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- Matt D, Jorge Diaz O, albert and 18 others
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- bruce d, Keith Black, shipman and 4 others
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Hello
and many thanks for your nice comments and likes. I'm overwhelmed 😮
I finished the fore mast port side and started with the main mast.
And that are the bolts who hold the chain plates in place. But today wasn't my day. So I stoped working. There where a 0,8mm bold should fit, I tried a 1mm bold and for the 1mm bold I drilled 0,8mm holes! And all ready with CA saturated 😬
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Thank you Keith and also Jaager,
the chain-Painter chain holds the anchors like in this picture. According to the 1719 list of establishment the chain should be 15 feet long. But I think, because the channels moved up, it could be at least shorter. But that I will see later.
- Jorge Diaz O, bruce d, GrandpaPhil and 8 others
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Hello,
all the deadeyes and the first chainplates are installed. It takes so long, because the paint doesn't dry really good now.
Here are all parts together
And there some of them now
I did install also the chain-painter chain. What a funny name! I hope it will fit later with the anchor
And the whole ship. So for the next weeks I think, I'm busy to install the rest of them.
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Hello Marc,
I use always „ZAP-A-GAB, Medium CA+“ and have good results with it. It fills open spaces and did't bond immediately.
- Hubac's Historian, shipman, Cathead and 3 others
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Hello, a short update
When I'm building the first deadeyes, I had only the pictures from the Centurion in my head 😐
They build the straps filled with tin! Over night I was thinking about this and thought that this is't right. So the next morning I changed it.
The „new“ deadeyes, above, look now much more correct. The one to the left are those for the fore mast, I build yesterday. Today I changed my strategy from soldering them, to glueing them. Here the first one for the mizzen mast. That is at least much easier 🙂
- Cathead, bruce d, GrandpaPhil and 10 others
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Hello,
today I finished the first deadeyes, or put them straps on. After clearing how to do it and wich dimensions and which material, it worked really fine. I forged the strap around the deadeyes flat, because the had a broad groove. These are 9 mm deadeyes, I got from Poland. Others I have from the US, and Canada. So they are really international. The copper wire is 1 mm in diameter.
And here the first test sitting
So, if you did't hear the next time anything from me, I'm busy with the rest of them 🙂
- gjdale, FriedClams, dvm27 and 17 others
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Keith, did't you have a whip? 😇
- FriedClams, mtaylor, WalrusGuy and 1 other
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- FriedClams, gjdale, Keith Black and 10 others
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Good morning,
i'm overwhelmed about the nice comments, and thank you also for all the likes.
The next things to do are the channels for the mizzen and the stools for the main mast stay's.
- shipman, mtaylor and Keith Black
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- rybakov, Jorge Diaz O, Wintergreen and 26 others
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Hello and thank you for your comments and likes
Yes Chuck, I used a scraper for the mouldings, but also carving tools.
Today I installed the first channel, but not fast at all. That was more work as expected, but at least I got it. The next will go faster.
The shipwright spend a grog for that and I think the water is hot 😃
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Good morning,
before I start television yesterday evening, I had a look into the 2. volume of the Rogers Collection. And there it was, in 1719 the channels had a lower position and therefor an other form. Jaager you where right with your first though.
In this case the fore channels where broader in front and the main channels at the aft end to get sure that the shrouds are clear with the ships side. The real Centurion was build that way, but the model was build in 1747 and the modellers build it in the way that was used then. The channels over the ports of the upper gun deck.
The channels are now parallel to the ships side, or as the centurion shows a little narrower in the front or back. In this case I take the measurements from the establishment list only for the largest width of them.
- GrandpaPhil, FriedClams, druxey and 7 others
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Hello and thank for your likes,
@ Jaager, thank you for your efforts. I don't think that your first thought is the solution. You would't see it at any model. Your second thought is may be the solution, but why did they give the wide only for the middle part of the ship.
I think that the given measurements are the widest part of the channels. If that is true also in 1745 is an other question. The mizzen channels are parallel to the ships side, there is given only a wide for the whole thing.
I found a drawing in Lavery's Ship of the Line I, the Centurion at page 71-72
That is what I thought was the meaning with design. To follow the lines of the ship. Ok, I would made the channels at the main mast to the aft end at least 4,8mm, so narrower then in the front. The measurements are from the drawing.
This are the fore and main channels from the Centurion. That model was build ca. 1745,
and her the same from the 60 gunner with no name
I'm sorry, but I haven't better pictures. I did't know at that time that it would be important. But with a little good will you could see that the fore channels are to the front narrower and the same for the main channels to the back.
I made some channels to look how much space is from the shrouds to the ships side, and I think there is much space. Even when the shrouds come in a little more. Here the channels have the same wide in the front and back. So I think I could made them to the front/back a little narrower to get that arch and follow the ships lines.
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Hello,
now it is done, all port lids are at there place 😅, but not fast at all.
The next thing to do are the channels.
And here I have a question. In the 1719 establishment list is for the main channels a breath at the fore most end given and for the fore channels a breath at the after end. Fore the mizzen just a breath. But for all, so that the shrouds are clear of the gunnell (?)
From the pictures I have that could be, but I'm not really sure, at least for the fore channels. For the main channels I would say the picture show it, but not very much. Here the channels getting narrower at the end, because the stays going up more vertical and therefor clearer from the ships side. Why the fore channels should be broader at the end is not very logical for me. Here the last stays have nearly no ship sides. They are behind the castel at the ships waist.
But may be it's only kind of design?
- shipman, GrandpaPhil, Keith Black and 11 others
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Hello,
now the lids at the gun deck, at the star board side, are also ready 🙂 Now with more experience I also repaired some of the hooks for the rings at the inside of the lids at the port side.
The rings have a inner diameter of 1 mm and the wire is 0,4 mm thick and you may have seen at my last post that some hooks are much larger then these.
HMS Tiger 1747 by Siggi52 - 1:48 - 60 gun ship from NMM plans
in - Build logs for subjects built 1501 - 1750
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Good morning Håkan,
the cannons, also those for the gun deck, are ready. The beams for the upper gun deck are til now not all permanently installed.
With the lightning and taking pictures I have no problems. I have LED lightning already in my shop. The only disadvantage with LED's is, that they did't have UV-A radiation. So the paint did't harden really good.