guitarguy687 Posted June 9, 2013 #1 Posted June 9, 2013 Hello everyone! Opened up my Syren kit yesterday <-- VERY excited. Checked the parts list, checked for quality, and all that other fun un-boxing stuff. Noticed some very good things, it had the correct carronades, I think this is the best out of the box instructions I have ever seen - props to Chuck! Most all the parts were there, was missing a couple things though, some 5mm cleats, also no rigging hearts were included (or on the parts list) but in chucks instructions it very clearly shows them being used in a couple places. Nothing to be used as filling blocks in the framing was included, maybe this is normal, not a big deal to pick some up. The one thing I did find which was very upsetting was a very large about 6mm thick crack down the laser cut sheet that holds the center keel and a couple other framing pieces were affected. Going to give M.E. a call Monday about that (see pictures). Otherwise everything looked to be in great shape, good machining, nice cast pieces, and all wood blocks, dead-eyes, etc were in really really good condition compared to what I have seen in some European kits. I am eager to get started on this build, but it will be a little limited until M.E. gets a new center keel sent out to me. I will keep you updated, AND to be expected un-boxing pictures!!! Center Keel Sheet I was speaking of. It's more difficult to see the damage from the camera. I tried to highlight it to make it more visible. It is not split all the way through but there is only about 1mm of material left in that large indent. It runs from about bulkhead H's slot all the way through the actual bulkhead P. The AMAZING instructions booklet, and my organizational attempt at some of the smaller little bits. MMMM Blue Box The rest of the laser cut pieces, the dowels, wood, etc all look great and pristine condition. I also purchased the Syren paint set which can be seen here. More updates will be coming! Chuck 1 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
augie Posted June 9, 2013 #2 Posted June 9, 2013 Welcome aboard, Thomas!!!!!! You certainly sound excited --- and rightfully so. It's a great kit once you get your problems sorted out. ME does not disappoint. I'm glad that you've decided to share this build with all of us. I'll pull up a chair. Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
ZyXuz Posted June 9, 2013 #3 Posted June 9, 2013 yea, the most exciting part for me about ship modelling is the period between the order is placed until the kit reaches my door.. Well, sorry to hear about that keel crack.. it's kinda torturing to wait for another time Anyway, hope to hear good news from ME and good luck on you build! Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel)
guitarguy687 Posted June 10, 2013 Author #4 Posted June 10, 2013 Can anyone confirm or deny for me if the filler pieces used in between the bulkheads are traditionally included in the kit? If they are not (which I am assuming they are not since I had none in the kit), what would you recommend using? Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
cpt. Tom Posted June 10, 2013 #5 Posted June 10, 2013 Yes, Balsa is very good for that guitarguy687 and augie 2 Quote With best regards Tom Current Kit Build Log The Sovereign of the Seas 1/84 commissioning HMS Supply
guitarguy687 Posted June 13, 2013 Author #6 Posted June 13, 2013 Hello everyone! Well as expected M.E. was awesome about the parts, and they arrived the next day. First thing I did was cut out all the parts, then obsessively organized everything into divided boxes, and the basswood strips into my wood organizer I made awhile back. I guess this is one good thing about O.C.D. Cleaned up the bulkhead former, all the bulkheads, etc. Cut and shaped down from the bearding line, installed the rabbet, the stem knee, then the keel, and false keel. I used rubber cement to temporarily attach the false keel as I did not have any double sided tape handy. Then dry fitted all the bulkheads to check for accuracy, squared everything up, and then permanently attached them all. After that it was on to the bulkhead filler blocks, used balsa wood blocks and formed them as well as I could without pushing anything out of square. That brings us up to where I am now, next is planking the platform between bulkheads 16 and 20, then bow fillers. I unlike a lot of people do most of my work at night during the week, and get very little done on the weekends. So see you all next week! Dubz, rvchima and fatih79 3 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
augie Posted June 13, 2013 #7 Posted June 13, 2013 Off to a fine start! Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
ZyXuz Posted June 14, 2013 #8 Posted June 14, 2013 good to hear your parts got replaced and u started your syren well! Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel)
guitarguy687 Posted July 2, 2013 Author #9 Posted July 2, 2013 Well have all the gun port and sweep port framing done on both port and starboard, and also did the stern framing. Just finished painting all the ports with model shipways red. Everything is faired at this point, I am not really sure if I have taken enough off of the stern filler pieces. I have a picture of it posted below, so if anyone can give me any tips that would be great. yvesvidal and fatih79 2 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
guitarguy687 Posted July 2, 2013 Author #10 Posted July 2, 2013 Plank bending jig created today. First planks now drying. Not very pretty but it gets the job done. augie, fnkershner and fatih79 3 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
fnkershner Posted July 3, 2013 #11 Posted July 3, 2013 Another Syren! Oh Goodie! Augie can I have that chair next to you? guitarguy687 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
Rustyj Posted July 3, 2013 #12 Posted July 3, 2013 Very Nice Start Thomas. Chairs for everyone! guitarguy687 1 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Trussben Posted July 3, 2013 #13 Posted July 3, 2013 Yep, nice start to another beautiful Syren Thomas. Keep the updates coming. Ben guitarguy687 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Pegasus TFFM. HMS Winchelsea. Completed builds: ECHO cross section.18th C Longboat.QA Barge. Medway Longboat.
augie Posted July 3, 2013 #14 Posted July 3, 2013 Another Syren! Oh Goodie! Augie can I have that chair next to you? Yup! And I'll tell Sjors to start making popcorn. This is going to be fun. guitarguy687 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Simon Posted July 6, 2013 #15 Posted July 6, 2013 Great work Thomas -looking forward to seeing you in action on the planking as I have yet to conquer my fear of Garboard strake, spiling, stealers etc !! Seeing others in action really helps. cheers Simon Quote Just started: HMS Victory by Mamoli 1:325 Kind of finished: Boston Whitehall Tender by Midwest On the top shelf: HMB Endeavour by Caldercraft
guitarguy687 Posted July 9, 2013 Author #16 Posted July 9, 2013 Got some planking done today. The upper most strip of the wales and all the planks above it are on. Next up some sanding and staining... fatih79 1 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
augie Posted July 9, 2013 #17 Posted July 9, 2013 Looking nice, Thomas. guitarguy687 1 Quote Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
ZyXuz Posted July 9, 2013 #18 Posted July 9, 2013 wow, nice job on the gun ports Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel)
fnkershner Posted July 9, 2013 #19 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) I'm with you Simon. After sanding all of the 2nd planking off of my Harvey. I am about to start again. Edited July 9, 2013 by Floyd Kershner Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
guitarguy687 Posted July 16, 2013 Author #20 Posted July 16, 2013 Well the hull is planked, roughly. Literally just glued down one of the last planks, and it hasn't seen any sanding yet at all. It needs some very good sanding and some good wood filler. As this hull is painted and plated I was able to be a little less picky with the planking, and I know I am still going to get an amazing result. The hull will look much better the next time you see it. Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
guitarguy687 Posted July 22, 2013 Author #21 Posted July 22, 2013 Ok, well that is chapter 5. All the planking, sanding, etc is all finished. Painted the black on the outside, and then I decided that I wanted to paint the gun port area above the wales rather then stain it. So I ended up with Spar Black and H. Cream on the outside (both model shipways paint). The bulworks and inside of the gun ports are all going to be paint color Bright Red (also model shipways paint). The deck I am planning on staining a very light natural, I haven't settled on a stain yet for the deck. Here are some pictures in her current state. I really need to find a better working vice or mount. Any recommendations? Next onto finishing up the stern, then bulworks, and decking. rvchima and Chuck 2 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
russ Posted July 22, 2013 #22 Posted July 22, 2013 Thomas: The paint work looks very good. I like the colors. Russ guitarguy687 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
ZyXuz Posted July 22, 2013 #23 Posted July 22, 2013 nice paint work on the hull she'll look better when the bulwark is done too guitarguy687 1 Quote Visit My Blog! http://malaysiamodelship.blogspot.com/ Previous Build: HMS Race Horse (Sergal) Current Build: HMS Unicorn (Corel)
fnkershner Posted July 22, 2013 #24 Posted July 22, 2013 Thomas - Have you decided what you are going to use for wood on the deck? Are you going to replace the kit supplied wood? Looks great by the way. As to the vise question have you looked at the Amati Planking vice? I use mine almost all the time. I like it much better than the Model Expo solution. Thiers is all wood and doesn't work nearly as well. guitarguy687 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
rvchima Posted July 24, 2013 #25 Posted July 24, 2013 Your Syren is looking great Thomas. I like your well-used building board too! Did you take painting lessons from Jackson Pollock? At this stage you don't really need a vise anymore. Make a stand with a cradle or a couple of brass pedestals and just use that. Quote Rod Current Build - HMS Sphinx, 20 Gun Frigate from 1775 Previous Builds Bismarck, WWII German Battleship, Prinz Eugen, WWII German Heavy Cruiser (Aeronaut), U-Boat 47 (Amati), HM Bark Endeavour (Caldercraft), US Brig Syren (MS), Arno XI Ferrari Hydroplane (Amati), Osberg Viking Ship (Billings), Anteo Harbour Tug (Panart), Marie Felling Harbour Tug (Caldercraft), Arleigh-Burke guided missile destroyer (Bluejacket) Seguin, Steam Tug from 1884, Mississippi Steamboat Robert E. Lee (Amati)
fnkershner Posted July 24, 2013 #26 Posted July 24, 2013 Another approach I like is an old sock. Before you die laughing. let me explain - Take an old sock, preferably a large one and fill it about 1/2 full with rice. Close the end with a zip tie or something similar. If you had 2 of these you would have your own customer cradle for very cheap. You can get the rice to mold to just about any shape you need. guitarguy687 1 Quote Current Builds - 18th Century Longboat, MS Syren Completed Builds - MS Bluenose, Panart BatteStation Cross section, Endevour J Boat Half Hull, Windego Half Hull, R/C T37 Breezing Along, R/C Victoria 32, SolCat 18 On the shelf - Panart San Felipe, Euromodel Ajax, C.Mamoli America, Its a sailor's Life for me!
guitarguy687 Posted July 30, 2013 Author #27 Posted July 30, 2013 Your Syren is looking great Thomas. I like your well-used building board too! Did you take painting lessons from Jackson Pollock? At this stage you don't really need a vise anymore. Make a stand with a cradle or a couple of brass pedestals and just use that. My board has been used for many many years! Maybe I should put it on ebay? A little abstract art lol!!! Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
captainscott Posted July 31, 2013 #28 Posted July 31, 2013 Very nice, looking great! Quote Working on : Shrimpboat Built: Bounty Launch
guitarguy687 Posted August 7, 2013 Author #29 Posted August 7, 2013 The bulwarks are finished and painted. Cap rail is finished. Put the deck planking down, tree nailed, and stained. Need to do a little paint touch ups. I have stamped all the copper plates, and now am in the process of cutting them all out. fnkershner, rvchima, Dubz and 1 other 4 Quote -Thomas "If you want to build a ship, don't drum up people to collect wood and don't assign them tasks and work, but rather teach them to long for the endless immensity of the sea." "A man without a goal is like a ship without a rudder." Current Builds: U.S. Brig Syren - Model Shipways 18th Century Longboat - Model Shipways Future Builds: Armed Virginia Sloop - Model Shipways Hannah, Ship in a Bottle - Amati Taurus Steam Towboat - Model Shipways Mayflower - Model Shipways 18th Century Sea Mortar - Model Shipways Completed Builds: HMS Victory Cross Section - Corel Sir Winston Churchill Sailing Ship - Billings Boats Naval Smoothbore Deck Cannon - Model Shipways
Tigerdvr Posted August 16, 2013 #30 Posted August 16, 2013 I'm glad to see someone else going the paint job like the original, I was getting lonesome. Enjoy Blueskippy 1 Quote Cheers, Harley<p Under Construction: USS Yorktown CV-5 1/200 by Trumpeter Completed: USS Curtis Wilbur DDG-54 1/200 by ILoveKit USS Atlanta CL-51 1/350 by Very Fire Liberty Ship John W. Brown 1/350 by Trumpeter HMS Spiraea K-08 1/350 USS Arizona BB-39 1/200 by Trumpeter/Mk1 Design HMS Sir Gareth 1/350 by Starling Models USS Missouri BB-63 1945 1/350 by Joy-Yard, 9/11/21 USS Indianapolis CA-35 1945 1/350 by Trumpeter USS Kidd DD-661, 1945, 1/350, on The Sullivans kit by Trumpeter USS Alaska CB-1, 1/350, Hobby Boss, Circa 2/1945 US Brig Syren 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood Started, On Hold: Frigate Confederacy 1/64 Model Shipways, Wood
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