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More work on the life boat and the decorations on the starboard side if the ship. It’s tedious slow work...

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An update on some detail work.
 

Ran into a bit of trouble assembling the deck cannons, the glue I have does not seem to hold (a basic white glue, CA slow & fast, and titebond). After some research, epoxy seems to have the best metal-to-metal bond. Will epoxy work to glue the cannons to the deck? Off to the store tomorrow.

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Great work 

 

Just a comment

Wrong

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Better

(the red lines show approximately the length of the beams)

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Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Patrick, I have attached images from the instructions which shows exactly what I have done. I don't see where I did anything "wrong," at least not for the indicated beams. However, should I shorten the beams, it would move the holes and rope rigging that are currently outboard, to inside the ship wall drastically changing the direction and possible function of the lines/ropes that attach to these points. At this point, to shorten the beams as described, could be done; however, i'm not sure having the lines inboard would look aesthetically pleasing.

 

On further evaluation of your suggestion, another option would be to cut out the inboard section, which makes sense as a person walking on the deck would not have to navigate the big beams. However; making this change at this point would cause a mess. Meaning, I have learned building this model that glue does not stick well to painted surfaces. As such, I removed the stain and some of the deck under the attachment point so that the glue holding the beams to the deck would have a wood-to-wood bond. Removing this section now would leave an ugly hole in the middle of the deck that I would need to repair.

 

This is a level 2 (beginner) model to guide the builder through double planking a hull, planking decks, some fine wood and metal detail work, the use of various types of glue/adhesive and some basic rigging. Although being historically accurate is a good thing, this model by OcCre is not even close to historically accurate or even close to the replica's that have been built. No photographs exist of the 1577 Pellican (Golden Hinde), since the camera wasn't invented until 1888. What few drawings or sketches that I could find are from a distance and one author suggest that we do not even know what the ship really looked like. Additionally, it appears that actual dimension of the Golden Hinde do not agree between sources. Regardless, I chose this model as a good looking fun project to construct and as a skill building exercise for future models. It is after all, the first wood model I have ever attempted and i'm pleased with the work so far.

 

 

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What I mean.
These beams are too long and so come together on the deck.
If the building description says so and you want to build it this way. 
Then you can do this. Actually, nobody wont say you're wrong (I certainly don't)

 

I have been working on my GH for over 3 years now.
Building a correct ship from the 16th century is almost impossible.
No plans, of course no photos, only unclear drawings and some hull parts of shipwrecks. 

Only incorrectly built replicas.

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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what i actually mean

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Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Very nice work  great example of this lovely little ship.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Very, very well done 

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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More detail work finished. I didn’t realize how long building these pieces would take. Oh well, that’s the point of a hobby.

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Absolutely  love the paintwork  - really tidy.

 

OC.

Current builds  


28mm  Battle of Waterloo   attack on La Haye Saint   Diorama.

1/700  HMS Hood   Flyhawk   with  PE, Resin  and Wood Decking.

 

 

 

Completed works.

 

Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic.

HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts.

HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine  plastic.

Black Pearl  1/72  Revell   with  pirate crew.

Revell  1/48  Mosquito  B IV

Eduard  1/48  Spitfire IX

ICM    1/48   Seafire Mk.III   Special Conversion

1/48  Kinetic  Sea Harrier  FRS1

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Today’s tasks started with a second coat of satin varnish to protect the new paint job and all the additions since the base varnish I applied when the hull planking was finished. Then a few new additions that took a long time as I needed to study knot tying. Today’s knots included the standard square knot, a stopper knot, a double half hitch lashing, a half hitch spiral (came out nice on the anchor), a cinch knot and probably a few more. All in all, a good day...

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Well done 👍

 

An idea.
You still have to start your masts and standing rigging.
I would wait with the anchors until this is done. They can get in the way 

Regards, Patrick

 

Finished :  Soleil Royal Heller 1/100   Wasa Billing Boats   Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch)   Pelican / Golden Hind  1/45 scratch

Current build :  Mary Rose 1/50 scratch

Gallery Revell Bounty  Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch

To do Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal 

 

Shore leave,  non ship models build logs :  

ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72    Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72   Autoblinda AB40 1/72   122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72   10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e)  Centurion Mk.1 conversion   M29 Weasel 1/72     SAM6 1/72    T26 Finland  T26 TN 1/72  Autoprotetto S37 1/72     Opel Blitz buses 1/72  Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72   Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72    

 

Si vis pacem, para bellum

 
 
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Patrick, I wondered about that, leaving the anchors until later. I was following the instructions; however, the location for the lashing that holds the butt of the anchor does not exist yet. I held in place with a temporary line that I can easily remove, but if/when the anchors get in the way, I will remove them until later.

 

A quick question though, as I'm starting to build the masts. The cross members appear to be held on with just the rigging. I'm sure this is the case on a real ship, but in the modeling world, do I glue the cross members to the vertical portion of the masts? Or do I just use the lashing that holds the two poles together? I'm sure some use only the lashing while others glue the cross members down. Has anyone done both and have a preference? Does it help to have a more stable mast when doing the rigging? Or does it matter at all. Any advise before I screw it up would be appreciated.

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