Marty2 Posted January 29, 2021 #1 Posted January 29, 2021 Hello hobbyists. I am brand new to this hobby and cant wait to get started. Most hobby shops and suppliers are not overly helpful in my experience, so I am delighted to find this forum. I am looking for some guidance on a couple questions. 1. First project... this is what I am planning.... comments/suggestions? https://www.modelerscentral.com/ship-model-kits/starters-packs/port-jackson-schooner-1803-starters-pack/ 2. Books and literature. Any suggestions for books to help me learn the hobby? 3. Tools, glues, accessories. Any suggestions on what glues, tools, accessories that I should have on hand to get started? Thank you so much for any guidance and assistance you can provide. JeffT, bruce d and Keithbrad80 3 Quote
Duanelaker Posted January 30, 2021 #2 Posted January 30, 2021 Welcome to the site! I personally would start smaller unless you have some experience. I’ve built a few smaller models in the last few years and that one looks like it’s tough! Best of luck on whatever you decide, but my advice is start small, invest less, and enjoy! mtaylor, JeffT, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote David Builds in Progress: Phantom Pilot Boat - MS Completed Builds: Bounty Jolly Boat - AL Chesapeake Bay Crabbing Skiff - MW Grand Banks Dory - Bluejacket The Dinghy - MW Grand Banks Dory - MW 32 Pound Carronade - MS Skiff - MW Peterboro Canoe - MW On Hold: 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull - NRG Ponte Berlin - Corel Taurus Steam Towboat - MS
Nirvana Posted January 30, 2021 #3 Posted January 30, 2021 Hi Marty and welcome to MSW. If you haven't built any wooden ships I like to suggest to go NRG's shop and buy the halfhull. This kit will give you a lot of needed skills for more advanced models. Signing up as a NRG member will also give you 20% discount of the model. Well worth the money. Keithbrad80, Keith Black, Ryland Craze and 2 others 5 Quote Please, visit our Facebook page! Respectfully Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS Viking funeral: Harley almost a Harvey Nautical Research Guild Member - 'Taint a hobby if you gotta hurry
JeffT Posted January 30, 2021 #4 Posted January 30, 2021 Welcome to MSW. Take a look here for some good information: https://thenrg.org/resource/articles mtaylor 1 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard
Keithbrad80 Posted January 30, 2021 #5 Posted January 30, 2021 Welcome to MSW! I second the half hull, it’s not a first rate ship of the line, but it’s an excellent first model that will help you tremendously! It should teach you the basics of planking and hull construction which is what gets first time builders to give up or lose interest all the time. If that doesn’t interest you, Model Shipways, offers a really nice selection of first time builds that prepare you for more extreme builds! Good luck and most importantly have fun! Bradley Duanelaker, Ryland Craze and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Builds: Flying Fish - Model Shipways - 1:96 Future Builds: Young America 1853 - Scratch Build - 1:72 Completed Builds: HMS Racehorse - Mantua - 1:47 (No pictures unfortunately) Providence Whale Boat - Artesania Latina - 1:25 (Also no pictures) Lowell Grand Banks Dory - Model Shipways - 1:24 Shelved Builds: Pride of Baltimore 2 - Model Shipways - 1:64 (Also no pictures)
bolin Posted January 30, 2021 #6 Posted January 30, 2021 Welcome to MSW! I started ship modelling a little more than a year ago. The first kit I ordered was Billing Boats Will Everard, by the look of it about the same level of complexity as the one you have found. Due to some mix up at the place where I ordered it from it was delayed, but I was eager to get started so I went to a local hobby shop and bought Bluejackets Swampscott Dory. This is a much simpler kit, and in hindsight I'm happy that I started with that. The Billings was sold as a "beginners kit", but in reality it requires some experience. However, that is mostly due to the very brief instructions in Billings kits. The kit you have found looks very different in that regard, which should help a beginner tremendously. There are other suppliers that also offers starter packs, for example OcCre, but the subjects are not always historically accurate. The one you have found seem to be, which is good. I too wanted to find books to read when I started building. I bought several, but in the end it was here at MSW that I found what I needed. At lest for my first builds. Now I have progressed to scratch builds, and the need for reference literature is greater. Regarding tools, glues and accessories you will find several threads here at MSW going deep into all these topics. Personally I quickly got several types of glues, as they are good for different materials and assemblies. For wood I use aliphatic resin (yellow carpenters glue) and ordinary white PVA glue. For metal and metal to wood I use super glue (CA) or epoxy, depending on how strong the bond needs to be. As for tools, the general advice is to start simple, and add when you know what you need. There are several threads on the topic, and articles in the article section of this site. mtaylor, Ryland Craze and Duanelaker 3 Quote Current builds Meta - Billing Boats - Pentikontoros - Navarino Completed builds Swampscott Dory - BlueJacket - Will Everard - Billing Boats - Bohuseka (Swedish west-coast rowboat) - scratch build - Medieval long-ship Helga Holm - scratch build - Sloop from Roslagen - scratch build
Marty2 Posted January 30, 2021 Author #7 Posted January 30, 2021 Thanks everyone for your kind advice, I won't ignore it. Much appreciated. Duanelaker and mtaylor 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted January 30, 2021 #8 Posted January 30, 2021 Welcome to MSW, Marty. If you'll go to the top of this area, you'll find this: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/13703-for-beginners-a-cautionary-tale/ along with several other pinned posts to help you on your way. Also, each section has pinned posts. For example, in the Kit Builds area, there post on how to set up a log, etc. I hope this helps. Keith Black, Duanelaker, Ryland Craze and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Louie da fly Posted February 1, 2021 #9 Posted February 1, 2021 You might also like to check out this thread - a good one for the first-time builder. And when you do start, make sure to make a build log - the instructions are here A great way to get help and advice - and encouragement (when it all seems too much). And - welcome to MSW! Steven mtaylor and Ryland Craze 2 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
bruce d Posted February 2, 2021 #10 Posted February 2, 2021 Welcome to MSW. Regards, Bruce mtaylor 1 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold
Marty2 Posted February 2, 2021 Author #11 Posted February 2, 2021 Lots of good advise, thanks again. I am from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. There are no shops or stores that carry ship models and tools here. Can someone advise me on where (on-line) that I can get a good selection of tools that are moderately priced? Hope this question is allowed on here. Ryland Craze and mtaylor 2 Quote
Bob Cleek Posted February 2, 2021 #12 Posted February 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Marty2 said: Lots of good advise, thanks again. I am from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. There are no shops or stores that carry ship models and tools here. Can someone advise me on where (on-line) that I can get a good selection of tools that are moderately priced? Hope this question is allowed on here. Odds are, Canada is no better than most everywhere else. The economics of internet marketing has pushed a lot of the "brick and mortar" stores out of business and the online retailers are pretty much the only game in town if you don't have a dedicated hobby shop close by. You can get a good idea of what tools and supplies are available from these two internet retailers: https://modelexpo-online.com/ and https://www.micromark.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9cKInpjM7gIVIz2tBh0FlwgqEAAYASAAEgLtU_D_BwE However, "buyer beware," many of their offerings are priced higher than they might be found elsewhere and, as for tools, may be of lower quality than professional grade tools that will last two or three lifetimes. Watch for sales and discount codes (some of which are available by clicking on the advertisers' logos on this forum's home page.) Other good sources of tools are commercial jewelers' supply houses and surgical and dental instrument supply houses. mtaylor and Ryland Craze 2 Quote
mtaylor Posted February 2, 2021 #13 Posted February 2, 2021 Hi Marty, If you'll go here the the database: https://thenrg.org/resource/articles there's an article on Basic Tools in the Materials/Tools area. Unless you're a tool-holic like many of us (yep, I seem to be one also) only buy tools after the basics as you need them. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Ryland Craze Posted February 2, 2021 #14 Posted February 2, 2021 Marty, Welcome to Model Ship World. Another source of tools and supplies are craft stores like Hobby Lobby and Michaels. mtaylor 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
CRob Posted February 13, 2021 #15 Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) On 2/2/2021 at 4:43 PM, Marty2 said: Lots of good advise, thanks again. I am from Calgary, Alberta, Canada. There are no shops or stores that carry ship models and tools here. Can someone advise me on where (on-line) that I can get a good selection of tools that are moderately priced? Hope this question is allowed on here. Marty here's the 2021 catalog PDF. I'm a very beginner at this but this forum has been very helpful. f2135ec59d2fa86b3ac514548b0da22dcc201a9a.pdf Edited February 13, 2021 by CRob mtaylor and AON 2 Quote Current Builds: Snipe by CRob -Dumas #1122- Small Sailboat by CRob - Dumas #1007 - small
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