Long9Ron Posted March 15, 2013 #61 Posted March 15, 2013 It depends of the width of the planks. For the planking of the hull I found: if the planks are less 8'' width there is one treenail, if the planks have a width greater than 11'' there are 2 treenails For the deck planking I found the following: Planks less than 6'' width one treenail, all other two treenails. (Source: Wolfram zu Mondfeld, Historische Schiffsmodelle) Perhaps someone can verify this with another source. That's good information to have Christian. Thanks. It is going in my Things to Know Database. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me
sonicmcdude Posted March 15, 2013 #62 Posted March 15, 2013 Nice build you got there Larry! Keep the pictures coming! Greetings, Sinan Build log:TRITON POB 1:72
rummy Posted March 16, 2013 Author #63 Posted March 16, 2013 Thank You Christan,Ron,and Sinan.I decided to use only one treenail per frame as it fits my skill level. So heres a picture of my porcupine and half the treenails in. The toothpicks were stained with strong tea. Thanks again for all your support. Larry sonicmcdude 1 With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
rummy Posted March 31, 2013 Author #64 Posted March 31, 2013 Hello,I have been busy re-doing parts of the build.The lower deck looked out of place with out the treenails so I re planked it and got a little more of the outside planking finished. I hope you have a pleasent Easter. Larry mtaylor 1 With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Pete38 Posted March 31, 2013 #65 Posted March 31, 2013 Rummy that is looking real nice. Good job on going back and redoing...treenail the lower deck.... if it did not look right to you, it would have bothered you for the rest of the build. Good going And Happy Easter Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
bbrockel Posted March 31, 2013 #66 Posted March 31, 2013 WOW, you are flying along with your Triton Cross section. Very clean work. "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
augie Posted March 31, 2013 #67 Posted March 31, 2013 Just thought I'd stop by and say 'Hi' to my darkside friends. Everyone seems well but Holy Hedgehog, what is that picture???!!!!!! You folks all have a great Easter and keep cranking out the fine work. Augie Current Build: US Frigate Confederacy - MS 1:64 Previous Builds : US Brig Syren (MS) - 2013 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Greek Tug Ulises (OcCre) - 2009 (see Completed Ship Gallery) Victory Cross Section (Corel) - 1988 Essex (MS) 1/8"- 1976 Cutty Sark (Revell 1:96) - 1956
Long9Ron Posted March 31, 2013 #68 Posted March 31, 2013 Larry Your Cross Section is looking great. That's a lot of treenails, eh. Eh, is because I'm from Canada Eh. I like the color of the outer planking. Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me
AnobiumPunctatum Posted April 1, 2013 #69 Posted April 1, 2013 What kind of timber do you use for the lower hull? Is it holly? Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
Boccherini Posted April 1, 2013 #70 Posted April 1, 2013 Larry, it's good to see some more progress. Congrats on reworking the stuff that you weren't happy with, it's a good attitude to have. Did you change the gun deck beam pillars? The ones in a previous picture seemed fancier. Regards, Grant.
Paddy Posted April 1, 2013 #71 Posted April 1, 2013 Great progress Larry. Looking very good! 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
Matrim Posted April 1, 2013 #72 Posted April 1, 2013 All credit to those who treenail the outer hull. As I was copper plating I did not. Joss ...
rummy Posted April 2, 2013 Author #73 Posted April 2, 2013 Thank you Pete,Bob,Augie,Ron and Paddy.Nice group of builders we have. Grant. yes I did change the pillars the ones I took out were way to thin and were factory made.The new ones I made myself.You are a very sharp observer. Christan,no it is just basswood Painted to look like tallow. Josh, it is harder to copper plate and do it right than to treenail.Mine only has half the treenails as it should have. Thanks Every one Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
mtaylor Posted April 2, 2013 #74 Posted April 2, 2013 Larry, Looking super. I like the "heavier" pillars myself. And I promise not tell anyone about the "half of the treenails" because they look like they belong where they are. Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
rummy Posted April 9, 2013 Author #75 Posted April 9, 2013 Hello Everyone,I have been slowly moving along. Sometimes one step foward and two steps back.I hope I have covered up all my mistakes.I tried a little weathering of the decks. Best Regards to All and onward over the cliff. Larry Pete38 and Rustyj 2 With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Paddy Posted April 9, 2013 #76 Posted April 9, 2013 Top drawer Larry. You're doing a grand job! 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
Pete38 Posted April 9, 2013 #77 Posted April 9, 2013 Really like the weathering on the decks Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
rafine Posted April 9, 2013 #78 Posted April 9, 2013 Very nice looking deck, Larry. Bob Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
rummy Posted April 10, 2013 Author #79 Posted April 10, 2013 Thanks everyone for the kind words.I was dreading the metal work from day one. I started it and found out I worried for nothing.Here is how I did it.I did the bends with 2 pair of needle nose pliers.I next glued the pieces together with CA..Next I soldered with tin lead solder,sanded,primed and painted.Seems very strong.Well only 7 more to do,I must remember that" Pride Comes Before the Fall" Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Rustyj Posted April 10, 2013 #81 Posted April 10, 2013 They sure looks great to me! How about making about 80 more for everyone else! Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout
Long9Ron Posted April 10, 2013 #82 Posted April 10, 2013 Larry It looks great. What metal is that? Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me
Pete38 Posted April 10, 2013 #83 Posted April 10, 2013 They sure looks great to me! How about making about 80 more for everyone else! Make mine just a weeee bit bigger please. Looking good Triton Cross Section 1:32 SEE YA LATER
rummy Posted April 12, 2013 Author #84 Posted April 12, 2013 Thank you Josh, Rusty,Ron, and Pete. Rusty I have put my elves to work and we will have 80 by Christmas. Ron,It is brass. Pete I know yours need to be bigger.I have called the steel yard and will have the steel delivered.I have also ordered an arc welder.Yours may be a little longer wait. Sometimes I laugh at my own jokes. I also tried making some tacked together with super glue then re-enforced with epoxy. This was an easer way.I did this in case I do the the full model. As you can see below I also made my wife a lovely pair of earrings. OK, I will stop for now. Larry Rustyj, Pete38, augie and 1 other 4 With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
bbrockel Posted April 12, 2013 #85 Posted April 12, 2013 You missed your calling, Larry. Very nice metal work. "I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate " Current builds: H.M.S. TRITON Cross Section by Bbrockel - Scratch Build - Scale 1:48 US Brig Syren by Bbrockel - Model Shipways -Scale 1:64
Paddy Posted April 12, 2013 #86 Posted April 12, 2013 Outstanding Larry! I'll sure try to duplicate these when I reach that point. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
harvey1847 Posted April 13, 2013 #87 Posted April 13, 2013 Really nice Larry! Another Blacksmith in the house. What kind of torch did you use to make them? Is just me or all of us arround use glasses or lens for the hobby?... Cheers! Daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
rummy Posted April 13, 2013 Author #88 Posted April 13, 2013 Thank you Paddy,Bob,and Daniel. Daniel I used a small soldering iron about 35 watts in power.On the last ones I used "CA" to tack them together then re-enforced with epoxy.Easier and cleaner. Larry With Age Comes Wisdom,I'm Still Waiting! Current Builds:Syren.Triton Cross section. Completed Builds: Virginia by AL King of the Mississippi by AL Constellation by AL
Paddy Posted April 13, 2013 #89 Posted April 13, 2013 On the last ones I used "CA" to tack them together then re-enforced with epoxy.Easier and cleaner. Larry Thanks Larry, I'll sure give that a try. 1st Year Apprentice :mellow: A new member of the NRG as of 8/28/13 Work in Progress - Triton 28 Gun Frigate Cross Section
Long9Ron Posted April 13, 2013 #90 Posted April 13, 2013 Beautiful work Larry Might be a stupid question, but can that flat brass metal be purchased somewhere and if so what size is it? Ron Current Build: H.M.S. Triton Cross Section 1:48 Why is it that I always find out the best way to do something is after I have already done it the wrong way? - Me
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