Barbossa Posted July 7, 2013 Share #121 Posted July 7, 2013 Hi Ray, Whenever you’ll get to the fitting of the top deck, just a word of caution. There are 2 sorts of cavel cleats ( parts 114& 115 ) . The “open bulwark”-version might require to shorten the latter and the horizontal one seems necessary in the belaying plan. At least , if my understanding is correct. As you can see -in combination with the eyebolts for the rigging of the guns- it’s a bit narrow in that area. Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share #122 Posted July 7, 2013 Thanks Christian for the info I will keep that in the memory bank, I had it in mind some juggling with the rigging and gun tackle might have to take place and decided it was one of those bridges you have to cross when you get to it. Just finshed plating and fitting the rudder so main gun deck next. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaerschen Posted July 8, 2013 Share #123 Posted July 8, 2013 Your Diana is looking great Ray. I like the blend of colors. Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 12, 2013 Author Share #124 Posted July 12, 2013 (edited) The Rudder Now the hull coppering is complete the only plating left to do is copper plate the rudder, but before that it needed sanding down, tapering it to about 3mm. Coppering the rudder was probably the most fiddly part of all the coppering. When done the pintails were glued into position on the rudder I glued both parts on and then marked where they came on the keel post and then drilled it, then I added the straps to the rudder and cyano fix the rudder to the post and added the other straps to the hull, and to finish off painted the straps with copper paint. . First few plates on A few more plates added Plated and ready to fit Rudder completed Edited June 8, 2014 by Ray ahab1800, muratx, Barbossa and 6 others 9 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted July 12, 2013 Share #125 Posted July 12, 2013 Nice and neat Ray... fantastic! Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 13, 2013 Share #126 Posted July 13, 2013 Nice work Ray, it's very satisfying when it all comes together, well done mate. mobbsie Ray 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbrush Posted July 13, 2013 Share #127 Posted July 13, 2013 Wonderful job on the coppering Ray!! looks so great. Ray 1 Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted July 16, 2013 Share #128 Posted July 16, 2013 Hello Ray, Happy birthday I hope you have a wonderful day. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted July 16, 2013 Share #129 Posted July 16, 2013 Happy Birthday Ray Have a nice cool belgium and enjoy the day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 16, 2013 Share #130 Posted July 16, 2013 Hi Ray, Happy birthday mate, here's hoping you have a great day doing what you want to do. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted July 16, 2013 Share #131 Posted July 16, 2013 All the best. Have a great day and many, many, more birthdays. Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted July 16, 2013 Share #132 Posted July 16, 2013 Many happy returns Ray! Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st george Posted July 16, 2013 Share #133 Posted July 16, 2013 Happy Birthday Ray Hope you had a great day. Quote David Current Build : HMAV Bounty - Amati Next Build : 18th Century Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbrush Posted July 17, 2013 Share #134 Posted July 17, 2013 Hope you had a great birthday Ray! Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsaplala Posted July 17, 2013 Share #135 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Top notch work as always, Ray, the coppering and quartergalleries look fantastic! Edit: Oh my, I think I need new glasses as I have somehow missed the others' posts, Happy Happy Birthday, Ray, this calls for some champagne! Edited July 17, 2013 by rdsaplala Quote Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share #136 Posted July 17, 2013 Many thanks guys for all the birthday best wishes. I have started work on the guns for the main deck there is a lot of work involved with them I will post a interim update soon. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 18, 2013 Share #137 Posted July 18, 2013 I almost missed it... Happy Birthday, Ray. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaerschen Posted July 18, 2013 Share #138 Posted July 18, 2013 I also wish you a happy Birthday Ray. Ray 1 Quote Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jndepew Posted July 21, 2013 Share #139 Posted July 21, 2013 Ray, I've been working on Diana since 2002 or so, might say I'm a bit slow. As noted by so many others, you're doing a fantastic job. I wish you had started a few years earlier because there are a number of solutions you've invented that I could have used. It's been so long since I bought the kit that I have a question for you. How many plan sheets does your kit have? Mine has six and I'm wondering if there shouldn't be more. By the way, when you get there, there are errors on the mast and yard sheet (sheet 3). For example, the drawn lengths of the masts and spars don't match the actual dimensions in millimeters printed on the sheet. Look forward to hearing from you. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted July 22, 2013 Share #140 Posted July 22, 2013 I bought my Diana kit about 6 years ago and I too have only 6 sheets of plans. Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share #141 Posted July 22, 2013 Hi John & mort I bought my kit only about 7 months ago and it came with 6 sheets of plans. John I had a look at sheet 3 ( I am a long way off the masts) and as you say the drawing size and the size stated in mm do not match ??? I have the anatomy of ships Diana so will look into converting the 1/96 drawings into 1/64 ( there are some charts to help) and use that figure, I wonder which is correct the drawing or the size in mm, thanks for the heads up. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 28, 2013 Author Share #142 Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) The Gun Deck The guns I decided to try blackening the barrels rather than as in the previous builds painting them. 1st attempt I tried a blackening agent supplied by a well known model shop it was a complete failure after cleaning the test barrels I tried a 50/50 solution watched it and after 40 minutes nothing added the rest of the bottle and again after a further 30 nothing more than a slight discolouration. 2nd attempt this was with Birchwood Casey brass black, another failure, it did give a sort of blackening but it was very patchy and after washing it rubbed off. At this point I gave up with the blackening, re-cleaned up the test barrels and went back to my previous method, I used a matt black aerosol spray and did 6 at a time giving them 5 or 6 very light coats and selected the very best ones for the guns that will be seen although there were no bad ones. The carriages were made up using the jig as in the photo, painted and the rigging eyes, and rings added, I made them up in stages, and in-between working on them made up some of the deck fittings I find this a way of making the repetitious parts not tedious, I rigged the breech rope over the top to simulate it going through the cascable ring as shown in The Anatomy of Ships I fully rigged two guns and mounted them laying the breech rope as in the book, also this also allowed me to work out the position of the rope coils at the end of the tackle. Now back to assembling and rigging the rest of the guns. The axle jig Ready for the wheels and barrels Breech rope on Fully rigged Bulwark rings Rigging as in book Two guns mounted on the gun deck Edited June 8, 2014 by Ray mort stoll, mtaylor, jaerschen and 1 other 4 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted July 29, 2013 Share #143 Posted July 29, 2013 Those guns look good ray. Also the rope coils are looking neat so far. I've had the same issues with brass blackener but got it to work last time by cleaning the parts I acetone, then water, then dipping them ina water/ blackener mix that had been slightly heated first (microwave,but be careful) and then sat in a hot sink of water to keep it warm. It took a couple of goes to build up the blackness but it worked eventually. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share #144 Posted July 30, 2013 The side rails I masked at the top of the waist side rail and at the bottom of the sheer rail and painted royal blue in-between I the added the rails, making sure to leave spaces for the channels and fenders, I decided to leave the rest of the rails until after the top deck goes on, and I have worked out the position quarterdeck bulwark at how high it will be. Painted section Sheer rail going on Gap for channel Both rails on mort stoll, Timmo, Barbossa and 5 others 8 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamarvalley Posted July 30, 2013 Share #145 Posted July 30, 2013 Very nice Ray, great addition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarbrush Posted July 31, 2013 Share #146 Posted July 31, 2013 beautiful work on the sheer rail Ray! Quote John future build: to finish Mary Rose http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8507-mary-rose-by-tarbrush-scale-172-1545/?hl=%2Bmary+%2Brose completed builds: Constructo Steam Launch Louise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polux Posted August 1, 2013 Share #147 Posted August 1, 2013 Hi Ray Good to see you working again in a beautiful ship. Las I heard you were about to get a knee replacement, did you? If so, how do you feel with it? I found the gallery for your Pegasus and I most say you did a fantastic job,it is a fine ship. I just started mine a couple of weeks ago and I am loving it. Although for now I had to stop as I broke a hand and I can not do any work, It is kind of frustrating but no choice other than patiently weight. I just went through your log on the Diana and again you are doing great work. She looks beautiful. It will be nice to follow your log again. Best regards Polo Ray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted August 1, 2013 Share #148 Posted August 1, 2013 Hi Ray, She's looking real good mate, well done and keep it up. mobbsie Ray 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share #149 Posted August 1, 2013 Hi Polo My Knee replacement was carried out 5 months ago and it is going ok vey very painful at first but improving all the time, I can play 9 holes of golf now. One good thing is it has given me a lot more building time, even though some of it is when I cannot sleep (due to the knee). I hope your hand heals well so you can get back to Pegasus. fnkershner 1 Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ensign Posted August 1, 2013 Share #150 Posted August 1, 2013 Hi Ray, I have just bought the Diana kit and am currently trying to source a copy of the Anatomy of the ship Diana book, if you know where to get it could you let me know? I am also interested in the errors on the drawings, would you please post your findings once you clear this up. Thanks Gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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