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Swan-Class Sloop by Stuglo - FINISHED - 1:48
tlevine replied to stuglo's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
I agree with Druxey and Greg...much better. If it is any consolation, this is one of the most difficult parts of the build. Oh wait, there are the head timbers, the stern framing, the carvings... Seriously, it will get easier as your skills improve. -
Roger, that is why I was hoping the adhesive-backed copper would have worked out. And it did until I applied the finish. As I mentioned yesterday, I have finished the hull planking. It still needs final sanding; that will occur after I have all the holes for the bolts drilled. The wale become rather the worse for wear over the last several months so I sanded it down and applied a veneer of holly. It will be painted with black artist acrylics after I have finished installing the bolts to prevent any further damage. I will also be replacing the decorative strip for the same reason. The pencil line at the stern represents the future location of the fashion piece, my next project. I have drawn up the locations of the bolts and secured it to the building board. These rows will be transferred to the hull and then the drilling will commence.
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Druxey, I am using a 1.3 mm jeweler's punch. Once I am satisfied with my technique, I will post details.
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I have finally finished installing the planking. Hopefully, I will have pictures tomorrow. The planks are secured to the frames with roves (washers) and bolts. I was unable to find a framing diagram for a similar vessel and so do not know whether it was single framed or single/double framed. I have chosed single frames. Yedlinsky's book of scantlings states that for a cutter, the room and space is 26", the floor timber is 9 3/4" wide and the first futtock is 10 1/2" wide. This would leave distances between the column of bolts of 13 1/8" and 12 7/8". At 1:48 scale, the difference is negligible so all my bolts columns will be 13" apart. I wanted to show both the roves and bolts. After a lot of experimentation, I have decided on the pattern seen in the left-hand three rows. On the left, the roves are punched out from copper sheet, applied with CA. On the right, the roves are punched out from copper tape. The adhesive was not strong enough to hold the copper on the plank without the addition of CA. I also tried using epoxy, Duco cement, yellow glue and contact cement but the CA worked best.
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what is the best hand plank crimper
tlevine replied to ronald305's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
But DA talks about using a thicker piece of wood and carving it to the correct shape. This is what I typically do. With a little bit of patience and the correct mandrel, you can bend any stripwood into a right angle. -
The domain name has expired for Ship Ahoy. I also have the replacement motor for the Preac and love it.
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what is the best hand plank crimper
tlevine replied to ronald305's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
Try this... Find something that has the approximate curvature you are trying to achieve. Pots are very good for this. Assume you are going to have to trim the end of the plank so cut your plank longer than necessary. Moisten (do not soak) the plank and clamp it to the rim of the pot. Hold the free end of the plank in one hand and use a hair dryer on high heat to blow hot air onto the plank. Warm the entire plank and then concentrate on the area you want to bend. Gently bend the plank around the pot until you get the curve you need. -
There is also a lot of misinformation about true silver soldering. For example, the mating surfaces need to be clean but they do not need to sit in vinegar or pickle prior to soldering. What they need is perfect contact. Silver solder will not fill in a gap. In a lot of situations, it is better to gradually heat the entire piece rather than concentrating on the solder site. This will help prevent the solder chip from flying. Try laying the silver chip under the piece instead of on top.
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Levmiller, you still have healthy ash trees? Around Chicago, the emerald ash borer has killed off 99.9% of them. I still have two trees but that is only because they get a very expensive treatment twice a year. And if you live in an area where the ash borer has been found, all ash wood needs to be removed by someone who knows how to dispose of the wood properly. For that reason, I would not recommend it.
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2021 NRG/MSW Calendar
tlevine replied to tlevine's topic in NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD - News & Information
These are the links to the models featured in the calendar. Bob's fishing pink and Gus' Sussex are unpublished. The other models can be found in various issues of the Nautical Research Journal. -
To make things more confusing, let me share the sterns of a few other models from the RMG. The cutter Hawke (1777) and the Trinity House hoy (c.1800) were clinker built. I do not see a fashion piece extending onto the transom on either model. Lowestoft (1723) is earlier and larger (sloop of 20 guns) but nicely demonstrates a square stern with a fashion piece extending to the bottom of the transom. Finally, the French lugger of uncertain vintage clearly shows that the hull planking covers the open grain of the transom planks but there is no fashion piece. Hawke Hoy Lowestoft Lugger
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If I carried the lapstrake all the way to the transom, such that there would be a saw-toothed appearance, that would be erose. Sorry about the obscure verbiage. As druxey states above, "...make gains until the planks are flush with each other into the rabbet." So my question was whether the planks should be flush with each other at the transom as well. druxey, the model does not show a fashion piece below the wale, which I found odd. I also thought the rectangular piece at the stern represented the transom, rather than a fashion piece.
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Finally, the second planking belt is completed. My biggest decision was whether to have the aft planking feather out at the transom or leave it erose. I saw examples from this era using both approaches and could not make out the detail on the model. I decided to continue to feather the planks. Those of you who are wiser than I, please correct me if I am wrong, as it would not take too much work to go the other route. I removed the transom planking and will re-plank it after the hull planking is completed. Only six more rows to go!
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The NRG is pleased to announce that we will be offering a calendar for 2021. These pictures represent some of the best models being produced by members of the Guild and MSW. Some of these pictures have never been published. AVAILABLE FROM THE NRG STORE
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Thanks, Greg. Tricky would be one word. A right-royal-pain-in-the-*** would be another.
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I reached a milestone today: the first planking belt has been completed. So far, I am pleased with the appearance. For anyone toying with the idea of building a clinker- planked hull, I am finding this a lot more difficult than carvel construction. There is no room for error and edge-bending that last half-millimeter does not work the way is would on a carvel hull. I have found that the easiest way to secure the planks during gluing-up is with planking screws, placing a piece of scrap between the cross-piece of the planking screw and the plank to prevent denting. My layout has a butt joint at frame M. I decided that this was too far forward and placed a basswood filler between frames K and M. The first belt has four rows of planking; the upper two belts will each have five. So far it appears that a stealer will not be necessary but I will have a dropped plank in the upper belt.
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Thanks, Paul.
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After you posted, I went back to my discs and noticed the same problem. The situation is as follows: you (and I) have the original discs from the early 2000's sold by Clay Feldman. The discs sold by the NRG are not the same. The NRG Early Years disc includes the information on the 4 discs sold by Clay. The Middle and Later Years discs contain the remaining volumes. The NRG indices work on Win 7 and 10; Clay's discs only work on XP. To view these articles you would need to have the Later Years disc.
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Thank you to everyone for the likes. JD, I am using diluted yellow glue. And yes, I am gluing along the rabbet as well as on the bulkhead. I tried it with gluing just the bulkhead for fear of glue bleeding out onto the hull but that was a disaster. Waiting for the glue to become tacky has prevented any problems.
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