Egilman Posted February 10, 2022 #1 Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) Ok, here we go, ROUND 2!!! Bluejay 4, the Iconic Starfighter as seen in The Star Trek Episode "Tomorrow is Yesterday" I call it round two cause most are familiar with the last time I tried this and failed to finish cause I basically didn't know what I was doing when trying to get an accurate Bare Metal Finish... By the time I finally burned out on it and had to quit I had learned how other great modelers did it and am now going to try again... Old Thread here... This time with a more modern version of the F-104C (latest Italeri kit) and I acquired the Eduard "Big Ed" photoetch set for this one... I still haven't decided what view I'm going to do with this model, I know it's going to represent the real aircraft though, but I think I'm going to put more details into this much improved kit that the previous Hasegawa kit would allow... Instead of the roll-out scramble view I was doing I'm going to do the full detail version like she is being maintained ready for the call to get the Enterprise... At least, that's the plan.... Anyways, I'm preparing for this one... It's going to be a long journey and of course since this is a real airplane with a real history I will go into parts of it's service history and it and it's pilots tragic ending... F-104C #57-0914 A great airplane with a great pilot... More when I get organized... Onwards Edited February 12, 2022 by Egilman Added link to old topic king derelict, ccoyle, FriedClams and 10 others 13 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
king derelict Posted February 11, 2022 #2 Posted February 11, 2022 Looking forward to this Egilman. I have a Vampire in the pile that needs a bare metal finish and I haven't a clue so I will be all attention here Alan Canute, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote
Canute Posted February 11, 2022 #3 Posted February 11, 2022 Oh boy, a shiny Zipper. Looking forward to this build, EG. Egilman, popeye the sailor, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
Old Collingwood Posted February 11, 2022 #4 Posted February 11, 2022 Me thinks you are gonna get Alot of attention with this build brother - bring it to us "we are stocked up @mtaylor has a brand new shinny Pop Corn machine - and the rest are sharing around the liquid stuffs"☺️ OC. Jack12477, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 4 others 1 6 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #5 Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) On 2/10/2022 at 5:10 PM, king derelict said: Looking forward to this Egilman. I have a Vampire in the pile that needs a bare metal finish and I haven't a clue so I will be all attention here Alan Now the pressure is on, {chuckle} I'll do my best, if I do it right it should look something like this.... Hasegawa... Or this, Original Italeri... Two different models, two different modelers... Both used the same product to produce that finish... There is a third as well (did a CF-104) This finish cannot be replicated with paint... Actually I'm going to go straight into the build with this one... I'll add a link to the old build to make the connection with the history... Your vampire will really look the business with this type of finish on her... I sincerely hope Alan, I can show it correctly, to a certain point this is still an experiment, my second attempt... But, if they could do it, I can do it... Edited February 12, 2022 by Egilman Jack12477, Canute, Edwardkenway and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #6 Posted February 12, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 6:00 PM, Canute said: Oh boy, a shiny Zipper. Looking forward to this build, EG. Thanks Ken, hopefully it turns out better than the last one.... On 2/10/2022 at 8:13 PM, Old Collingwood said: Me thinks you are gonna get Alot of attention with this build brother - bring it to us "we are stocked up @mtaylor has a brand new shinny Pop Corn machine - and the rest are sharing around the liquid stuffs"☺️ OC. I don't know about that one brother, everyone is welcome of course... just take it easy on the liquids ok? and don't forget to share the popcorn... I added rafters to the building so those that like to hang out up there can be more comfy... mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #7 Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) Now, just like most modern model airplanes, the Italeri kit starts with the seat.... As you can see, from the last build I did an aftermarket Lockheed C-2 ejection seat for that build and fortunately I saved it for this build.... Unfortunately I could not save the cockpit itself, if we remember I had to completely rebuild it to fit the aftermarket into the fuselage... Trying to save it would have destroyed it... So here, we start with the Cockpit... And the actual cockpit tub... Beautifully modeled details and a lot more accurate than the old Hasegawa cockpit was, but to add the photoetch, all that detail has to be sanded off so the panels will glue into correct positions... Here we go brothers, first steps down the path.... Wish me luck.... EG Edited February 12, 2022 by Egilman Jack12477, Edwardkenway, Canute and 10 others 13 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Edwardkenway Posted February 12, 2022 #8 Posted February 12, 2022 I'm in, a bit late, but a couple of hammocks in the rafters and some nut brittle! I'm glad you're revisiting this plane EG, looking forward to the new edition, with the enhanced bare metal finish. Onwards indeed😉 mtaylor, Jack12477, FriedClams and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #9 Posted February 12, 2022 Actually, Right on Time Brother.... Just putting first glue to brass & plastic... Welcome, lay back, relax and enjoy the journey.... Old Collingwood, mtaylor, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #10 Posted February 12, 2022 First update, Installing the base brass for the cockpit sidewalls.... Structural brass, not all of those parts will be used, the kit and brass is designed to allow the building of an "A" model if you so choose... To do that you have to modify the cockpit tub by cutting out the floor... That red square, designated for removal, we are building the "C" variant so no need to cut, but the pink areas needed to be sanded away to accommodate the photoetch (PE) details to be installed... For example the left cockpit wall... (with it's magazine holder) Installed... I'm using Extreme power thin CA to attach these, had the dickens of a time getting it placed correctly before it set, it's been a while since I did any serious PE work... The passenger side... (with it's magazine holder as well, chuckle) Now all we need is a coat of Aircraft Grey paint and we will be ready for the side control panels.... Onwards Brothers... EG FriedClams, ccoyle, oneslim and 9 others 12 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Danstream Posted February 12, 2022 #11 Posted February 12, 2022 One of the most aesthetically beautiful aircraft in a senior scale, I will be also following, if you don't mind. Great start with the cockpit. Side walls with magazines look spot on. Kind regards, Dan Canute, Edwardkenway, FriedClams and 5 others 8 Quote Current build : Mayflower - AL 1:64, Lady Nelson - Amati Victory 1:64 Completed non-ship builds : Spitfire MK I - 1:48, Arado 196B - 1:32, Sea Fury - 1:48, F-15C Eagle - 1:48, Hawker Tempest Mk.V - 1:48, F104S Starfighter - 1:48 "The most effective way to do it, is to do it" - Amelia Earhart
ccoyle Posted February 12, 2022 #12 Posted February 12, 2022 18 minutes ago, Danstream said: One of the most aesthetically beautiful aircraft Maybe so, but one with an appalling accident rate. From the Wikipedia entry: "The cumulative destroyed rate of the F-104 Starfighter in USAF service as of 31 December 1983 was 25.2 aircraft destroyed per 100,000 flight hours. This is the highest accident rate of any of the USAF Century Series fighters. By comparison, the cumulative destroyed rates for the other Century Series aircraft in USAF service over the same time period were 16.2 for the North American F-100 Super Sabre, 9.7 for the McDonnell F-101 Voodoo, 15.6 for the Republic F-105 Thunderchief, and 7.3 for the Convair F-106 Delta Dart.[166] By comparison, the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) experienced an overall loss rate of 11.96 per 100,000 flying hours with the Dassault Mirage III, losing 40 of 116 aircraft to accidents over its 25-year career from 1965 to 1989." Edwardkenway, FriedClams, Egilman and 4 others 4 3 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #13 Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Danstream said: One of the most aesthetically beautiful aircraft in a senior scale, I will be also following, if you don't mind. Great start with the cockpit. Side walls with magazines look spot on. Kind regards, Dan Thanks Dan, Your welcome anytime.... I agree she is one of the most beautiful aircraft ever built and flown... king derelict, FriedClams, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 12, 2022 Author #14 Posted February 12, 2022 2 hours ago, ccoyle said: Maybe so, but one with an appalling accident rate. From the Wikipedia entry: "The cumulative destroyed rate of the F-104 Starfighter in USAF service as of 31 December 1983 was 25.2 aircraft destroyed per 100,000 flight hours. This is the highest accident rate of any of the USAF Century Series fighters. By comparison, the cumulative destroyed rates for the other Century Series aircraft in USAF service over the same time period were 16.2 for the North American F-100 Super Sabre, 9.7 for the McDonnell F-101 Voodoo, 15.6 for the Republic F-105 Thunderchief, and 7.3 for the Convair F-106 Delta Dart.[166] By comparison, the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) experienced an overall loss rate of 11.96 per 100,000 flying hours with the Dassault Mirage III, losing 40 of 116 aircraft to accidents over its 25-year career from 1965 to 1989." Yeah she did have some not so nice nicknames, "Widowmaker" "Lawn Dart" and several others... The wing loading was particularly high on this bird, heck it was made for speed in the interceptor role not as a fighter bomber... It's had a couple of bad habits and one of which the only recovery was to bail out... But it was the ride everyone wanted to fly... Old Collingwood, Canute, king derelict and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
ccoyle Posted February 12, 2022 #15 Posted February 12, 2022 I was an exchange student in West Germany in '79-'80. Franz Josef Strauss, the West German Minister of Defense at the time the Bundesrepublik made their F-104 purchase, was still politically active at the time and still haunted by the rumors that Lockheed had greased the skids of the sale with some bribe money. I don't think that anything was conclusively proven, but then rumors don't need corroboration to be damaging. The fact that so many Luftwaffe Starfighters were lost in accidents certainly didn't help Strauss's public image. Canute, Egilman, FriedClams and 4 others 7 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
king derelict Posted February 13, 2022 #16 Posted February 13, 2022 There used to be a running joke in Germany back then. How do you get your very own Starfighter? Answer Buy a field and wait. Alan ccoyle, Egilman, Edwardkenway and 6 others 3 6 Quote
Canute Posted February 13, 2022 #17 Posted February 13, 2022 We said the same thing about the F-16 early on. Had some air start problems; the high AOAs (angles of AttacK0 they could generate, cut off the air entering the engine inlet. If the one burning ain't turning, it's a blivet and crashes. Reusing the kit cockpit bucket should ensure the nose area will have minimal fit issues. Watching with great interest, EG. Edwardkenway, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
FriedClams Posted February 13, 2022 #18 Posted February 13, 2022 I’ve pulled up a seat to follow along. Looks like a really nice kit and I’m sure you’ll make a terrific job of it. I am especially interested in seeing the bare metal rendering as I’ve never done anything like it myself. Best of luck on this new project Egilman. Gary Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build Pelican Eastern-Rig Dragger Completed Scratch Builds Rangeley Guide Boat New England Stonington Dragger 1940 Auto Repair Shop Mack FK Shadowbox
Old Collingwood Posted February 13, 2022 #19 Posted February 13, 2022 The history of the Starfighter is Amazing - I love that it was chosen to be the SR71 Blackbird chase plane. OC. mtaylor, Edwardkenway, king derelict and 4 others 7 Quote Current builds 28mm Battle of Waterloo attack on La Haye Saint Diorama. 1/700 HMS Hood Flyhawk with PE, Resin and Wood Decking. Completed works. Dragon 1/700 HMS Edinburgh type 42 batch 3 Destroyer plastic. HMS Warspite Academy 1/350 plastic kit and wem parts. HMS Trafalgar Airfix 1/350 submarine plastic. Black Pearl 1/72 Revell with pirate crew. Revell 1/48 Mosquito B IV Eduard 1/48 Spitfire IX ICM 1/48 Seafire Mk.III Special Conversion 1/48 Kinetic Sea Harrier FRS1
lmagna Posted February 13, 2022 #20 Posted February 13, 2022 19 hours ago, Edwardkenway said: I'm in, a bit late, but a couple of hammocks in the rafters and some nut brittle! Favorite location, favorite lounge furniture, one of my favorite aircraft, FAVORITE FOOD! You have company Edward........... Hope you are willing to share the brittle! I have to wait until early March for my stock! mtaylor, Egilman, popeye the sailor and 6 others 4 5 Quote Lou Build logs: Colonial sloop Providence 1/48th scale kit bashed from AL Independence Currant builds: Constructo Brigantine Sentinel (Union) (On hold) Minicraft 1/350 Titanic (For the Admiral) 1/350 Heavy Cruiser USS Houston (Resin) Currant research/scratchbuild: Schooner USS Lanikai/Hermes Non ship build log: 1/35th UH-1H Huey
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2022 #21 Posted February 13, 2022 14 hours ago, Old Collingwood said: The history of the Starfighter is Amazing - I love that it was chosen to be the SR71 Blackbird chase plane. OC. Probably at the time, it was one of the few planes that could keep up with a Blackbird during the testing. Egilman, Canute, popeye the sailor and 4 others 7 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Canute Posted February 13, 2022 #22 Posted February 13, 2022 It had a J79 GE engine, same as the F4 and A5 Vigilante. Heck of a lot less iron around it. Great acceleration. FriedClams, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #23 Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 5:38 PM, Canute said: We said the same thing about the F-16 early on. Had some air start problems; the high AOAs (angles of AttacK they could generate, cut off the air entering the engine inlet. If the one burning ain't turning, it's a blivet and crashes. Reusing the kit cockpit bucket should ensure the nose area will have minimal fit issues. Watching with great interest, EG. Yep, the F-104 had HAoA issues as well but they were more from the configuration of the wings, they eventually put a warning stick shaker on it and then a force return to keep the aircraft within it's flight envelope to prevent stalls, but pilots routinely disabled it... When the F-104 went into a stall, it usually did one of two things, started tumbling, or flat spinned... Both unrecoverable conditions... The first pilot to experience it was Chuck Yeager in the XF-104 he crashed from flight level 22.... He reported that the aircraft dropped like a anvil and there was no aerodynamic control from the control surfaces... He spent six months in the hospital recovering from the ejection experience.... The Air Force eventually made 1500 flight hours in supersonic aircraft a requirement to become a zipper pilot.... Thanks Brother, not having to rebuild the cockpit tub is a bonus with this one... Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, FriedClams and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #24 Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 8:33 PM, FriedClams said: I’ve pulled up a seat to follow along. Looks like a really nice kit and I’m sure you’ll make a terrific job of it. I am especially interested in seeing the bare metal rendering as I’ve never done anything like it myself. Best of luck on this new project Egilman. Gary Welcome Gary, It's a gorgeous kit and the PE looks great as well... the finish I'm hoping comes out like the others show there are... Praying I don't muck this one up as well.. Thank you... Old Collingwood, popeye the sailor, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #25 Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) On 2/12/2022 at 8:58 PM, Old Collingwood said: The history of the Starfighter is Amazing - I love that it was chosen to be the SR71 Blackbird chase plane. OC. It was a revolutionary aircraft when first built, pushing the edge of the envelope of aircraft engineering... Nasa flew several of them for decades as a research aircraft.... It really was a manned missile... It was chosen as the chase plane for a number of experimental aircraft including the XB-70... And when they did the highspeed runs with the experimental's, the starfighter was usually the last chase plane left behind... Welcome aboard Brother... Edited February 14, 2022 by Egilman Canute, Edwardkenway, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #26 Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 9:52 PM, lmagna said: Favorite location, favorite lounge furniture, one of my favorite aircraft, FAVORITE FOOD! You have company Edward........... Hope you are willing to share the brittle! I have to wait until early March for my stock! Welcome aboard brother, I made sure there was room up there for you... I'm sure the goodies will be passed around with abundance in a bit.... And the brittle? At least I won't be shelled again.... {chuckle} Enjoy my friend... mtaylor, Canute, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #27 Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, mtaylor said: Probably at the time, it was one of the few planes that could keep up with a Blackbird during the testing. Yep, until the Phantom II came along.... To be completely candid there were only two other aircraft ever built that could keep up with an A-12/SR-71 at speed... The MiG 31, and the XB-70... and as far as the MiG 31 went, SR-71 pilots said all they would have to do is push the throttle a little closer to the firewall.... Edited February 14, 2022 by Egilman Old Collingwood, Edwardkenway, popeye the sailor and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #28 Posted February 14, 2022 16 hours ago, Canute said: It had a J79 GE engine, same as the F4 and A5 Vigilante. Heck of a lot less iron around it. Great acceleration. It was the first axial flow turbojet that wouldn't compressor stall in transition from sub-sonic to supersonic speeds... it was a revolution in engine tech... Also, depending on aerodynamic condition and throttle commands, the stators in the compressor would change their pitch automatically maintaining smooth airflows while increasing the volume of air almost instaneously... The built this capability to stop compressor stall which it did in all except the most extreme conditions, solved the aerial restart problem as well... What they didn't expect and surprised the heck out of them was the instant thrust response it gave them... Most jet engines have a delay between throttle up and thrust increase, it takes a bit of time for the compressor to spin up faster and deliver the increased airflow.... Variable stators in the compressor altered that to next to nothing.... instead of waiting five seconds for the increased thrust on throttle up, the increase in thrust was right there, now, almost immediately..... And yeah it wasn't carrying a B-17's worth of bombs slung under it's belly either... Canute, popeye the sailor, Edwardkenway and 2 others 5 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Egilman Posted February 14, 2022 Author #29 Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Ok, short update... Decided to take a break on the tub PE and see what I was going to do with the Instrument panel... the Tub was easy to clean the detail molding from and although nice was a bit soft on the details... the Instrument panel on the other hand is extremely detailed, clean and crisp with deep details not easily removed... The debate I had was do I actually want to try to remove it or build a new instrument panel to accommodate the PE, (which looked flat in comparison to the moulded in detail) or detail paint the existing.... I figured it would probably be best to first see what the status of my ancient 5/0 brush skills were... This is what the real instrument panel looks like.... And this is my attempt to replicate that in paint.... My attempt to detail paint... Please, I would like to know what you guys think, remembering that it's going to be inside a cockpit and under the Hud shroud... Edited February 14, 2022 by Egilman Old Collingwood, mtaylor, popeye the sailor and 6 others 9 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Canute Posted February 14, 2022 #30 Posted February 14, 2022 EG, it's good to go, bud. Side panel decals(?) look very good. Instrument panel is very good. Too bad it will be almost hidden in your cockpit. Bet you're crossed-eyed from that detailing job. What's on the radar screen? It has that appropriate green glow of 50's CRTs. Nicely done. 👍👍 king derelict, popeye the sailor, Egilman and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild
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