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Depends on how you spent the 60s!

Ah ha, now I know the name for my condition! looking forward to the pictures

I remember those days when our two sons were on two soccer teams and we had to figure out how to make two games on opposite sides of town at the same time! Can't imagine how you do it with three players!

That's about all that's silent! At least when I do it.

Sorry John It's a little late for that now! I spent the last couple of nights hacken and whackin and in general making splinters just in case I need kindling for that Viking funeral. I stripped the two lower wale planks and after cleaning up the residue laid new new 5 mm planks. As I don't have planks this size that are as thick as i needed I double planked them to bring them up to the same thickness as the first wale I had left in place. I now have wales that are 18" wide instead of something like 24" when I was supposed to have 16"! I can live with two scale inches off. (About 1 mm) the planking is not as tight as the original but I will need to add additional thickness later anyway so i can deal with that then. It was only after I did all this that I realized that I could have just left it all alone and just added the proper sized wales over what I already had and been done with it! No need to do all the stripping! Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees! In addition I have not been happy with the entire quarterdeck look since I installed the wales. It just didn't look right. I was also concerned that I had raised it too far. While standing on the main deck, the quarter deck was about shoulder high to a 6' man. Not quite high enough to walk directly in without ducking or having a raised entry. I could have kept this, After Millar had designed the present day Replica with a full height quarter cabin. But almost all the admittedly small information I have about the Providence is against this kind of cabin. So in order to make a somewhat long story a little shorter. I ripped up the entire quarterdeck roof and returned it to it's original height. This makes the height of the quarterdeck above the main deck only about 3.5 feet and to me it looks much more proper. I also left the Poop deck about 12" higher so now there is a raised poop section where the helmsman will work. That arrangement makes me feel much better about the entire rear half of the ship, and the two stage quarterdeck with the raised tiller platform was really quite common in 1767. So now that the chips have settled down a little i am pretty much back to where i was a few weeks ago! I need to visit the hobby shop as I don't think i have a large enough piece of thin ply to make a new sub-quarterdeck. When I get that done I will start planking for real and make it all start looking more like a real ship. At least that is the intent. We will have to see if the skill is there to make it happen. I should have some pictures next time. Until then thanks for stopping in and looking.

Hi Denis Great job as usual. Are you sure you don't want to borrow some of my ship yard Minions to help with your build? They screw up work cheap!

Nice work Denis. I like the way you dealt with big fingers/small parts by leaving them on the sprue until done.

Hi Neal You make me feel like a walking fossil! I hardly understood a sentence beyond the first paragraph!

Al Even though when looking at it in the profile shots I can't help but get the image in my mind that it should be walking off the table shortly like some sort of prehistoric centipede, your hull is obviously looking very nice and well refined. One nice feature about POF over POB is that the shape is so much more defined even before you start planking.

Sam Is it OK if I attend your kindergarten class next year? Sounds like fun!

I was afraid of that. If I had used two of the 5 mm kit planks like I originally looked at I would have been pretty much right on. By going to the thicker planks I also had to use the 7 mm wide planks so now I am at about 24" instead of 16"! Too great of a difference to stay. That means I will either have to cut off 1/2 of the lower strake plank or remove it and replace it with a narrower plank. That's what I get for building first and asking later. Hopefully that won't happen too often, but knowing me it almost surly will! I have the MS book on planking along with Lord knows how many other sources if instruction. I am relatively sure I can do it, in fact I KNOW I can do it by just cutting and fitting. I have done that method of planking even though it was over twenty something years ago, but a hull is a hull. It is just the doing it in the approved manner that is an unknown approach for me. If I was planing on making it a double planked hull I could still do it the "old" way. Why would it matter at this stage? But i am still hoping my efforts will be adequate. Looks like another one step forward and two back time.

Sam Say congratulations to the kids for me for an excellent diorama by ANYONES standards. If I had not seen the little hands at work myself I would have thought you had done it yourself!

Now you done and did it Dowmer, starting to add authenticity and documentation to the build! I do have a few questions though. when he uses "2 strakes 16" wide" does he mean combined width or total width? Where would the 3 X 8" rubbing rail be located on the wale, top,bottom, or somewhere in between? I always thought the wale WAS the rubbing rail hence It's location along the widest part of the hull above the waterline and thicker lumber. On the other sizes I am hoping they are all thickness measurements and not width as I really didn't want to go out and buy a bunch of lumber, (One of the reasons I started with altering the kit rather than starting from scratch). The wood provided is 5 mm wide working out to 9" scale width. All I can say at this point is that the 5 mm "LOOKS" OK. (Remember TLAR?) Keep it coming, I am in desperate need of the education! Hi Al I have to be critical of myself as you guys are far too nice to tell me if I am producing a complete piece of junk, and if I am not careful I WILL get lazy and accept stuff that I know is wrong or I have the ability to do better. I know that there are others who can do it better, (Almost anyone) but I am talking about always trying for MY best, whatever that is. There is also the possibility that once the hull is fully planked it will be too late! That's my nightmare!

Hi John "looks great considering what was in your minds eye" Unfortunately there are places where that is not true and it seems I am always rocking between back tracking and Viking funeral! Possibly the only reason the Viking funeral has not won out is that I am cheap by nature, and the hull won't float yet! There is a flaw in the basic design that has been bugging me for a week now that no one has commented on yet but is glaring to me! I am just now getting an idea of how to properly correct it. Hi Dowmer Our offline conversations have been invaluable, and now that we have cought up in history/research and concept are becoming even more so. There is nothing like a sounding board to help bring thoughts alive. The wood I used for the wales is not from the kit as the Independence did not have the wide wales and nothing was provided. I had to grab some thicker and wider stock from my stash/ The size I think was 6 X 1.5 mm verses the 5 X 1 mm supplied in the kit for first planking. Later I will still need to add a second planking over the wales to make them even thicker. The remainder of the hull will be done with the standard kit planking. Hi Denis You are right about that! The bend around the bow is a doozy! It is pretty scary and requires not only the bend, but a twist and a curve at the same time! I had to take it a fraction of an inch at a time to get it done. I am sure glad I had to fill in the bow with Balsa, as it has made it much easier. I still have a bunch of skills to acquire in order to do an acceptable job on the stuff still to come. Thanks everyone for stopping in and looking. I need to go and do some stuff for the Admiral now. Later

Scott The smarter online sellers realize that customer relations on line is just as important on line as it is in person if they want the customer to return. the not having to send to item back is because by the time they pay the shipping as Amazon requires them to do they end up paying more than the paint is worth to them. Glad it worked out for you.

Well I suppose it is time to revive what is starting to look like a dead build. Sorry but a lot of stuff just has sort of happened all of a sudden and things have been a bit out of control for the last couple of months. Not that I really ever have control around here even in the best of times. So the wales are in and I have established the planking lines for the rest of the hull, for better or worse. I also planked in the counter so that the planks would terminate properly. Doesn't look like much i know but things have been kind of upside down and it was about all I could get done. Hope this shows I have been working a little bit at least.

Hi Piet Sorry i missed you for some reason some posts just don't show up until later. Thanks for the encouragement though.

To bad you have to contend with this in addition to only getting weekends to work on her!

Good to hear the no salad veggie was a joke. Not only do I trust good old meat eaters better but I would hate to see you starve to death. Go ahead and enjoy your sunshine, we are having mixed days here, one sunny and the other rainy, kind of normal for us though. Not too many signs of global warming yet this year. Looking forward to your next steps.

So what do you eat if you are a veggie OC? Anything new on the self propelled sewer pipe?

Sam Welcome back. Looking forward to seeing your progress again this summer.

Not unless the scale was bigger or the item on the ship was bigger! You are doing fine, by the time you are done it will be old hat.

That would just mean you would have to install more PE Denis!

That is on my bucket list. Sail on her on one of her transition trips from here to California or the other way around. Takes something like four or five days and worth every minute in my opinion!