Al Litchfield Posted March 2, 2023 #1 Posted March 2, 2023 I was recently "gifted" with a ship model with the hope I would be able to do some restoration on it which as can be seen is rather extensive. As far as I can determine, it is about 40+ years old. I have tried searching for something similar but without success. It measures about 36" in length and about 24" from keel to top of the masts. The name plate on the four-masted is "Fullerton." The square sails on the foremast and triangular on the other three masts is a setup I have not seen before. if anyone has some clues to offer about this model, I would certainly be most appreciative. VitusBering, Edwardkenway, Harvey Golden and 3 others 6 Quote
Dave_E Posted March 2, 2023 #2 Posted March 2, 2023 Hey Al, welcome to the forum! 👍😀 mtaylor, Keith Black, VitusBering and 2 others 5 Quote Dave Current builds: Rattlesnake Completed builds: Lady Nelson On the shelf: NRG Half Hull Project, Various metal, plastic and paper models
VitusBering Posted March 2, 2023 #3 Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) I did a Google search for four-masted barkentine Fullerton. I found a number of articles referencing the Fullerton - a court filing detailing a collision between a freight car ferryboat named Transit and the Fullerton, which is described as a four-masted barkentine 235 feet in length in this article and as a ship of the same configuration acting as an oil freighter operated by Union Oil in another article. The articles hint at available images but I didn't go very far down the rabbit hole. The court document is very interesting reading. Oh, and welcome aboard! Edited March 2, 2023 by VitusBering Edwardkenway, Keith Black, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Cutty Sark by VitusBering - Revell - 1:96 - Redux -- Darryl
Keith Black Posted March 2, 2023 #4 Posted March 2, 2023 Al, welcome to MSW. Nice model. Glad to have you aboard. VitusBering, mtaylor and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Jim Lad Posted March 2, 2023 #5 Posted March 2, 2023 Hello Al, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. That looks a model well worth restoring. John VitusBering, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote
Baker Posted March 2, 2023 #6 Posted March 2, 2023 seems like a challenging model to restore mtaylor, Keith Black, VitusBering and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
druxey Posted March 2, 2023 #7 Posted March 2, 2023 Welcome aboard, Al. Looks like a worthwhile model to restore/conserve. Keith Black, VitusBering, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
Knocklouder Posted March 2, 2023 #8 Posted March 2, 2023 Keith Black, Edwardkenway, VitusBering and 1 other 4 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
ccoyle Posted March 2, 2023 #9 Posted March 2, 2023 Welcome aboard, Al! As Vitus mentioned, your model is a four-masted barkentine (sometimes spelled barquentine), a ship that is square-rigged on its foremast and fore-and-aft rigged on the remaining masts. It is quite likely a scratch-built model, perhaps built by a former crew member or someone who was familiar with her (would be nice to know, wouldn't it?), which means it's a one-of-a-kind model and definitely worthy of restoration. Some of our members are knowledgeable about this kind of work and will be able to give you some guidance. Cheers! Keith Black, VitusBering, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
HardeeHarHar Posted March 2, 2023 #10 Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) Welcome to Model Ship World Al, the virtual motherlode of knowledge and guidance with respect to ship models. That is one interesting project you have on hand. It sounds like some reference material is available for you to mine for information. Please start a build log if you endeavor to proceed with the restoration so we can learn more about the history of this interesting vessel. Best regards! Edited March 2, 2023 by HardeeHarHar VitusBering, Edwardkenway and Keith Black 3 Quote Brian Current Builds: HMBV Granado 1/64 Caldercraft; HMS Sphinx 1775 by HardeeHarHar - Vanguard Models 1:64-V2 Completed Build: HMS Bounty's Jolly Boat 1/25 Artesania Latina; Master Korabel - 1:36 Yefin Nikonov's Secret Vessel On the Shelf: HMBV Granado 1/48 CAF Model
mtaylor Posted March 2, 2023 #11 Posted March 2, 2023 Welcome to MSW, Al. That looks to be a excellent project of a rare model. Feel free to open a Restoration log in the Scratch Area. By doing that, you might get more info and also help as needed and we get to watch. Keith Black and VitusBering 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Al Litchfield Posted March 2, 2023 Author #12 Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) A big thank you to VitusBering. Using several search machines, I have come up with some history and documents on this ship. Still trying to find where she may have been built but the journey is just getting more interesting. I will definitely start a log to record what I find. Sorry, not sure why the above is in boldface. Tried to change it but no go. Edited March 2, 2023 by Al Litchfield mtaylor, VitusBering, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote
Al Litchfield Posted March 2, 2023 Author #13 Posted March 2, 2023 Just another quick question. How and where do I start a log? Is it through the website or just on my own? Keith Black, Edwardkenway and mtaylor 3 Quote
Jaager Posted March 2, 2023 #14 Posted March 2, 2023 As Chris suggests, the discipline that you should consider following is to repair and restore this model to its launch state as closely as possible. It should also be given a protective case. Any impulse to do "improvements" should perhaps be given to a new scratch build of another model. HAMMS has plans for a 1902 four masted barkentine with spars and rigging plans as well as lines. The price of copies from The S.I. is fairly low. mtaylor, Edwardkenway and Keith Black 3 Quote NRG member 50 years Current: NMS HMS Ajax 1767 - 74-gun 3rd rate - 1:192 POF exploration - works but too intense -no margin for error HMS Centurion 1732 - 60-gun 4th rate - POF Navall Timber framing HMS Beagle 1831 refiit 10-gun brig with a small mizzen - POF Navall (ish) Timber framing The U.S. Ex. Ex. 1838-1842 Flying Fish 1838 pilot schooner - POF framed - ready for stern timbers Porpose II 1836 brigantine/brig - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers Vincennes 1825 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers assembled, need shaping Peacock 1828 Sloop-of -War - POF timbers ready for assembly Sea Gull 1838 pilot schooner - POF timbers ready for assembly Relief 1835 packet hull USN ship - POF timbers ready for assembly Other Portsmouth 1843 Sloop-of-War - POF timbers ready for assembly Le Commerce de Marseilles 1788 118 cannons - POF framed La Renommee 1744 Frigate - POF framed - ready for hawse and stern timbers
mtaylor Posted March 2, 2023 #15 Posted March 2, 2023 Here's how to do a log... https://modelshipworld.com/forum/160-read-before-you-start-your-scratch-build-log/ Edwardkenway and Keith Black 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Al Litchfield Posted March 2, 2023 Author #16 Posted March 2, 2023 My apologies, jaager. Who are HAMMS and S.I. ? Keith Black, mtaylor and Edwardkenway 3 Quote
VitusBering Posted March 2, 2023 #17 Posted March 2, 2023 Sorry to butt in -- HAMMS is the Historic American Merchant Marine Survey. They're a branch of the Smithsonian Institution (that's the S.I. part). https://sova.si.edu/record/NMAH.AC.0240 https://americanhistory.si.edu/archives The Institution is a great resource. Jaager, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Current build: Cutty Sark by VitusBering - Revell - 1:96 - Redux -- Darryl
Al Litchfield Posted March 3, 2023 Author #18 Posted March 3, 2023 Thanks, VitusBering. Hadn't come across that acronym before. Edwardkenway, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote
Edwardkenway Posted March 3, 2023 #19 Posted March 3, 2023 and welcome to MSW. It would be nice to see what you do with the model. Jack12477, mtaylor, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 - on hold HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64 - FINISHED Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - FINISHED Providence whaleboat- 1:25 - FINISHED Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED
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