalgar on 21 October 1805. She additionally served as Keppel's flagship at Ushant, Howe's flagship at Cape Spartel and Jervis's flagship at Cape St Vincent. After 1824, she was relegated to the role of harbour ship. In 1922, she was moved to a dry dock at Portsmouth, England, and preserved as a museum ship. She has been the flagship of the First Sea Lord since October 2012 and is the world's oldest naval ship still in commission, with 241 years' service as of 2019. The kit This is one of the cheaper and smaller Victory kits. The wood was very good especially the walnut. Lots pre made stuff in the box. Some of the details are made in some kind of pressed woodenmass/paper which makes Nice details but kind of not the buildquality you want. Canons and gunports are pre made and may not look perfect but is easy to assemble for the beginner. Very few pre made parts for the masts and yards. I like that there are many plans and that the are reasonable in size. But the manual and instructions are quite bad. Edited September 2, 2019 by Vane Consistent headings/style with my other buildlogs Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted February 28, 2019 Author #2 Posted February 28, 2019 (edited) This is how the ship looks today…. Edited February 28, 2019 by Vane Added photo mtbediz, GrandpaPhil, chris watton and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
mtbediz Posted March 1, 2019 #3 Posted March 1, 2019 Of course you can do it. Will be following. Quote Mustafa Current Build, USS Constitution 1:76 Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34741-uss-constitution-by-mtbediz-176/#comment-991858 Finished, HM Cutter Alert 1777. Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/31859-hm-naval-cutter-alert-by-mtbediz-finished-136-scale/#comment-902949 Finished, USF Essex, Scratch https://modelshipworld.com/topic/25954-usf-essex-by-mtbediz-150/ Finished, Santa Maria, Mantua Kit https://modelshipworld.com/topic/23113-santa-maria-by-mtbediz-finished-mantua-150/?tab=comments#comment-683297 Finished, HMS Pickle (Scratch) https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21684-hms-pickle-by-mtbediz-140-finished/?tab=comments#comment-651070 Finished, Santa Maria https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15541-santa-maria-by-mtbediz-handmade-kit-by-a-friend/&do=findComment&comment=483052 Finished, San Francisco II, AL Kit https://modelshipworld.com/topic/17344-san-francisco-ii-by-mtbediz-finished/
Vane Posted June 25, 2019 Author #4 Posted June 25, 2019 I am truly sorry for the absence of updates. Work has progressed, but I havent had the time for writing about it. I have been mostly into the masts and the yards. Basically all of the wooden work has been finished. I also decided to pick it up a notch... with two additional builds that will get their own buildlogs soon. Anyone that can identify them? GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted June 25, 2019 Author #5 Posted June 25, 2019 (edited) A few thoughts on the kit itself. I bought it in the 90s so it might have been changed since then? Anyway, first the scale...1:98.. i would probably had prefered something much larger which could give Victory the details it deserves. However, then it would had been an enourmous model just to place in a room. Now its slightly longer than meter which is quite reasonable. But you miss out on the details and its trick to handle everything when building it. The plans are quite Good. Nicely drawn and I really like that they are many but not oversized. But there could had been more details and explanations in them. Especially regarding the size of things. Excellent quality of the wood. Lots of pre made stuff making it easy to build. Well besides from the masts and yards which is totally made from scratch. Mtrl... the pressed wood/paper solution brings out lots of details but it also looks kind of fake. Rope... Well if you want to paint your ship (which i think would be the first option) you dont get anything in Black. that sucks. Missing pieces, most things were in the box. I missed a bowsprit Cap. Now at the end I also realized that i am running out of some things. some walnut sizes. Also rings and eyebolts. I am overall happy with the kit but there are s few things that should be upgraded. Edited June 25, 2019 by Vane spelling GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted June 26, 2019 Author #6 Posted June 26, 2019 I have been looking into the buildlogs for inspiration for my upcoming rigging work. There are a huge number of Victory models being built. But unfortunately, there are not many of the Corel version and most of those seem to have died during the build process. Anyone know where i can find lots of photos of the rigging and mast/yard details on a Corel HMS Victory 1:98? Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted June 27, 2019 Author #7 Posted June 27, 2019 One of the pieces that was missing in my kit was the pre cut Cap for the bowsprit, but the had an extra for the Main mast so i had to modify it. Not perfect but ok. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted June 27, 2019 Author #8 Posted June 27, 2019 After looking at photos of the real Victory and other larger scale models I believe that Corel made a few compromisses for the design of the bowsprit. Maybe it just the scale 1:98 that is just too small to make it right. It was also difficult to fit everything in place here. GrandpaPhil and Kenneth Powell 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted June 30, 2019 Author #9 Posted June 30, 2019 Working on the yards. I decided to do the "thinkening" in the middle bit differently than suggested by the plans where you have to put 8 very small pieces together. Instead i just make the yard Square. Add 4 pieces of thicker planks together and thereafter carve out 8 sides. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 22, 2019 Author #10 Posted July 22, 2019 I will soon post more photos on how the ship looks today, but first I revisited some of my old archives and found some photos that must be more than 15 yrs old probably shot with my first digital camera ever so the quality is really bad. Unfortuntaly, I didnt find anything from the start of the build. Maybe I have some old traditional analog photographs hidden somewhere… Here we go: chris watton, GrandpaPhil and Ryland Craze 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 22, 2019 Author #11 Posted July 22, 2019 These were from 2005 and I seamed at least have improved my photography skills abit: zappto, chris watton, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
James H Posted July 22, 2019 #12 Posted July 22, 2019 Impressive finish so far. I bet you're looking forward to the rigging 😈 Quote SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! On the bench: Zip, nada! On Hold: HMS Winchelsea Double Capstan - Syren Ship Models - 1:48 Finished US Baltimore Armed Privateer Schooner Grecian 1812 (prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 'Zulu' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 Fifie' fishing boat, Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Flirt 1782, Vanguard Models - 1:64. Duchess of Kingston c.1780 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Sphinx 1775, Vanguard Models - 1:64 ERYCINA - Plymouth Ketch-Rigged Trawler 1882, Vanguard Models - 1:64. 'Nisha' - The Brixham 'Mumble-Bee' - Vanguard Models 1:64 'Saucy Jack' fishing boat - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Ranger 'Barking Fish Carrier' - 1864 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 HMS Indefatigable - 1794 (production prototype), Vanguard Models - 1:64. HMS Harpy - 1796 (production prototype) - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Indeterminate: Tender Avos - Master Korabel - 1:72. H.M.S. Victory (production prototype) - Amati - 1:64. HMS Granado 1742 (cross section) - CAFModel - 1:48
Jonesey Posted July 22, 2019 #13 Posted July 22, 2019 She's a real beauty. I recently started again on my Corel 1:98 Victory but I'm nowhere near as far advanced as you are - haven't even started on the hull planking yet. Your work is an inspiration! Vane 1 Quote
Vane Posted July 22, 2019 Author #14 Posted July 22, 2019 (edited) Thanks 🙂 Well, considering I build this mostly 20yrs ago and its my first, I am quite happy so far but its far from other builds on this site. Back then it was also difficult to get info and help since Internet had merely started. I remember ordering numerous of books from UK and here are the ones that help me out abit. I have started with the rigging and its both fashinating and scary. This is definitely not the right model to start with, so i am doing HMS Snake in parallel. Not sure which one that will come first to the finishing line.... Edited July 23, 2019 by Vane GrandpaPhil and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 24, 2019 Author #15 Posted July 24, 2019 And here are some newer photos of the kit taken with a proper camera… its the first time I am doing ratlines so its far from perfect. And also I decided not to put any nettings on her. I just think this scale is too small for some of the details. chris watton, GrandpaPhil, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 25, 2019 Author #16 Posted July 25, 2019 Just some minor details left... GrandpaPhil and BenD 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 25, 2019 Author #17 Posted July 25, 2019 Soon ready for rigging.... BenD, GrandpaPhil, clearway and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 26, 2019 Author #18 Posted July 26, 2019 This is probably the most difficult part to make in the Corel kit. Completely from scratch and with tiny timber. Very fragile. My other kits from Caldercraft has a much easier solution with precut parts. (top part). clearway, GrandpaPhil, BenD and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 27, 2019 Author #19 Posted July 27, 2019 Time to for paint. GrandpaPhil, chris watton and BenD 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 28, 2019 Author #20 Posted July 28, 2019 Hmmmm... reminds me of once home from IKEA and the furnature looks so good in the store and now I need Sherlock Holmes . BenD and GrandpaPhil 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 30, 2019 Author #21 Posted July 30, 2019 And its here...Cornwall model boats delivers quickly... only 7 Days from order to my door in Sweden. What's in the box? What's in the box? What's in the box? GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 30, 2019 Author #22 Posted July 30, 2019 GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
Vane Posted July 30, 2019 Author #23 Posted July 30, 2019 Various of supplies and a 4th model and its massive... definitely not what i need at the moment. And i will try my best not to start working on her until I have at least finished my Victory! GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
GrandpaPhil Posted July 30, 2019 #24 Posted July 30, 2019 (edited) Lol! Edited July 30, 2019 by GrandpaPhil Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Vane Posted July 30, 2019 Author #25 Posted July 30, 2019 And my dreamkit is... 🥁 Jobbie, BenD and GrandpaPhil 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
BenD Posted July 31, 2019 #26 Posted July 31, 2019 I knew it! You made the right choice. HMS Diana is on my someday list. Quote Ropes of Scale.com - Rope and cable for the scale modeler. Finished builds: HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft - 1:64 - 9th century longship - Falkonet - 1:72 Current builds: HMS Snake - Caldercraft - 1:64 - Tender Avos by BenD - Master Korabel - 1:72 - 19th Century Four-Oared Yawl by BenD - Falkonet - 1:24 scale
GrandpaPhil Posted July 31, 2019 #27 Posted July 31, 2019 Excellent choice! Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Vane Posted July 31, 2019 Author #28 Posted July 31, 2019 Thanks, I just had to do it... but how in the hell am I am going to keep my fingers from it is the next question….? Rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, rigging Victory is fun, … if I just say it enough times I might convince myself?! :-P HardeeHarHar, Jobbie and GrandpaPhil 2 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
GrandpaPhil Posted July 31, 2019 #29 Posted July 31, 2019 Look at it from the challenge perspective. I have to rig my Victory in the near future. I will hopefully be at that stage this winter. Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Vane Posted August 11, 2019 Author #30 Posted August 11, 2019 Lots of work done on all my 4 kits this weekend so i decided to take some photos tonight of the current state. Here dry fitting the mast which soon will be glued in position. Just a few more blocks to tie. GrandpaPhil 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory (Corel 1:98), HMS Snake (Caldercraft 1:64), HMBV Granado (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Diana (Caldercraft 1:64), HMS Speedy (Vanguard Models 1:64)
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