Beef Wellington Posted June 19, 2015 #421 Posted June 19, 2015 Really nice work Brian, deck shots look fantastic and very neat rigging of the gun tackle blocks. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop)
Landlubber Mike Posted June 19, 2015 #422 Posted June 19, 2015 (edited) Wow Brian, looks fantastic! Interesting about your thoughts on stropping the blocks with wire versus thread. I had a devil of a time using rope on my Badger's 2mm blocks, and was thinking about trying wire. Edited June 19, 2015 by Landlubber Mike GuntherMT and Canute 2 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans)
russ Posted June 19, 2015 #423 Posted June 19, 2015 Brian: The length I quoted was a standard formula. I did not know that the space on your model was that tight. It may be that in such a small craft, they would sponge and reload, from outboard, through the gun port. That was not uncommon, especially in small vessels where space was at a premium. Russ GuntherMT 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
GuntherMT Posted June 19, 2015 Author #424 Posted June 19, 2015 Thanks for all the likes and feedback. Wow Brian, looks fantastic! Interesting about your thoughts on stropping the blocks with wire versus thread. I had a devil of a time using rope on my Badger's 2mm blocks, and was thinking about trying wire. Mike, I am cheating like crazy on the strops. I tie the hook onto the middle of a short length of rope, hold the block in a small clamp that I hold in a vise. I then dip the rope on either side of the block in CA glue, wrap it around the block and all the way back to the top of the block so that it is double on the bottom and sides. After it sets I trim the ends off flush near the hook. So it's all glued, the only tying is the initial knot to the hook. I'll try to remember to take a picture of the simple clamp and vise arrangement I'm using tonight. Landlubber Mike, JesseLee and Salty Sea Dog 3 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
GuntherMT Posted June 20, 2015 Author #425 Posted June 20, 2015 Took a break from tiny little blocks tonight, and gave the captain a way to steer his ship. Seems like a reasonable thing to do, given that she has a rudder and all. I did not replace the cast wheel with anything aftermarket, as all of the wood wheels I've seen are really 'fat', and I don't think they look right. I have read several articles on scratch making wheels, but I don't have the right equipment to use any of those methods yet, so I just painted the kit one and used it. Not sure the color is right, but I don't have a lot of brown paints, so this is what I ended up with. Ryland Craze, gerty, DocBlake and 13 others 16 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
russ Posted June 20, 2015 #426 Posted June 20, 2015 Brian: The wheel looks good. The casting comes out nicely once painted. Russ GuntherMT 1 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
JesseLee Posted June 20, 2015 #427 Posted June 20, 2015 Color looks good to me Salty Sea Dog and GuntherMT 2 Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle
Blue Pilot Posted June 20, 2015 #428 Posted June 20, 2015 I did the same thing on my AVS, for the same reasons. I like the color I think it looks good. There is something special about putting the tiller on. It makes me real like I am entering the home stretch. GuntherMT 1 Quote Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
DocBlake Posted June 20, 2015 #429 Posted June 20, 2015 Nice job so far! I didn't care for the Britannia metal wheel so I bought a boxwood wheel from MS. I sanded it down on the disc sander to the proper thickness, then stained it a red mahogany color. It turned out nice, I think. Dave GuntherMT 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
Salty Sea Dog Posted June 20, 2015 #430 Posted June 20, 2015 Just catching up. What a treat! Really like the detail work. Btw, did you ever get further with shelving and furniture for the work room? My room is still a work in progress and I'm looking for good ideas! GuntherMT 1 Quote -Buck Current build: AL Morgan's Whaleboat (1st build) Kits in the ships locker: I cannot confirm nor deny that there may be a few kits in there...
Jimz66 Posted June 20, 2015 #431 Posted June 20, 2015 Looks great Brian. Hope all is well. Quote Current/But Not immediate Build Logs I am still gathering the tools I need but starting preliminary work. Nothing to show just yet. Fair American Armed Virginia Sloop.
GuntherMT Posted June 21, 2015 Author #432 Posted June 21, 2015 Just catching up. What a treat! Really like the detail work. Btw, did you ever get further with shelving and furniture for the work room? My room is still a work in progress and I'm looking for good ideas! Hi Buck, I keep getting derailed on further furniture, hopefully by the end of the summer I'll get it finished. I have an idea for a lighting plan, and know pretty much what I want to do with the furniture, but I need both the money, and time, and at the same time! Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
Mahuna Posted June 21, 2015 #433 Posted June 21, 2015 Hi Brian I enjoyed seeing your AVS today - as usual. It looks great in pictures, but even better in real life. You definitely have the talent and the eye. I'll keep working on you to dive into the scratch-building pool. Frank GuntherMT 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
gerty Posted June 21, 2015 #434 Posted June 21, 2015 Very very nice work ! GuntherMT 1 Quote Current Build: Willie L. Bennett - Model Shipways Future Interests: Friendship Sloop - BlueJacket Ship Crafters Cape Cod Catboat - BlueJacket Ship Crafters
GuntherMT Posted June 22, 2015 Author #435 Posted June 22, 2015 I got a new toy yesterday, so today instead of working on getting the guns rigged so that I can actually make some forward progress, I made a side-trip to shaping the bowsprit. Well, when I was done I decided that it was terrible, because the grain in this 'beech' dowel was just huge and terribly obvious. So I made a jaunt down to Lowe's after determining that I didn't have any wood on hand that would work as a replacement, and I purchased some poplar dowels and square stock both. When I got them home and really took a good look at them in the sunlight, I decided that the best piece with the best color and lightest grain was one of the square stock. I cut a length off a little long, and chucked it up in the new toy and began turning the square wood into round wood. Here you can see how terrible the kit dowel was (grain is huge) compared to the rough shaped replacement I made from poplar. And I stuck it on the boat just to test fit it. Next, I guess I'll get back to those fiddly little blocks, since there is no point in finishing the bowsprit since I need to get all the deck work done before I mount it. Harvey, KenW, mrangus and 12 others 15 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
russ Posted June 22, 2015 #436 Posted June 22, 2015 Brian: Square stock is always the way to go on spar making. Store bought dowels can have grain running all over the place and they could easily warp over time. Square stock is much less likely to warp. Good work. Russ Canute and GuntherMT 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
GuntherMT Posted June 22, 2015 Author #437 Posted June 22, 2015 Thanks Russ. The dowels that came in the Constructo Carmen kit came out quite nice, so I guess I was expecting the same out of this one. Nope. Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
Mahuna Posted June 22, 2015 #438 Posted June 22, 2015 Great job Brian! I'm surprised you didn't need the follower at that length. You've already turned something much longer than I ever did on the 17" lathe - I'm sure you got tired of cranking after a while. It doesn't surprise me that you jumped right into it - now you'll be looking for anything you can use the new toy for. Frank GuntherMT 1 Quote Frank Completed: Skipjack Kathryn; Dunbrody Sectional Model; Paragon (modified Mayflower) Scratch Build; Planning a Sectional Model of Dunbrody NRG Member
russ Posted June 22, 2015 #439 Posted June 22, 2015 Brian: That is exactly correct. A few dowels might do well, but then you will run into a batch of bad ones and you might never know until it is too late. So long as the square stock is straight grained, it will do well. The problem with dowels is that they are cut with little or no thought as to the grain direction. Russ Canute and GuntherMT 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
mrangus Posted June 22, 2015 #440 Posted June 22, 2015 Brian, nice toy! Say a little more about it. I've been thinking that my first "big" purchase (tool-wise) will be a lathe. Thx Robb GuntherMT 1 Quote
Blue Pilot Posted June 23, 2015 #441 Posted June 23, 2015 Very nice work. Please do tell us more about your new toy! I have been thinking of getting one too. I have always wanted to get into turning wood. GuntherMT 1 Quote Mark Current Builds: 18th Century Merchantman 1/2 Hull Smuggler Pride of Baltimore II Gallery: Yankee Hero Armed Virginia Sloop Future Builds: Rattlesnake, Fair American
GuntherMT Posted June 23, 2015 Author #442 Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Thanks all, both for the comments and the likes. Please don't hesitate to offer constructive (or even not so constructive) criticism as well. I had no idea that there was a 'standard' length for breaching lines, even if I didn't go with that length purely for my own visual appeal reasons. Tonight I got back to the cannon. First I made a shorter breaching line and used much smaller seizing thread. I think it came out much nicer. Since I was happy with both the length and the look, I went ahead and fixed the gun into place and secured the breaching line. I then replaced the block with the broken hook, and rigged the out-hauls on both sides and after very carefully pulling the line tight, used a small brush and painted the lines with 50/50 white glue/water mix to help 'fix' the ropes. All that's left now is to do the rope coils, but I'm going to wait until all the guns are in place for that, so I can better picture the space available for both location and size of the coils. As far as the new toy goes, I don't really know enough about it to talk much really. It's the 17" Sherline, and I got it with a fairly good assortment of accessories, a couple of 'how to' books, and a DVD. It's very nice, and it's clearly designed for precision work, with a tool holder. The Proxxon (which I also have and can be seen in some of my photo's) uses a 'rest' rather than a tool holder, and doesn't throttle down to slow speeds, where the Sherline can be run from 0 speed on up. They are really designed for different uses, with the Proxxon being for wood turning using hand tools, and the Sherline is for using a tool-rest and precision work. I initially figured when buying the Sherline that I would sell the Proxxon, but after using it, I think they both have a different purpose on the work bench and will probably keep the Proxxon for doing hand-work using the tool-rest. Edited June 23, 2015 by GuntherMT Salty Sea Dog, NMBROOK, Mahuna and 11 others 14 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
russ Posted June 23, 2015 #443 Posted June 23, 2015 (edited) Brian: The cannon rigging looks very good. Nice work. The smaller seizing thread is a good choice. In diameter, a little smaller will usually be good for the scale effect. Russ Edited June 23, 2015 by russ Canute and GuntherMT 2 Quote T'aint a hobby if you hurry Completed projects Cross section model by Russ 1/48 scale Biloxi schooner model restoration 1/24 scale Biloxi oyster skiff 1/24 scale Biloxi schooner 1/48 scale POB Current project Biloxi lugger Captain Roy 1/48 scale POB
GuntherMT Posted June 25, 2015 Author #444 Posted June 25, 2015 Time to get back to making progress on the ship. I made 5 more breaching lines, attached them to the cascabel's on the 5 cannons, and then opened up the side gun carriage rings, put the line through them, and re-closed the rings. I then attached the breaching lines to the bulwarks, glued them in, and glued the guns down. Everything in these pictures is now permanently attached to the ship (except for the sloppy rope coils that are just sitting there). I will attach the companionway later, I need to build and install a couple of elm-tree pumps that go really close to it, so I am waiting on that. I also need to do some touch-up here and there as I managed to ding some things, and knock a cleat loose while putting the cannons on. I really am far too clumsy for this hobby. DocBlake, Beef Wellington, Salty Sea Dog and 18 others 21 Quote Brian Mystery project coming soon! Current build - Medway Longboat Complete - Armed Virginia Sloop Complete - Carmen (First Build)
egkb Posted June 25, 2015 #445 Posted June 25, 2015 That looks AMAZING Brian.. each time I look at her I just go Wow . That Bow on photo (last Photo) really shows her lines and the cool planking job you did! All The Best Eamonn BTW I can totally relate about being Clumsy Jack12477, JesseLee, GuntherMT and 1 other 4 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄
jhearl Posted June 25, 2015 #446 Posted June 25, 2015 I initially figured when buying the Sherline that I would sell the Proxxon, but after using it, I think they both have a different purpose on the work bench and will probably keep the Proxxon for doing hand-work using the tool-rest. You're probably already aware of this, but just in case -- Sherline sells a wood tool rest for their lathes. It's simple to use. https://www.sherlinedirect.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=61&CFID=63140255&CFTOKEN=19584344 Cheers - John GuntherMT 1 Quote http://modelboatyard.com Recently Completed: Chesapeake Bay Buyboat - F.D. Crockett
DocBlake Posted June 25, 2015 #447 Posted June 25, 2015 Nice job, Brian! GuntherMT 1 Quote Dave Click on images in posts to view them in full resolution! Click on the builds below and link to the log. Current Builds: -Gaff-Rigged Sloop, 1/4 Scale (3" = 1') -Chapman Water Hoy 1768 by DocBlake - Scratch Build - 1:48 scale -Hannah - 1:32 scale, Scratch-Built Plank-on-Frame Admiralty style -Generic Sharpie by DocBlake. 3/4" = 1' scale. NRG plans. -Fair American 1780 by DocBlake - Lauck Street Shipyard - 1/48 scale - POF -Independence 1775 by DocBlake - Artesania Latina - 5/16" scale -HMS Triton Cross Section by DocBlake - 1/24 scale Completed Builds: -Bomb Vessel Granado 1742 Cross Section - 1:32 Scale Scratch Build -British Capstan circa 1777 by DocBlake - FINISHED - 1:16 Scale -HMS Blandford - Cross Section - Scratch Build -1/32 Scale -17th Century Battle Station by DocBlake - HMS Mordaunt - 1:32 -17th Century Naval Cannon - 1:12 Scale -Royal Navy Ship of the Line Cross Section by DocBlake - (Mamoli's "Constitution") - 1:93 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768, 1/48 scale. -Virginia Pilot Boat "Swift", 1805, 1/50 scale -18th Century Naval Battle Station, 1/24 scale -Armed Virginia Sloop 1768 "Patrick Henry", 1/32 scale, Lauck Street Shipyard, POF, Admiralty Style.
rafine Posted June 25, 2015 #448 Posted June 25, 2015 Looks great Brian. Bob GuntherMT 1 Quote Current builds on MSW: HMS Winchelsea 1:48: Medway Longboat 1:24 Prior builds on MSW: Schooner Halifax: Lumberyard 1/48 semi-scratch; Cutter Cheerful 1:48; Granado: Caldercraft 1:64; Frigate Essex: Kitbashed Model Shipways kit; Triton Cross Section 1:48; Kingfisher from Lauckstreet kit; Syren: Model shipways kit ;Kitbashed Fair American: Model Shipways;Prince de Neufchatel: Model shipways 1:64 Civil War Picket Boat
dgbot Posted June 25, 2015 #449 Posted June 25, 2015 Magnificent, your model is coming along nicely. David B GuntherMT 1 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/
thomaslambo Posted June 25, 2015 #450 Posted June 25, 2015 Brian, Beautiful progress on the cannons....I'm always looking for an excuse to add another fine tool to my work shop (very nice lathe you have there) And a thanks to Russ for another tip on using square stock for making spars GuntherMT and Salty Sea Dog 2 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48
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