Nick 843 Posted October 11 #1 Posted October 11 Hi to all. Just joined here and want to introduce myself. Vanguard's Indefatigable arrives today, so that's a major reason for me joining, although I also have a couple of non-wood ship models on the go. I do a fair amount of non-wood modeling: plastic and resin, and including aircraft and armor. I also do some non-model woodworking stuff. None of this is meant to suggest that I'm good at it BTW. As far as Indefatigable is concerned, it will be my first wood model. So yes, I'm an enthusiastic noob who has overreached in terms of skill level, which is cautioned against in a post I read the other day about choosing your first ship model. I've seen the stats, but I'm going in aware of the challenge and betting that I'll see it through; feel free to lay your own bets on it LOL. I grew up on Hornblower and Aubrey and the period's history. I came across the Indy kit when a YouTube vid popped up about a week ago; by a YouTuber with the moniker Modelkit Stuff who did a full unboxing video. The kit looked amazing. I checked it out a bit more and bought it within a day or so. Anyway, I'm not thinking this will be a breeze. I bought in the knowledge that I have a serious learning curve on any number of aspects but it will be a while before I get to the first of them, so I can learn (at least in theory) in the meantime. I figure, on going through the construction manual (which is terrific) for a second time now (and slower than the first jump through), that I can get to around step 126 before hitting anything totally unfamiliar. In saying all of this and the last part in particular, I sure don't want to sound arrogant. I know the learning curve will be steep in various areas, and I'm sure I'll hit some difficulties and be scratching my head more than a few time, never mind the aspects as to which I'm completely ignorant. For steps 1-125, I only mean that those steps involve stuff that is generally familiar, with the exception that the medium is wood rather than plastic or resin; I don't mean that I dismiss it all as simple. If I get through them there will still be 821 steps for me to mess up, not to mention masting and rigging. I don't know what my timeline will be, although with Winter not far off and outdoor activities already tapering off, I'll have plenty of time between now and next Spring (not saying I'll necessarily finish by then). Cheers everyone. Nick 843 JacquesCousteau, Harvey Golden, Baker and 9 others 12 Quote
CPDDET Posted October 11 #2 Posted October 11 Welcome aboard! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current build: NRG Half Hull Previous build: MS Bluenose
Ronald-V Posted October 11 #3 Posted October 11 Welcome! And have fun with this enormous monster the quality of the kit looks great. As a beginner, one of the biggest challenges is the shear amount of work building a ship of this magnitude implies, and how to deal with that. Personally I think the difficulty is quite steep yes, but as you already discovered...the manual is really good and Chris his designs are really great. But...I wish you a lot of succes with this one You can always pause the build and do a small ship in between, to refine you're skills... would that be nessecary. Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Currently working on the HMS Sphinx from Vanguard Models
ccoyle Posted October 11 #4 Posted October 11 Welcome aboard, Nick, from the author of the post you referenced! As I wrote in that post, it is not unheard of for a newcomer to our hobby to finish a project on the order of Indy, but it is rare. Nevertheless, you sound like you are well aware of the challenge ahead, and you will find as much help as you need here at MSW. Good luck on your project! P.S. You'll see in their signatures that many of our members also dabble in modeling subjects other than ships! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, DS Børøysund
Nick 843 Posted October 11 Author #5 Posted October 11 Thanks all of you for your welcomes! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Knocklouder Posted October 11 #6 Posted October 11 Bob M. Keith Black 1 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 , Amati } Hannah Ship in a Bottle:Santa Maria : LA Pinta : La Nana : The Mayflower : Viking Ship Drakkar The King Of the Mississippi Artesania Latina 1:80 Current Build: Royal Yacht, Duchess of Kingston-Vanguard Models
Baker Posted October 11 #7 Posted October 11 Keith Black 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum
GrandpaPhil Posted October 11 #9 Posted October 11 Welcome! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Building: 1:200 Russian Battleship Oryol (Orel card kit) 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships)
Keith Black Posted October 11 #10 Posted October 11 Nick, welcome to MSW. Glad to have you aboard. mtaylor 1 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration
Dan Poirier Posted October 11 #11 Posted October 11 Welcome! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Current projects: HM Armed Cutter Sherbourne, NRG's 18th-Century Merchantman Half-Hull Planking Kit Completed projects: Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Norwegian Sailing Pram, Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack
Nick 843 Posted October 11 Author #12 Posted October 11 Thanks GrandpaPhil, Keith Black, and Dan Poirier! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
hamilton Posted October 11 #13 Posted October 11 Welcome (or should I say bienvenue!) Nick! I'm jealous of your Indy - such a beautiful kit! hamilton Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch) previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit); HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS Greyhound; Fair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851); Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch) under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy
Glen McGuire Posted October 11 #15 Posted October 11 Welcome aboard, Nick! I hope that you will create a build log for this epic adventure so we can follow along. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Current builds: BlueJacket Constitution Repair & Build Flying Dutchman/Black Pearl Pirates of the Caribbean SIB Gallery: Mamoli CSS Alabama; Amati Hannah-SIB; Charles W Morgan-SIB; Aurora-SIB; Independence-SIB; Zheng He Treasure Fleet-SIB; Adventure Galley-SIB; Oseberg/Kraken-SIB; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw-SIB; Wa'a Kualua-SIB; Ghost Ship Jenny-SIB; Banshee II-SIB, Completed build logs: Alabama; Hannah; Morgan; Aurora; Independence; Zheng He Treasure Fleet; Captain Kidd's Adventure Galley; Oseberg/Kraken; Roman Quinquereme/Archimedes' Claw, Wa'a Kualua, Ghost Ship Jenny; Banshee II
Nick 843 Posted October 11 Author #16 Posted October 11 Thanks Glen! A maybe at this point on a build log. I wouldn't want anyone thinking that I have any experience or knowledge in wooden ships to offer. But then again maybe a sort of abbreviated log identified as coming from a newbie on particular issues. We'll see. Keith Black, mtaylor and Ronald-V 3 Quote
Ian_Grant Posted October 11 #17 Posted October 11 Great kit, though formidable. All the best for this kit, and hoping to see a build log! (Go Habs Go!!!) Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote
Thukydides Posted October 11 #19 Posted October 11 Welcome Nick 5 hours ago, Nick 843 said: Thanks Glen! A maybe at this point on a build log. I wouldn't want anyone thinking that I have any experience or knowledge in wooden ships to offer. But then again maybe a sort of abbreviated log identified as coming from a newbie on particular issues. We'll see. You should still do one. It is the best way to get help as you go along. I also personally found the practice of documenting my build kept me motivated when I got bogged down in the middle. The help and feedback I got on my log made my first model way better than it ever could have been had I just done it on my own. As others have said you have picked a lot of ship for your first build and I would still advise you to pick something smaller to try first (Vanguard has some really nice cutters). But at the end of the day you need to be interested in your subject or you will never finish it. Good luck. mtaylor, Ian_Grant, Keith Black and 1 other 4 Quote Current Builds: HMS Perseus (Scratch) Completed Builds: Type VII C U Boat (HobbyBoss); HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models)
Ian_Grant Posted October 12 #20 Posted October 12 3 hours ago, Thukydides said: Welcome Nick You should still do one. It is the best way to get help as you go along. I also personally found the practice of documenting my build kept me motivated when I got bogged down in the middle. The help and feedback I got on my log made my first model way better than it ever could have been had I just done it on my own. Good luck. Thukydides is right. You will get all kinds of help from other members if you log it. Keith Black, mtaylor and Thukydides 3 Quote
mtaylor Posted October 12 #21 Posted October 12 Keith Black 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
Nick 843 Posted October 12 Author #22 Posted October 12 Thanks Thukydides, Ian, and mtaylor! Good points about a build log, and had been thinking on it also, and guess I will do one. Unpacking the box and organizing just now. Day 1 of building should be tomorrow. mtaylor, Keith Black and Thukydides 3 Quote
Stuka Posted October 12 #23 Posted October 12 Welcome Nick! Quite a daunting task ahead I can imagine but I will eagerly watch it. And good luck for you will surely need it 🙂 Keith Black 1 Quote Kind regards Robin Current build Vanguard Models HM Armed Cutter Sherbourne 1:64
SiriusVoyager Posted October 13 #24 Posted October 13 Good luck on the build! Welcome to MSW! mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote - Eric Current build: Sultan Arab Dhow Finished: Norwegian Sailing Pram, Lowell Grand Banks Dory, Muscongus bay lobster smack, OcCre Palamos, San Francisco Cross Section
Nick 843 Posted October 13 Author #25 Posted October 13 Thanks Robin and Eric! mtaylor, SiriusVoyager and Stuka 3 Quote
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