Haliburton Posted April 7 #1 Posted April 7 (edited) So following from the Big Bertha build I’m moving in the opposite direction with this WW1 build. The tiniest of tanks. Originating in 1917 as a prototype it was put into service by France in March, 1918 and by November of that same year 3530 had been produced. Quite a remarkable production effort, mind you, as I said, this beastie is tiny! Interestingly FT-17s were used by 27 countries including the US, China, and the Soviet Union and served in multiple conflicts including both world wars as well as the Russian civil war. It had a nickname ‘the mosquito’ with the idea I believe that these little units could ‘swarm’ the enemy. I think my biggest challenge with this build will be the tiny parts. Some photos of the real thing below. Scott Edited June 8 by Haliburton GrandpaPhil, Canute, DocRob and 4 others 7 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Haliburton Posted April 8 Author #2 Posted April 8 A preview of the kit itself DocRob, Jack12477, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Baker Posted April 8 #3 Posted April 8 Nice. The tanks in picture one are post WW1. I think Estland or Lithuania. Egilman, Canute, Haliburton and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Haliburton Posted April 8 Author #4 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Baker said: I think Estland or Lithuania Patrick I checked the Wikipedia reference and you are right - Lithuania in 1925. Here is a shot of them in Manchuria 1932 with the Japanese. This must have been quite a revenue generator for Renault - these tanks ended up pretty much everywhere. Jack12477, Egilman, Old Collingwood and 5 others 8 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Baker Posted April 8 #5 Posted April 8 Indeed, I think the Japanse had a different machine gun. I have some books about the ft17 Canute, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Egilman Posted April 8 #6 Posted April 8 (edited) 7 hours ago, Baker said: I think Estland or Lithuania. 1st pic, Lithuania postwar... 2nd pic, Patton in France 1918 3rd pic, From NARA it is titled as, "French Renault tank with American crew Sgt. Edward White and Cpl. Edward J. Elliot, Military Road near Cigarette Butte, France." They wound up everywhere postwar cause they were the most successful design to come out of the war... They have all the features of a modern tank... And the ideas of how to correctly use them in combat came directly out of the brain of one Lt Colonel of the US army named George S Patton Jr.... I believe a couple of them were last found in a military dump in Iraq during Desert Storm.... Edited April 8 by Egilman Old Collingwood, Haliburton, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Haliburton Posted April 8 Author #7 Posted April 8 A small start on the interior. Landlubber Mike, DocRob, GrandpaPhil and 7 others 10 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Egilman Posted April 9 #8 Posted April 9 If you going to open up the turret? you will want to take the white interior back to the rear rivet line, maybe even farther if your going to rotate the turret... The Turret has relatively large doors and when open, you can see all of the turret interior and quite a bit of the hull interior... It's a very nice Kit and can be built into a very nice example of an FT-17 of most any era... Baker, GrandpaPhil, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Haliburton Posted April 9 Author #9 Posted April 9 2 hours ago, Egilman said: If you going to open up the turret? you will want to take the white interior back to the rear rivet line, maybe even farther if your going to rotate the turret... The Turret has relatively large doors and when open, you can see all of the turret interior and quite a bit of the hull interior. I’m not certain but it’s a great suggestion - I thought white was an odd interior colour but maybe it was intended to make things as visible as possible? Old Collingwood, Canute, Jack12477 and 2 others 5 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
GrandpaPhil Posted April 9 #10 Posted April 9 (edited) On an off white on many interior compartments is a pretty common practice because it does help to brighten up the work space a little bit and improve visibility. Edited April 9 by GrandpaPhil Egilman, king derelict, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
NavyShooter Posted April 9 #11 Posted April 9 I ran across a pair of these at a Naval Base in Norway 25 years ago. They were in *rough* shape back then when the NATO fleet dropped in for a visit. I wonder if they've done anything with them since then. It was up near Bergen. Neat build! Canute, Haliburton, mtaylor and 3 others 6 Quote Brad/NavyShooter Build Log: HMS Blackpool - 1/144 3D Print RC Build Log: HMCS Bonaventure- 1/96 - A Fitting Out Completed Build: RMS Titanic - 1/100 - 3D Print - Pond Float display Completed Build: HMCS St Thomas - 1/48 - 3D printed Bens Worx Completed Build: 3D Printed Liberty Ship - 1/96 - RC A slightly grumpy, not quite retired ex-RCN Chief....hanging my hat (or helmet now...) in the Halifax NS area.
Haliburton Posted April 10 Author #12 Posted April 10 11 hours ago, NavyShooter said: I ran across a pair of these at a Naval Base in Norway 25 years ago. They were in *rough* shape back then when the NATO fleet dropped in for a visit. Very interesting Brad, I googled to see what I could find and I did find some YouTube videos that purport to show ft-17s the Germans left on the coast. There were other images of the the turrets having been incorporated by the Germans into the Atlantic wall NavyShooter, mtaylor, Jack12477 and 3 others 6 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Baker Posted April 10 #13 Posted April 10 5 hours ago, Haliburton said: Very interesting Brad, I googled to see what I could find and I did find some YouTube videos that purport to show ft-17s the Germans left on the coast. There were other images of the the turrets having been incorporated by the Germans into the Atlantic wall Old tank turrets used on bunkers https://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=14464 Jack12477, Old Collingwood, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Egilman Posted April 10 #14 Posted April 10 (edited) The Germans captured a large number of French vehicles in 1940, they used them for security and police service... (as well as bunker armaments) They were known as the Panzerkampfwagen FT-17/18 730(f) in Wehrmacht service... The Germans never let anything go to waste..... And we captured a few of them back at the end.... Edited April 10 by Egilman Old Collingwood, NavyShooter, Landlubber Mike and 7 others 10 Quote Current Build: F-86F-30 Sabre by Egilman - Kinetic - 1/32nd scale In the Garage: East Bound & Down, Building a Smokey & the Bandit Kenworth Rig in 1/25th scale Completed: M8A1 HST 1930 Packard Boattail Speedster M1A1 75mm Pack Howitzer F-4J Phantom II Bell H-13's P-51B/C Temporary Suspension: USS Gwin DD-433 F-104C Starfighter "Blue Jay Four" 1/32nd Scale Terminated Build: F-104C Starfighter ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Relish Today, Ketchup Tomorrow"
Haliburton Posted April 13 Author #15 Posted April 13 So I’m hijacking my own thread, but as a side build I’ve been working on a Canadian LAV 3. This is from trumpeter. Here is the finished product. I was impressed with the quality of this kit. I did not apply the decals which were used in Afghanistan. Scott Jack12477, Egilman, Landlubber Mike and 6 others 9 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
wefalck Posted April 15 #16 Posted April 15 By accident I chanced upon this YouTube film again last night: https://youtu.be/6QMtyl8aycI?si=9dMvRd8OdXucNWSK Egilman, Jack12477, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux
Haliburton Posted May 5 Author #17 Posted May 5 Well, it’s been a while since my last update. Lots of things going on in my household - including an open house for the happy occasion of my mother’s 90th birthday 🎂. I’ve found this build to be challenging because of the small parts and the instructions being less clear than I’d like. The bevelled edges that need to be glued are also a bit tricky to stabilize as the glue sets. Here’s a photo of my current progress. Thanks for looking in, Scott mtaylor, king derelict, Baker and 6 others 9 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Haliburton Posted May 17 Author #18 Posted May 17 Some additional progress on the turret, main gun and exterior armour ~ as an extra bonus my son is spending time on the adjacent workbench working on his Lego x-wing. Boy Lego has come a looong way since the 70s and 80s (and also way more expensive!). The x-wing has a 315 page instruction manual! Scott GrandpaPhil, mtaylor, Egilman and 3 others 6 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
wefalck Posted May 17 #19 Posted May 17 😲 I remember the excitement when around my 6th birthday this time 62 years ago Lego came up first with wheels. Several family members gave me wheel sets - a bit boring, but then you couldn’t have enough of them. I think Lego went down a contraproductive avenue educational wise, but perhaps not revenue wise … looking forward to more progress on the Renault … Egilman, Haliburton, Jack12477 and 5 others 8 Quote wefalck panta rhei - Everything is in flux
Baker Posted May 19 #20 Posted May 19 nice work on the ft 17 Indeed, a long time ago, Lego was stimulating to develop and build something yourself. Nowadays you just have to follow the drawn instructions step by step. boring for us older generation (my opinion😪) king derelict, Haliburton, mtaylor and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
mtaylor Posted May 19 #21 Posted May 19 3 hours ago, Baker said: Indeed, a long time ago, Lego was stimulating to develop and build something yourself. Nowadays you just have to follow the drawn instructions step by step. boring for us older generation (my opinion😪) I thought that's why they were developing those kits? For us older types.... king derelict, Jack12477, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 3 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Haliburton Posted May 26 Author #22 Posted May 26 A little bit of progress made over the past few weeks on the gears and tracks and in putting together the diorama base that comes with this kit. I’m wondering if they included a base because the tank itself is so small that it needs elevation. A minor annoyance with this kit is that the numbering on the spruces is printed in the same tan colour as the parts and so one must check and recheck part numbers often because of the glare of the working light makes it difficult to see the numbers. My son has finished his lego x wing, leaving me behind in the galactic dust 😆 Scott Canute, wefalck, DocRob and 7 others 10 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Haliburton Posted June 2 Author #23 Posted June 2 A little bit of progress in painting - both the tank and start on base colours on the diorama stand. Jack12477, GrandpaPhil, DocRob and 7 others 10 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Haliburton Posted June 8 Author #24 Posted June 8 Some additional progress on weathering. At this point I’ve not added decals. Given how many different countries used the FT-17 I’m think I will portray it in a more generic manner. I have some touch-ups and additional weathering to do but will call it complete for purposes of this log. Thanks so much for the comments and likes everyone. Scott Canute, Baker, mtaylor and 8 others 11 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Baker Posted June 8 #25 Posted June 8 A very nice diorama, Congrats Egilman, Old Collingwood, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
Haliburton Posted June 8 Author #26 Posted June 8 1 hour ago, Baker said: very nice diorama, Congrats Thanks so much Patrick. mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Canute and 3 others 5 1 Quote Currently building: HM Yacht Chatham - 1:64 - Caldercraft
Landlubber Mike Posted July 9 #27 Posted July 9 Just catching up with your log now. Really nice job! Haliburton, Jack12477, Canute and 4 others 7 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
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