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Your ability to reliably reproduce your color of choice is nothing short of astounding!

Not always https://www.sfgate.com/weather/article/Ocean-Beach-SF-big-waves-US-Coast-Guard-boats-13472152.php Not as fancy as your YouTube videos, but scrolling though the first 7 pictures forms an idea of what I watched, only the boats were 44 footers.

Do you have a picture of the awl Tim? I know what an awl looks like I was just curious on how fine or small it is.

WOW, you are a regular brick laying, (Or is that stone laying) machine Kevin. I am trying to envision where this is going but it is certain that it is going to be a grand city!

It makes me feel cold just reading this Jack. My blood stops flowing at 35 degrees, and I melt at 80. We are supposed to be in the mid to upper 40s with rain for the weekend.

Somewhere between 25 and 30 years ago I had the opportunity to watch the 44' boats located in San Francisco work out in waves even bigger than the one in that display in Oregon. There were two boats and they kept taking turns running the waves at all sorts of angles time after time. In the hour or so I watched them I don't think they did a complete roll over but it sure looked like they were trying their best. They certainly got to more than 45 degrees a couple of times! It was a show that to be honest I would have paid money to watch. I was told that they "Practiced" that way quite often.

That is one beastly vehicle, and it is not even a tank! Very nice looking work Edward

Thanks El I'm a bit of a dummy when it comes to post WWII and modern Navy

Great paintings as always Jim. Do you know what the gear on the fantails of both destroyers is? All I could think of for the time period would be a DASH helicopter, but that would have been located forward of the aft turret where the torpedo tubes used to be. This looks more like mine sweeping gear or something. Could it be some kind of SONAR tow gear?

I have been inspired on a model choice from books I read, movies, even stories related by others. In a few cases it was nothing more than the fact that I liked the looks of the kit subject, but a jar of paint????????? That's a new one for me.

Is there any chance you could just give up in the plywood bulwarks and scratch new ones using planks instead?

Your next build would probably need to have HMS if you source the plans from the NMM. You could consider Chuch's USF Confederacy through Model shipways. I know...... A kit but what a kit, and it is US Colonial Revolution!

Nice done. Very hard to see that they are even paper.

??????????? Are you referring to the plans being the ones developed by John F. Millar and company for the creation of the present day Providence, (The ones you used) or the total lack of plans for the original 1775 ship? It is clear that the research on proper Continental Ensigns is pretty much as complicated as the research on the vessels. Definitely more extensive than I have done up to this date. I can't remember the exact date I read somewhere but, I think that the number of stars remained fixed at fifteen for a number of years and it was not until the early 1800s when it was decided to add a star for each state and keep the thirteen stripes for the original states.

Unfortunately the Holman painting was also done by a person who had never seen the ship in question. One of the reasons for so many "Interpretations" of the US naval Ensign of the time was that the design was primarily relayed from one point in the world to another by written or even verbal description. Arthur Lee, Franklin, and Adams in France at the time all wrote descriptions that stated the flag had red, white, and blue stripes even though this pattern was never advocated by the Continental Congress. That is one of the nice things, (And frustrating) about building the Providence. There is so little surviving documentation about her that almost any interpretation is acceptable. She is certainly high on Chapelle's list of ship models that should not be built. Just for my own edification, could you PM me a link on the Grand Union flag with red and green stripes? Like I said before, I am totally ignorant of this version. Never mind, I think I found a reference of those colors being used in 1776 by Esek Hopkins for the Delaware Bay Fleet. It is a little confusing in that it says that there is reference also of the red, white, and blue, AND the red and whit stripes being used as well.

I have always wondered why people chose to paint the inside bulwarks of Continental Navy ships the same as British or French ships. It is colorful and for those countries certainly almost a mandate as far as I know. But the Continental Navy ships were mostly purchased merchant ships like the Providence or privateers. Relatively few were built from the keel up as warships. For flags, you have a number of choices I think. The Providence when sailing as the Katy for Rhode Island flew the state flag or possibly the New England Naval Ensign that had the red white and blue stripes you refer to, but has a pine tree in the field. It is also possible that she could have flown the Washington's Cruiser Flag at this time. When she was sold to the Continental Congress in December 1775 it is probable that she adopted the Continental Grand Union flag with the Union jack and 13 stripes that had been adopted in October. At the time of the Nassau raid in March of 1776, there is almost no question that she was flying the Grand union flag as part of Hopkins fleet, but there is still a chance that she may have carried the "Don't Tread On Me" flag as well, as that flag was the Marine flag of the time. I don't know what the policy was when carrying a large contingent of marines at the time. The red white and blue flag you mention is normally referred to as the Ensign of the Brig Lexington, As far as I know the only painting of the Providence flying the Lexington flag was in a painting by John Mecray of the episode between the Providence and the Cerberus in 1776. Mecray is a modern artist and I am not certain what reference he used for the painting, or if it is accurate. I know of no other reference where the Providence would be flying that flag. I don't know of any flag with green stripes so can't even have a comment let alone an opinion on that flag. There is also the argument that these were early times in the US and almost anything could be possible, after all John Paul Jones raised the "Serapis Ensign" over the captured Serapis and it doesn't match any of the flags we are talking about here.

Interesting concept and I agree that the figures are appealing. It sounds like the storyline is possibly from a video game or something. If it was a book or books I think it would enjoy getting and reading it/them. Sounds a little like the Mad Max series.

Nice looking choices. Is the figure from some movie or book?

I have read much the same about the color being all black with no figurehead. There was a second reference, also British that also refers to her being black. My thinking on the matter was that she was either all black, or that possibly the gun port strip of each side was possibly scrapped, making it a "lighter" black with the taffrail and rub rail being retained in the original black. I was also of the mind that the inner bulwarks were possibly not black but could have been green or brown. There was very little money in the Continental navy to deal much with items like paint and prettiness. It is even clear that ships that operated together frequently were not painted to a common theme like British ships normally were. It was really a ragtag fleet if there ever was one. Your build is progressing beautifully Ken.

The idea is to install the parts. NOT to lose them! It's called kit BUILDING for a reason.

those are just 5 mile per hour bumpers Craig.......................................... They are five miles away from the car presently.

Good to see you making progress on this again Denis. It is coming out quite nice.

That profile shot really shows off your additional PE work. Very nice!

Sure glad I am just getting sat down for dinner Ken, you are making my mouth water! Not barbecued but tonight it steak with mushrooms night!

Back then it was rats not a virus.