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Very nice work on the guns Greg; they look great.  What brands of paint are you using for airbrushing these?

 

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Pat

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On 8/30/2020 at 6:02 PM, RGL said:

Yes, I’ve noticed the stripes in the blast bags, there is no way I could replicate them without it looking like crap. The lines on the aircraft would be a bit beyond my skill set too! 

I agree. This would be tough. Anyhow, your build being already top notch, such minute details might not matter at all, and are probably best left out.

The stripes on the aircraft tail might indeed be very hard to paint, although they are regular and parallel, so that a careful use of masking tape might work. At such a small scale though, that's probably a job best left for decals, if any can be found in the aftermarket. For the blast bags, one way to address the issue might be to use a Rotring Needle Pen. It provides a steady ink flow, independent of pressure (unlike a brush), and since the blast bags are an irregular surface anyway, drawing a straight line  with a steady hand might not be essential for effect.

 

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On 8/30/2020 at 3:44 AM, Lt. Biggles said:

What’s the story behind having armistice flags? identification? Or were they painted on once France surrendered?

By 'armistice flags', do you mean the tri-colour stripes on the turrets? I don't know if they were the markings given to neutral warships during the Spanish civil war; RN ships had the same at that time.

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On 8/31/2020 at 8:42 PM, shipman said:

By 'armistice flags', do you mean the tri-colour stripes on the turrets? I don't know if they were the markings given to neutral warships during the Spanish civil war; RN ships had the same at that time.

RN ships during the Spanish Civil War had similar stripes with the same 3 colours, but in reverse order from the French practice: from the bow, red, then white then blue. Kriegsmarine ships had the German tricolor of red, white and black painted on their forward and stern turrets, which did not prevent Deutschland from being bombed with some loss of life aboard.

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3 hours ago, JPBWEB said:

RN ships during the Spanish Civil War had similar stripes with the same 3 colours, but in reverse order from the French practice: from the bow, red, then white then blue. Kriegsmarine ships had the German tricolor of red, white and black painted on their forward and stern turrets, which did not prevent Deutschland from being bombed with some loss of life aboard.

Yep, but the Germans weren't exactly neutral.

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6 hours ago, JPBWEB said:

Kriegsmarine ships had the German tricolor of red, white and black

That's the Imperial Kriegsmarine, which is actually black, white, and red. Nazi Germany had red ensign, with a white and black cross, in the middle of the cross a white circle with a swastika. The jack should have been Red with a white circle, and black swastika

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7 hours ago, cog said:

That's the Imperial Kriegsmarine, which is actually black, white, and red. Nazi Germany had red ensign, with a white and black cross, in the middle of the cross a white circle with a swastika. The jack should have been Red with a white circle, and black swastika

Yes, but we were talking about the neutrality markings on turrets, that in the case of the Kriegsmarine ships used the 3 national colors of Germany: Black, White and Red (red towards the bow on Turret 1, red towards the stern on Turret 2).

 

 

 

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Those Micro Master turrets really pop with the finish you applied Greg.  Looking at them now I think they are much more detailed than the turrets they supplied me for the Houston. Mine are still good, better than the Model Monkey turrets, but not as detailed as yours. I hope they keep up the good work and stay in business even though my pocketbook may not be so happy!

Lou

 

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I think he will. I’ve gotten some more stuff for my next build but I’m still awaiting the three rear quad turrets from NZ which has taken a month so far but I expect the mail is just a mess with the Covid’s. I think you’ll find the turret is probably just more intricate than a US one. Not better but just more to it. 

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Staggering! The skills of some people on here is just astounding. 😲

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12 hours ago, RGL said:

I think you’ll find the turret is probably just more intricate than a US one. Not better but just more to it. 

I think you are at least partly right, your turrets are much more complex than the US 8" turrets on the Treaty Cruisers. I also took another look at mine under a magnifying glass and also compared them to the Model Monkey set I also have. The details jump out at at you and there is little question they are the most detailed turrets available on the market. If there are others that are better I don't know who makes them.

 

It does show me how precise your painting is though. In the case of these turrets it would be VERY EASY to cover the finer detail with layers of paint that are just a little too thick. Even your stripes are laid on so thin that they show no extra thickness over the gray of the turret.   

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4 hours ago, cog said:

Decals ;) :D

My mistake. I just automatically thought he painted them.

Lou

 

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One interesting point of comparison might be the fine model of Dunkerque, Strasbourg's earlier sister ship, that used to be on display at the Musée de la Marine in Paris. One should bear in mind though that the museum's model is at 1/100 scale, i.e. a much larger, although not necessarily more detailed, model of that graceful ship.

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Wow, that detail is amazing.  

 

Greg, if you don't mind, I was wondering if you could share any tips on fixing the railings to the model.  Do you use CA?  White glue?  Do you pre-prime and paint before attaching?  I'm close to adding the rails to my 1/700 destroyer and am wondering if there is a proper way to go about it.  The PE is so thin, that I have to do it right the first time or it will look like garbage.  Thanks in advance!

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Mike, try canopy cement. It's a thick white glue and has some expansion capability. More forgiving than CA. RC folks use it to glue canopies to their builds. Dries clear, too.

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