kmart

You build is looking good.  Off to a great start.

Will be following you progress!

 

 

K

Hello all,

Sooo sailing season (real sailing as apposed to model sailing :-))   is wrapping up in the next few weeks here in New England.

Hoping to get a few more days on the water before hauling her out. 

Then it will be back to work on the Connie after the summer hiatus.

I already started cleaning up the  basement workshop to start getting my brain back into modeling mode

And thinking about where I left off .

 

My goal  for this winter modeling season.... is :

• Finish the hull
• Finish the stern windows/ details/ quarter galleries
• Paint the hull
• Detail the main gun deck
• And just maybe get the spar deck planking in

At my speed of modeling that's ambitious.  but that's the goal. 

Especially as I'm trying to do a respectable job and up the quality of my Connie build over my past builds as apposed to fast...

 

Should start having real updates and (modeling) pics in the next few weeks.

 

K

 

    

Another view of the aft  extra  plank in place

 

 

 

 

 

 

Screw up #3

This was done prior.. I just noticed it now.

Well since I'm adding the extra plank aft .. it needs to go all the way around  so I'm making same update at the bow.

Look at the first gun-port... that's closet to the bow.

 

That's Not actually a gun-port.. its where the anchor gets stored.

Notice its a larger size than the gun-port.  That's correct per the current 2019 version of the ship.

But all the Corne paintings and AOS pictures show it as the same size as a normal gun-port....

So  not correct for 1812.   Plus I really didn't like how it looks.  not symmetrical with the rest of the ports...

 

Soo demolishing time.

Made a new backing piece

 

 

Glued in place

 

Next session  I'll plank it over..

 

Screw up #4  Also just noticed today.

Waaay back when I was framing the main deck gun-ports.  

I was so pleased with myself for my framing method and my jig for perfectly square gun-ports...

 

 

Well

As you can clearly see...  quite a large gap.

This is for both gun-ports on both sides.

The way I framed them two at at a time port starboard... worked great for rest of the ship.

Because of the steep curvature at the bow,   If I run the jig all the way through both ports.. its square and proper sized,  but because of the curvature of the hull,  if I put the jig in at 90 to the hull... the ports too wide.  Fortunately is just the one pair that suffers from this.

I can build up one side of the frame to the right side.   Not sure how to add extra planking to cover it up.

Grrr.

I'll figure something out.

 

The past week is NOT what I had been expecting to do in the wood-shop.

 

 

Oh well.  Fix and move forwards.

 

 

 

 

Trying to fix screw up #1  let me to Screw up  #2.

 

Sooo as mentioned about earlier in my log.  I chose to go with the 1812 version of the ship that does NOT have that top-galleon Rail.

On the model expo plans of the current ship... the cap-rail sits right on top of the spar deck gun-ports.. and then there are 3 more planks... and then their is the second ( top-galleon) rail.

 

That's where I messed up.  I positioned my stern based on the model expo plan... Not adjusting for the different stern and lack of the extra planks.  i.e. 3 more planks.

 

Looking at the AOS  and also several other models.  I notices that while they don't have the top galleon rail... some models DO have 1  maby 2 planks over the spar gun-ports under the mail cap rail.

 

That's  it.  that my way to fix... Add a plank or two over the ports, but still under the main cap.

 

Sooo

 

 

Look Close again

The green arrow is the extra plank.  All good.

But red is screw up #2.   

I forgot I had not completely cleaned up the gun ports.  they were planked higher than actual size,

The plan was to pair it back down to proper size, when I put cap-rail on.

 

Well when I added the extra plank,, all my gun-ports became too tall.

I had to go back and add extra plank and as well as a  header behind it.

 

You can see I used small scrap pieces to put in in backings as well as gun-port header the full length of the extra plank.

So when I get to the cap rail.. it will be a solid 3 pieces top to attach to,  outer plank+ backer+ inner plank.

 

 

 

 

 

Well,,, it was bound to happen.

I screwed up...

but if your going to do something.. do it right...

So  I screwed up a second time.

Then I identified my 3rd and 4th screw up that I made earlier in the build...but just identified now.

 

 

 

So.  Screw up #1:  The stern.

 

Hear is what my intended goal is/ was.

Looks like everything is lining up well  so far.

In my prior post.. I showed how I had all the stern prepped to plank...

All the windows and gun ports framed in etc.

soo

 

 

For the stern scuppers, portholes.  I cut a small square piece of wood.  half the thickness of the planks and positioned /glued.. them on the stern.

 

Then I planked around it.

This will allow me to have those ports open.    or if closed they ill sit flush with planking.

either way, I have options.

 

Getting there.   Will cut out upper gun-ports later.  But they are all properly framed under the planking.

 

But wait.  Look above pic where the topmost plank is at this point.

I still have 3 more planks to reach the top where the Cap-rail will be.

 

However ...  The top of the gun ports on the spar deck are already lower than the current plank on the stern.

The cap-rail has to run in 1 level from around the side to the stern.

My stern is 3 planks to high.  Ugg

 

 

My current stern planking ends at the lower red arrow.   3 more planks will end up way over the side cap-rail at upper red arrow.

 

 

What to Do???

 

 

 

 

   

So   time for my next update.

The stern... 

Well after being thoroughly pleased with myself for how the hull planking came out.....

I though finishing planking the stern would be quick  and easy... boy was I WRONG.  (again)

 

First pic.. The old Gal back in her build cradle.  

Now for the stern

 

First I glued on the ears.

Even as I was doing that , I knew sooner or later I would wind up breaking off the tops of the stern  "risers"?? tops of the stern bulkheads.

They are really thin, fragile and not supported by anything.

 

Since I needed to frame in the stern gun ports on the Spar deck anyways...  I used the same technique as the other gun-ports..

Basically made them solid!

Note the filler pieces are not rectangular.  That would be to easy. 

The spar deck port openings are just roughed in at this point.   Latter on I'll  clean them up to proper size .

Right now they are there to prevent me from breaking off the stern timbers.

 

 

Before I can go much further, I knew I had to position the quarter galleries.  So I cut out and shaped two lower solid pieces.

This was done similar to how the bow and stern spaces were made. 

Square block... mini table saw to right size, 

Then scroll saw to get close to the right shape.

Then table sander to finish up.

 

Then I started the decorative fitting that goes underneath.

For the lower pieces, I dove into hand carving with a number #7  exacto blade

 

Notice the lip on the upper right piece.  That fits over the wale .    The lower pieces will sit on the wale.  and then the upper  pieces will sit on those. 

So If I measured right.. They will all align and be at same height and symmetrical relative to the wale

 

Like So...

Note at this point,  the upper blocks are glued on.  The lower blocks are just dry fitted.   

They lowers do need more fitting and  sanding to be flush with the upper pieces.

 

Those lower pieces were my first ever free hand carving.   🙂   

 

 

Next,   Need to frame the 5 stern windows.

Like the gun-ports,  I made a jig.  basically a piece of wood 14x14 mm.  That's the size of the stern window frames.

 

The challenging  part is that

   1.  The stern angles outwards (further to stern) as it goes up to the top rail

    2.  That the stern framing is NOT straight up and down.     They cant outward port and starboard

    3.  The stern framing are not exactly parallel to one another. They are at slight different angles.

 

So with those three challenges...  

Need to frame 5 perfectly square 14 x14 mm ports , that are aligned and spaced properly.

Ugg

 

 

I know it looks rough,  but you can see all the shims of various sizes in place.

pretty much all 5 windows needed shims on 3 sided.    The bottom sill was correct and my starting reference point.

 

You can see the tick marks  above each window.

My methodology was  I basically measured and marked the center-line of the stern.

Then measured from there and marked where the center of each window should be.

My Jig also has the center-line marked.

 

So I aligned the center-line of the jig with the center-line mark for each window.   

Then positioned the shims around the jig.

Easy  ... NOT!

 

Now.. Finally,  I glue on the first plank.  

First one is aligned with lower window sills.

So much for stern planking being quick and easy!!  🙂

 

 

And that's where I'll leave it for today.

Hopefully next update will have most of the stern planking finished.

 

 

 

 

 

Well I must concede.   Captain Steve is an honest man.   For he said there be more redness  to come for a royal barge it be.   At truest he was..  for not only more a redness hue there be, but the Capt Steves barge is looking most regal indeed!

 

And while the barge may not have the contrast of blackish  and whitish the old gal Connie will someday haveth...  

The redish hue does grow on one and the bardge be most hansometh

 

Congrats to Capt Steve!

Congrats Used2Sail

You made a true work of art.  And a fittimg case to show her off.

 

Thanks for the your build log.  Its both a source of inspiration and my go to log as I reach each new step in my own build.

 

Congrats again.   

Looking forward to following your next built.

 

K

 

 

Src

 

Excell to build model wooden boats.   

Whoda thunk.

But thats what you get when you put an IT  guy in a woodshop.  Grin

 

Excell is helpful. But visio is actualy great.

Scan in the model blueprints.    Then you can scale to 1:1. And draw out and then print components to scale.    Poor mans cad.

 

 

 

Capt Steve.   

 

Ur hero's planking and nailing tis looking mighty fine.

But i,'s got to say    that red is looking mighty     err well  Red   🙂

 

Jon, Jon, Cpt Steve, Used2Sail....

Thanks all for the kind works / Encouragement /Likes.

 

Currently  I'm working on framing out the stern window openings and and making the quarter galley lower pieces right now.

I'll post some more pics this weekend.

 

With us heading into Spring and warmer weather here in the New England... My time spent and motivation on Connie will go down to a trickle as I switch gears from model boats to preping and maintaining and then sailing the real sailboat..

 

Here is what I Imagine I'll be doing soon!!!

HMS Surprise  (Ex HMS Rose)   Which I actually did get to sail on once for 2 weeks as crew (it was amazing!)

 

Here is what I will eventually be doing this summer

I'm at the helm taking the picture.   Would have been better if I was  taking a picture over the stern of him chasing me with a stern chaser run out  (grin)

 

And here what real boating is about. And what I'm actually doing  ..LoL

Sanding , scraping, painting, fixing.

Then more scraping, more sanding, more painting and more fixing. 

 

K

 

 

Tom  

 

Looking case is looking awesome

and Massive!!!

 

couple of  questions

 -How did you secure the pexi in the panels.  I see you have a channel.. bu I did you use some sort of adhesive to keep in place?

 -How will you get the model in the case when she is done.

          I'm guessing one panel will be hinged or removable?

 

 

K

Part #2

 

Cleaning up the hull.

So again.. I didn't take any pictures during.  not much to see.  Just pics when process was done.

 

Basically I sanded the hull down with 220 grit sandpaper.

After sanding..  I vacuumed the hull to pick up all the sawdust

 

Then I used plastic wood  wood filler to  fill in all the dings, nicks,  and low spots etc.

I was quite generous with the filler.   i.e filled in  so it was proud on the hull.

 

After the wood filler dried... sanded it back down to smooth again with 220. 

It actually sands quiet well and easier/softer than the wood.

So I was able to sand off the excess filler without thinning the  wood further.

 

Next I repeated the filler/sand  process 3 more times.  Each time the areas that needed filler were fewer and smaller.

 

After the last time when I was happy with the hull, I did a final sanding with 320 grit sandpaper.

Vacuumed again

 

And the result is....

 

 

Next up...

I'll clean and install the mettle  port-lights and scuppers fittings in holes that are already drilled out.

Then I'll be  plank the stern.   Just frame the windows.. No stern  decorations yet.

 

At that point I'll be ready to prime the hull.

Still have some work to do before I'm there, but i'm getting eager to see her with the black hull and white gun-port stripes...

 

That's it until next time.

 

 

Alright.. time for my next update

 

 

First.. I made a few templates

I printed  to scale... 

       the 5 window stern from AOS

       The side view of the hull from the kit plans.  Cut this into 3 pieces

Cut them out 

 

For the stern... I still need to ad the ear pieces to the side of the hull that are the back of the quarter galleys

The laser cut pieces that came with the ship are a good match for the present stern.  but is smaller/ less rounded than the 1812  5 window version

So using the template and some scrap from the kit... I made new ones that are the proper shape.

 

So those are ready to glue on now.  I'm holding off working on the stern and adding the ears to the hull until hull is all sanded.  Otherwise they will be in the way of sanding and sure to be broken off.

 

 

The other template.. side of the hull... I used to locate the position of the scuppers and port lights on the side of the hull  near the top of the wale.

Sorry I didn't take any pics using the template.. but here is the result after marking and drilling the holes.

The lower, but larger holes are all set to receive the port lights.   The upper holes I need to enlarge,  and make more oval to fit the scuppers.

Used same template for both sides.   but needed to look at the back side of the template when working o Port side.   No big deal.. As I did starboard first.  holes were already in the template.     

 

note when using the template....line up the closest gun-port.  then mark the holes.   As the blueprints are 2D  and the hull is 3D.   They dont line up along the whole length of the ship.  That's the reason for cutting into 3 pieces and doing in section.

 

Note in the last picture.. you can see the hull needs quite a bit of cleanup.  A good number of gouges and uneven planking.

Especially around the transition from the bottom of the wale to the lower hull.

 

Will need lots of filler and sanding

 

 

 

 

 

Planking done....  not counting the stern.

Still needs quite a bit of sanding and cleanup.

Really only 1 plank (each side)  that didn't run from Bow to stern.

And not a single stealer.

Will need a bit of wood filler to fill in a few spots

Overall...  I'm really happy how she came out.

also made a prototype stand.  just to get the shape/position right..

 

 

 

And I found these threaded sleeves. and thumb screws

made a test piece..same width as the keel

Now I can drill 2 holes in bottom of keel.   Thumb screw will go through the stand into the sleeve in the hull.

And I'll have a secure but easily removable way to secure the stand.  (when I get to that point in say 3 or 4 years  .  HeHe

 

Thanks Tom.

 

 

Soo close to finishing planking.

 

 

Great Reference photos.  Thanks Guys!  I didn't realize they took off the top gallant caprails on the last refit..

Now If they would just put her stern windows and quarter galleys back to one of the 1812ish various  version... 🙂

 

FYI,  USS Constitution Model Shipwright Guild currently  having their annual Model show at the Museum through March.

I Highly recommend to the show if your in Boston.  Some really exceptional models .... and craftsmen.

I'm going to  go see the show and this ship again either next weekend or weekend after...  depending on work and weather.

In New England.. we expecting snow storm tonight.    The good news is I can stay in tomorrow and do more modeling!!! (after shoveling)

 

Now for My update.

• I finished my next set of  planking bands.   There were 5 planks in each band.     So another 10 down per side.
• I did some basic cleanup of the planking so far.
  • Used a razor blade to scrape off the glue on the surface and the ridges where the plank edges meet..
  • Then did some initial sanding with 200 grit sandpaper.
• Finally I  re-calculated the remaining space. and the plank widths at each frame 
  • At this point,  the gaps at each frame  (port/Starboard) are either a match or within 1 mm of each other. 
  • I'm really happy how its coming out very symmetrical.

I am down to 10 more planks per side remaining... then planking will be complete... soo getting close.

The remaining gap is definitely getting noticeably smaller...

I'm at the point where I  will only be able to do 1 plank per side at a time and not two.  So it will be a bit slower progress.

 

The Stand

At this point.. before I finish up the planking...I need to start thinking about the final stand.

I'm going to make some sort of cradle.  And I want it to solidly fixed to the hull.

I thinking 2 bolts that go through the stand and up into into some sort of threaded sleeve in bottom of the keel. 

If I can find such a sleeve,  I can drill a hole in the bottom of the keel now and glue it in.

Also, each of the 2 pieces of the cradle will need to be  a form fit to the hull

... and align on a frames/bulkhead.

Sooo... need to make it now,  while hull is upside down and before I finish the planking..

 

I'll finish the model in its working cradle  ( pics earlier in my log) ( It is much more supportive while working on her then final stand will be)   

And not attach the final stand until she is done.  But that means it needs to be easy to on the finished model.

 

One of the reasons I enjoy this hobby.  I have to think about and plan for something that is still several years ahead in the process. HeHe

 

 Some Current Pics:  

Zappto,

 

Looking Great.

She is really turning out beautiful.

Looks like your close to completing her!

 

K

Thanks mtdoramike.  Actually,  the xls chart didn't really take me that long.  The basic sheet I borrowed from Used2Sail.   Its all formulas,  so after taking the measurements off the ship,  the rest just calculates!  That said, there's a lot of planks on Connie..  so you must be pretty fast planker  🙂

 

On to my status. 

In the middle of planking the hull, so nothing really that interesting to post.  

One plank, two plank, three plank, four,  then repeat....  It seems like forever!!

I was able to finish  bands  A and D.  

Working  from the wale towards the center and then from the gardboard strake to center, Port then Starboard..

Basically sets of 4 planks at time.      I've completed 17 planks total per side so far. 

I then  re-measured the remaining gaps again at each frame and re-calculated.

Staying accurate so far.  port to starboard are  within +- 1 mm across all frames 

I have 21 planks left (per side) to go 

 

That's it for now.  It will probably be at least another month before I post again.   

Not much to see, document while I'm planking away. 

K

 

 

  

Jon,   

another.. welcome back.   Glad to hear your surgery went well.

And glad to see you back to working on Connie.

 

No more surgeries or breaks! 🙂   I'm relying on your log, and progress to keep me moving on mine!   🙂

 

Best

K

  

Vince,

I'll repeat my early comments I made .

Truly Magnificent!, Inspiring!

 

I love the sails.  They look great.  Really adds to the model, makes it come alive from a static model to a real ship ready to sail out of port!

 

K.

 

 

LowSodiumSailor,

 

Welcome to the Connie Builder Club. 🙂

Search this site.  There are a number of us currently building and many more that have have already completed building the Constitution.

Sooo lots of great resources, and help available to you.

 

As this sounds like your first wooden kit... and your first tall ship model... you jumped right into the deep end! 🙂

Take your time, ask for help, ask lots of questions, enjoy the build... and you'll end up with a showpiece model at the end. 

And stick with it.  Model ship building is a slooow hobby but worth it.   I expect my Connie built to last 5+ years.   I think that is typical. YMMV.

Connie really is a beautiful ship and makes a beautiful model.

 

Best and good luck!

 

Ken

 

   

 

 

Thanks Used2Sail and GMO2.  I'll go with the 1812 version on NOT have the top-gallant rail.   Will just have the rail end over top of the spar-deck gun-ports.

 

Haven't posted in awhile but have been making slow progress.

Added the filler pieces that will be used to support the spar deck gun port frames

Used my gun-port Jig to keep them square and symmetrical

 

Once all the filler pieces were in.  I went and planked and sanded  the outer planking.  Cleaned up the gun-ports.

Next to prep for planking the rest of the hull.

 

First,  pulled out my handy planking reference book.

Supper helpful in understanding how to layout the planks

Put in the gard board strake.

 

Once gardboard in.. I made a bunch of tic strips.   used them to measure distance from bottom of wale to gardboard at each frame as well as stem and stern

In the process i identified that a few of the bulkheads were not quite fair .. So I needed to correct that with some strips on the low bulkheads

 

 

 

With the tick strips all made, measured...  transferred the info into an excel spreadsheet.

 

Overall the hull is quite symmetrical.   Of the 18 bulkheads + Stem & stern  ...

Of the total gaps at each frame.. 8 were identical port to starboard, 

another 8  had  only 1 mm difference.  There were only a couple  off by 2 or 3 mm .

All close enough that can be corrected within 1 or 2 plank adjustments

 

 

I divided the hull into 5 bands.  A1, A2, B, C, D

A1 and A2  together  have 14 planks.  These will cover the planks that terminate into the counter of the stern.

 

After calculating the bands...  I transferred the info back onto the tick trips.

Then transposed the band info from the tick strips back onto the respective bulkheads

 

From there....  I ran batons at each of the bands.

The battens are positions such the edge is aligned with the band closest towards the  wale or gardboard strake. 

This way I can work 2 planks per side at a time.  One closest to gardboard and one closest to wale, Working inward. 

When I get to the 1st baton,  remove it and keep working toward the next pair. 

   

 

At this point  the run of the battons look decent except at the bow.   The natural run doesn't flow up as far on the hull  as I laid out.

If I follow the natural run, then the taper will be too great at the bow.   But if I follow my marks.  I'm concerned the planks will take a unnatural bend upward and look more wavy, thain fair.

 

Need to play with this and figure it out before I start laying planks

 

 

Thats it for now.

K

 

 

 

Hey, UsedtoSail  I'm pulling up a seat to watch you turn this into a masterpiece as well! 🙂  

Glad to catch you at the beginning on this one!

K

General Question for all the other Connie builder.

 

Looking at some of the other builds logs ... (Used2Sail)  And some pics of other historic models  (see pics below)

The top rail is right at the top of the Spar deck Gun ports.

However, on the Model Shipway plans... and even in AOS under the 1812 profile view on page 47,

There is a rail over the spar gun ports, but then there are 2 more planks above that rail and then the Top rail.

Then the hammock crane on top of that rail.

 

Are those extra planks a modern addition?

Did the 1812 version end right at the top of the gun-ports?

 

 

 

 

Current ship does have the extra 2 planks...