aliluke Posted February 18, 2013 #1 Posted February 18, 2013 Hi all, Thought I'd reload my photo files of my AVS build. Hopefully useful for someone contemplating or making this great model. No words to go with the files but feel free to fire me a question if you wish. Cheers, Alistair Ryland Craze, themadchemist, olliechristo and 2 others 5 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
aliluke Posted February 18, 2013 Author #2 Posted February 18, 2013 Hi More photos. Cheers Alistair CaptainSteve, Captain Slog, themadchemist and 5 others 8 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
aliluke Posted February 18, 2013 Author #3 Posted February 18, 2013 More... Pygothian, themadchemist, olliechristo and 4 others 7 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
aliluke Posted February 18, 2013 Author #4 Posted February 18, 2013 This will be the last lot. Cheers Alistair Pygothian, themadchemist, jdbradford and 11 others 14 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
aliluke Posted February 18, 2013 Author #5 Posted February 18, 2013 Just a couple more... Cheers Alistair GuntherMT, CaptainSteve, Blackie and 11 others 14 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
rdsaplala Posted February 18, 2013 #6 Posted February 18, 2013 Nice to see your AVS log restored to it's full glory, Alistair, beautiful work as always Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo
j21896 Posted February 18, 2013 #7 Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) Man Alistair, you really did a fabulous job with her! And those rope coils look just amazing! Cheers, Robert PS. Oh, and do get some nice photos of her up in the completed models gallery! Edited February 18, 2013 by j21896 Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
Modeler12 Posted February 18, 2013 #8 Posted February 18, 2013 Good to see you back Alistair. Your Sharon is a prize to behold. I assume she has a prime spot in you beautiful home. Just make sure the cat cannot get to it. Jim and I have been going back and forth about this new format and how to insert pictures along with the text. I still have some problems. Perhaps my brain is catching up with my old age. Quote Jay Current build Cross Section USS Constitution http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10120-cross-section-forward-area-of-the-uss-constitution/ Finished USS Constitution: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/103-uss-constitution-by-modeler12/ 'A picture is worth a . . . . .' More is better . . . .
Ryland Craze Posted February 18, 2013 #9 Posted February 18, 2013 Alistair,Glad to see your AVS build log back online. As I said on MSW 1.0, this has to be one of the best crafted Armed Virginia Sloops that I have ever seen. Your build log will definitely help those of us that are still building the AVS. The pictures of your AVS on this new version of MSW show way more detail than what was on the old version of MSW. Thanks for posting them. Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
KenW Posted February 18, 2013 #10 Posted February 18, 2013 As someone in the middle of building the AVS, I wish I had access to the full blog, with your comments. I found your comments to be as valuable as the practicum. Thanks. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
BANYAN Posted February 19, 2013 #11 Posted February 19, 2013 Great to see you back Alistair along with your repost of this fine build; as you say, a great reference for others building this kit. You did a great job with her. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
fish Posted February 24, 2013 #12 Posted February 24, 2013 I'm really looking forward to starting this build, I hope mine turns out as nice as yours. Aaron Quote “The World is a book, and those who do not travel read only a page.” - Augustine Current Build: Artesania Latina San Francisco II 1:90 Scale On the Shelf: Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop 1:48 Scale
Ryland Craze Posted February 26, 2013 #13 Posted February 26, 2013 Alistair, I am sorry to hear of the loss of all of your pictures and files when your computer crashed. I am glad these pictures got posted to MSW before your PC failure. I just want to let the AVS builders know that you will be there to comment on their build logs and offer them encouragement and guidance. You have been inspirational and motivating on my AVS build and I appreciate it. You have a lot to offer these AVS builders and I thank you for your support. Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat
BareHook Posted February 27, 2013 #14 Posted February 27, 2013 Hey Alistair, Is there any chance you can re-post the mini tutorial you created for rigging the anchor bouys? and also tyeing rigging line that you can slide it into position? Thanks Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred
42rocker Posted February 27, 2013 #15 Posted February 27, 2013 Have a kit and hope that it comes out as nice as your pics. Thanks for posting them again. Later 42rocker Quote Current Build -- Finishing a 1:1 House that I've been building for a while Current Build -- Triton Cross Section
aliluke Posted March 12, 2013 Author #16 Posted March 12, 2013 Hi Ken Just spotted your question...no I can't - all the photos of the build were lost when my hard drive failed. All my model files for the AVS and many other ships that I was researching and scheduling just disappeared. I'm only just starting to realise how much I lost, nothing compared to the MSW V1 crash though... I attach drawings of my memory of the process and a picture of the result on the finished ship. Best I can do I'm afraid. It is a cheats method but at this scale you can't even see knots this small in such rope. I think the rope was 0.25mm diameter. The bouy is about 10 - 12mm long. It is as close I can zoom in with my camera and an observant eye would see that my bouy rope has two cut ends...one too many. Cheers Alistair MarisStella.hr, themadchemist, CaptainSteve and 1 other 4 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
gerty Posted March 12, 2013 #17 Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Beautiful ! Amazing deck detail in addition to everything else - Terrific work and very nice pictures ! Edited March 12, 2013 by gerty Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters
BareHook Posted March 12, 2013 #18 Posted March 12, 2013 Alistair, Thanks for digging into your memory, we'll all be feeling the loss for a while. I was lucky that most of my pictures were on the server at my work, but don't tell my boss . Ken Quote Current Build: Authentic Hannah Kit Bash Pending Continuation: Sea of Galilee Boat Completed Build: MS AVS On Shelf: AL Independence, Blue Jacket Alfred
Timothy Wood Posted March 12, 2013 #19 Posted March 12, 2013 Very, very, good job! This kit is a pleasure to look at, Great Workmanship! Tim Quote Tim Current Build: Future Build: BlueJacket - USS Kidd (Fletcher Class Destroyer) Solid Hull BlueJacket - U.S.S. SAMUEL B. ROBERTS, DE413 | Butler-Class Destroyer Escort BlueJacket - 310' Destroyer "The famous "four-piper" of both World Wars" Model Shipways - Pride of Baltimore II (Topsail Schooner) Model Shipways - Willie L. Bennett (Chesapeake Bay Skipjack) Constructo - Pilar (Ernest Hemingway's Fishing Yacht) Sergal - Race Horse (Bomb Ketch) Classic Warships - USS Salem CA-139 (Heavy Cruiser) Resin Kit Pen Duick Schooner - Half Hull (Scratch Build) CSA Submarine Hunley (Resin Kit) Classic Warships - USS Washington BB-56 (Battleship) Resin Kit Blue Ridge Models - USS Alaska CB-1 (Resin Kit) Completed Builds: 18th Century Sea Mortar Endeavour Half Hull by BlueJacket Ship Crafters Scratch Build - Atlantic (Schooner 1903) Half Hull: Winner of the 1905 Kaiser's Cup Race. BlueJacket 80' ELCO PT Boat 1/48 scale Member: Hampton Roads Ship Model Society
j21896 Posted March 12, 2013 #20 Posted March 12, 2013 Hey Alistair, Sorry to hear about your "crash"! I hope your recovery isn't too painful. Nice to see shots of your AVS again -- that ropework is phenomenal! Cheers, Robert Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
BANYAN Posted March 12, 2013 #21 Posted March 12, 2013 Thanks for the update Alistair; as other have said, the level of finiosh is very good. I would also say that having to redo the research on your other projects would be twice as much fun but joking about such a 'painful' experience is not going to improve the situation I hope you eventually recover from your lost work, but at least the first time around will have provided you with some pointers as to what to follow-up and whatg not too. cheers Pat Quote If at first you do not suceed, try, and then try again!Current build: HMCSS Victoria (Scratch) Next build: HMAS Vampire (3D printed resin, scratch 1:350) Built: Battle Station (Scratch) and HM Bark Endeavour 1768 (kit 1:64)
st george Posted March 12, 2013 #22 Posted March 12, 2013 Fantastic looking ropework Alistair. Great build. David Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat
j21896 Posted March 23, 2013 #23 Posted March 23, 2013 Hi Alistair, A recent post in the forums regarding rope coils made me immediately think of your AVS, as your coils are so superbly done. How did you do them? Are they part of the actual line you belayed? Are they made separately off of the ship and then added following belaying? Please, do share your secrets to success Man Thanks, Robert CaptainSteve 1 Quote Current Build: HMS Mars
Timothy Wood Posted March 23, 2013 #24 Posted March 23, 2013 She's looking very nice! It's a pleasure to follow your build! Cheers, Tim Quote Tim Current Build: Future Build: BlueJacket - USS Kidd (Fletcher Class Destroyer) Solid Hull BlueJacket - U.S.S. SAMUEL B. ROBERTS, DE413 | Butler-Class Destroyer Escort BlueJacket - 310' Destroyer "The famous "four-piper" of both World Wars" Model Shipways - Pride of Baltimore II (Topsail Schooner) Model Shipways - Willie L. Bennett (Chesapeake Bay Skipjack) Constructo - Pilar (Ernest Hemingway's Fishing Yacht) Sergal - Race Horse (Bomb Ketch) Classic Warships - USS Salem CA-139 (Heavy Cruiser) Resin Kit Pen Duick Schooner - Half Hull (Scratch Build) CSA Submarine Hunley (Resin Kit) Classic Warships - USS Washington BB-56 (Battleship) Resin Kit Blue Ridge Models - USS Alaska CB-1 (Resin Kit) Completed Builds: 18th Century Sea Mortar Endeavour Half Hull by BlueJacket Ship Crafters Scratch Build - Atlantic (Schooner 1903) Half Hull: Winner of the 1905 Kaiser's Cup Race. BlueJacket 80' ELCO PT Boat 1/48 scale Member: Hampton Roads Ship Model Society
KenW Posted April 23, 2013 #25 Posted April 23, 2013 Your method of "bouy making" was very helpful. So I would like to ask for another trip down memory lane and your mothod for rigging the cannons. I had a log of trouble with the kit supplied rope being stiff. When I tried to fasten the blocks to the cheeks and hull, the rope would constantly "pull" them off. My rigging looks sloppy while yours looks tight and proper. Any help I can use of future models would be appreciated. Thanks. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
Geoff Matson Posted April 23, 2013 #26 Posted April 23, 2013 (edited) Hey Alistair Nice job on the AVS. Glad I found your build log. Edited April 23, 2013 by Geoff Matson Quote Geoff NRG member #2666Current build : USS Constitution Finished builds: Armed Virginia Sloop (in gallery)
aliluke Posted April 24, 2013 Author #27 Posted April 24, 2013 Thanks all, Just spotted your question Robert. I did the rope coils off the boat just coiled them around 2 metal spikes and painted them with diluted white glue (I'm sure this is illustrated in other logs). Of course you end up with three ends to the rope 2 on the coil and one more from the belayed line. You just have to position the coil to cover at least one of the ends. Ken - I think the difference is the rope you used. I used Morope which is very springy. The beauty of this is that it will look taut at a variety of tensions so you don't need to pull it very hard at all to get a taut appearance. This was especially useful for the shroud rigging and aligning the deadeyes thereon. I didn't pull out any eyebolts or hooks on the model during rigging and all the lines look tight and stay tight. Cheers Alistair themadchemist 1 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
KenW Posted April 24, 2013 #28 Posted April 24, 2013 Thanks. I am doing the rigging now (Chapter 9 in the practicum). Now I am worried since I am using the kit supplied rope. I will try morope on my next model. Thanks again. Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
aliluke Posted April 25, 2013 Author #29 Posted April 25, 2013 I wouldn't worry Ken - I've seen lots of logs with the kit rope and they came out great. Morope just makes it easier to tension in my opinion. It also has other characteristics which might make it harder to use...anyway it was my first rigging experience so I can't claim the high ground for the recommendation of any rope type! Cheers Alistair Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log)
KenW Posted April 26, 2013 #30 Posted April 26, 2013 I am using a hair straightener - set on low heat and only one pass - and the kit rope is behaving much better. I still like the look of the morope, however. Thanks for your help. Cheers Quote Ken NO PIRACY 4 ME! (SUPPORTING CHUCKS' IDEA) Current Build: Washington 1776 Galley Completed Builds: Pilot Boat Mary (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Boat Providence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Continental Ship Independence (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Rattlesnake (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build) Armed Virginia Sloop (from Completed Gallery) Fair American (from Completed Gallery) (from MSW Build Log) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Nautical Research Guild
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