Rao A.L.G. Posted December 5, 2014 Share #1 Posted December 5, 2014 Hi, This is my first post on my small boat build. I am a total novice - having inspired by great builds in MSW, I tried this Long Boat. I did not had any plans, followed some photos. No kits or to any scale. Totally scratch built. During the last eight months, this has given me a lot of satisfaction and learning. I have followed some wonderful builds in MSW. Though this (my first boat) may not pass for any standard model with experts around in MSW, being a novice, this is my crude attempt to learn ship modelling There are many mistakes. I expect you to point out each and correct me so that I can learn and plan for another model. If I am allowed I will post some more pics. The model is almost complete. Regards, Rao A.L.G. mtaylor, Mfelinger, yvesvidal and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 5, 2014 Share #2 Posted December 5, 2014 Rao, what a wonderful start to a good looking model by the looks of what you have already accomplished. You are following a long established custom form many parts of the world whereby boats are built by craftsmen who build boats without plans to do thwe work they needed to do. And so have you begun, keep up the great work and post more pictures when you can of your continuing progress. I can see why you would be very satisfied with your progress. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 6, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted December 6, 2014 Thanks Michael, In fact I was wondering how & where to start. But viewing the great builds by experts in MSW, gave me enough confidence. Looked around for a simple boat and here I am. I failed twice in making the bulkheads which proved a mistake, when I started planking. The third attempt was OK. As there was no measurements availableI had to go on visuals only. Attaching some more pics for your expert comments. Keel mounted on temporary stand. All frames in position. After planking - before sanding. Another view after planking. After first coat of paint. Another view of the boat. Mast in position. Rigging is almost complete. Will post the pics in next two days - there you may have a lot of things to tell me. Rao KevinR, Omega1234, CaptainSteve and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 6, 2014 Share #4 Posted December 6, 2014 Rao , the model looks great, very nice work, do you have a picture of the boat that inspired your model? Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mfelinger Posted December 6, 2014 Share #5 Posted December 6, 2014 Rao, Respecting proportions, my opinion is that there are too many seats. Imagine the actual size and see Can people sit. Otherwise I like the model is beautiful and made clean, nice work. Some picture of the boat (according to Michael), would help. Matija Quote My Builds: Pen Duick - scratch build, scale 1:20 Pasara - scratch build, scale 1:30 Bluenose - scratch build, scale 1:50 - completed Trabakul - scratch build, scale 1:30 - completed Gallery: Bluenose - scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 6, 2014 Share #6 Posted December 6, 2014 Nice work Rao, lovely scratch build Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 7, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted December 7, 2014 Thanks Michael, Matija & Nils for your comments. You are correct Matija regarding the no. of seats. The same thing occurred to me also; the original which I followed shows six. I thought, it would be cramped, i reduced it to five. I am attaching the photos which I followed in the beginning. Whatever the space, i could visually place between the frames, I did; but that had created problem at the stern. If I had seen DCooper's jolly boat earlier, I would have got better understanding. Anyway, I thought of proceeding further and learn by my mistakes. Six seats!! .Rao mtaylor, yvesvidal, GrandpaPhil and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 8, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted December 8, 2014 Hi, Am attaching some more pics. Rudder assembly. Lantern for the boat. It is of 13 pieces soldered together with candle inside. just for comparison of size!! Anchor... and it's parts. Mast, boom, bow sprit and gaff. Test rigging ...not complete.. Rao CaptainSteve, Omega1234, Piet and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 15, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted December 15, 2014 HI, The rigging is complete. This is the first time, I have done rigging. There may be mistakes. Would appreciate suggestions for corrections. I have not made the rigging permanent - not glued. Due to space constraints, I may need to pack this model for paving way for another one. So, the rigging and mast can be removed, packed and redone whenever need be. Here are some more pics... No power tools are used - only hand tools. Hence, the model may not be of quality; but it is an attempt to learn the basics of model ship building and enjoy doing it. Thanks, Rao IgorSky, Piet, michael mott and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 15, 2014 Share #10 Posted December 15, 2014 Impressive work. Looking at the pictures, I'd say you had built quite a few models. For a first model, it's even more impressive. michael mott and CaptainSteve 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 15, 2014 Share #11 Posted December 15, 2014 very nice looking small craft Rao, much love put into the Fitting out Details... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 15, 2014 Share #12 Posted December 15, 2014 Hi Rao I agree with everyone else. This is a truly impressive model. Surely not your first effort? If so, it's even more impressive. Well done. Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcpwilk Posted December 16, 2014 Share #13 Posted December 16, 2014 A very nice looking model. It is very easy to make things overscale. I would suggest that you use much finer thread for the rigging in future. Some modellers put a scale figure on their models at different stages during the build. I think an imaginary figure is also a good idea when it comes to size of ribs, tiller, oar handles, 'ropes' etc. happy modelling, Mike Omega1234 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 16, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted December 16, 2014 Thanks Mark, Nils, Omega and Mike, for your comments and encouragement. I am an admirer of your builds. In numbers, this is the second and as a complete project, this is the first. I have done a few plastic aero modelling and nothing in ship modelling. Being in-experienced, there were many ups-downs; such times - I used to come to this site and read again & again on the many builds - get charged and will return to my work-bench. If you like this model - all the credit goes to my friends at MSW whose builds are a lesson to learn and enjoy. Thanks Mike, I will keep your advice in mind. Just for info, am giving the pics of my first attempt made from scrap wood : Thanks, Rao Mfelinger, mtaylor, garywatt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 16, 2014 Share #15 Posted December 16, 2014 Hi Rao I'm definitely loving your red rowboat. What a great first attempt. You must be blessed by a natural talent for modelling because these types of models may appear simple, but, in reality, they're actually quite difficult to pull off well. Great job! All the best for Xmas and 2015. Rao A.L.G. 1 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 19, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted December 19, 2014 Hi, The model is complete. Thanks, Michael, Matija, Nils, Mark, Omega and Mike for dropping in and offering comments and advice. Surely, all your encouragement would help me in future. I only follow all your builds and observe - truly, this has helped me a lot. The final pics are attached : The lantern is placed... Anchor and gun .. The gun swivels around ... bucket... with the supplies, oars, etc. another view.. A small box. I enjoyed doing it. The latch and hinges were of second thought. Another trial .. a compass.. not to the mark. all supplies placed... top view. Last pic of the boat. Let me thank you all for your comments. Regards, Rao Mirabell61, mtaylor, Yambo and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted December 19, 2014 Share #17 Posted December 19, 2014 congrats Rao, there are so many fine Details to discover for the Fitting out of your boat. What about building a number larger next time with plenty of space in between and on the decks..... Nils justsayrow, CaptainSteve, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbelwood Posted December 19, 2014 Share #18 Posted December 19, 2014 What a beautiful piece of craftsmanship Rao. I doubt if I could come close to your work even if it was from a kit. Looking forward to your next build. CaptainSteve and Rao A.L.G. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega1234 Posted December 20, 2014 Share #19 Posted December 20, 2014 Hi Rao. What a beauty! Your boat is packed full of fine details and loads of character and charm. You deserve to be very proud of what you've achieved. Have a great Christmas and New Year! CaptainSteve 1 Quote MY SCRATCH BUILT MODELS ARE: Splendid Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28576-splendid-by-omega1234-scale-1500-mega-yacht/ Majestic Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/28483-mega-yacht-majestic-by-omega1234-miniature/ Sapphire Mega yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/21088-sapphire-by-omega1234-1388-scale-mega-yacht-66m-8-inch-hull-length/?tab=comments#comment-639898 Genesis - Supersports Mega Yacht https://modelshipworld.com/topic/18168-genesis-by-omega1234-1300-49m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long-finished/?tab=comments#comment-559026http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/14141-shadow-by-omega1234-scale-1300-luxury-60m-mega-yacht-8-inches-long/ SHADOW Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11384-majellan-by-omega1234-luxury-37-metre-motor-yacht-miniature-7-inches-approx/ Majellan Luxury Motor Yacht http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9261Rainbow-j-class-racing-yacht/?p=273543 Rainbow J Class Racing Yacht Mystic Classic Motor Cruiser Symphony Ingomar Schooner: Scratch build Dorade Schooner: <p> Lennox Restoration Warship http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/9577-pandora-cutaway-dockyard-style-miniature/?hl=pandora Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted December 20, 2014 Share #20 Posted December 20, 2014 Lovely work, Rao. I hope you have a nice place picked out to display her. CaptainSteve 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael mott Posted December 20, 2014 Share #21 Posted December 20, 2014 Rao, thanks for sharing your delightful model with us. I look forward to seeing your next build, I have a friend who is living in India at the moment and he occasionally send me pictures of the fleets of traditional boats in harbours. Your country has a rich legacy of building beautiful boats. Michael Quote Current builds Bristol Pilot Cutter 1:8; Skipjack 19 foot Launch 1:8; Herreshoff Buzzards Bay 14 1:8 Other projects Pilot Cutter 1:500 ; Maria, 1:2 Now just a memory Future model Gill Smith Catboat Pauline 1:8 Finished projects A Bassett Lowke steamship Albertic 1:100 Anything you can imagine is possible, when you put your mind to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mfelinger Posted December 20, 2014 Share #22 Posted December 20, 2014 Congratulations Rao, I did not expect that this model turn out so nice and will have so much detail. great job Matija Quote My Builds: Pen Duick - scratch build, scale 1:20 Pasara - scratch build, scale 1:30 Bluenose - scratch build, scale 1:50 - completed Trabakul - scratch build, scale 1:30 - completed Gallery: Bluenose - scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rao A.L.G. Posted December 21, 2014 Author Share #23 Posted December 21, 2014 Thanks everybody. I am happy that you all like it. Nils, I have taken your advice - looking for a suitable larger model (to go with my little experience). Would appreciate suggestions. Jbelwood, Omega, Mark and Matija : thanks once again for your appreciative comments. I am following your builds in this forum. Thanks Michael : In fact I was reading Ancient Indian Ships in Art this morning - and was surprised to learn their early ship building ways. Just to quote : one sentence : "Excavation at Alagankulam, district Ramnad yielded two potsherds engraved with sailing ships datable to 1st century BC / AD.(12) One depicts part of a ship in full sail with a mast which is supported by stays, sail and two paddles. Some scholars have identified the vessel with traditional boats of Tamil Nadu, Vattai. " There is much more and interesting. My interest is to find out how they built water tight compartments in those days with teak wood and built ships that carried 1000 men. I am gathering info and if you or anybody needs anything in this regard, I would be glad to help. Wish you all a Merry Christmas and happy modelling in the year to come. Regards, Rao Mfelinger, garywatt and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garywatt Posted February 15, 2015 Share #24 Posted February 15, 2015 Very nice model lovely detailed work you have a skill and it,s modeling Rao A.L.G. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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