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Naval History On This Day, Any Nation
realworkingsailor replied to Kevin's topic in Nautical/Naval History
It the wabbits! They got him! -
Augie.... Unless someone comes out with a kit of HM Snow Ontario.... I am destined to go down that road anyway... In the mean time.... There are still a few kits out there that will require my....uh.... attention... Andy
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John... It's more a feeling that I could do even better, given proper tools. Michael... I'll see what I can do... But you have to promise not to laugh Andy
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Naval History On This Day, Any Nation
realworkingsailor replied to Kevin's topic in Nautical/Naval History
The significance of the sinking of the Belgrano (Beyond the human toll) Is that it remains the only ship to be sunk in war time by a nuclear powered submarine. -
Anyway.. back to the task at hand... Finished off the heavy work on the bowsprit. I guess there's nothing for it but to get on with the main topmast.. Andy
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Well.. You can be forgiven for the confusion... But to set the record straight for everyone.. I have no admiralty to answer to... Mostly because my career doesn't allow for much of a social life... Not that I ever had much of one to begin with... But last I heard, what was left of mine checked in with the coroner's office sometime about 10 years ago and hasn't been seen since... Andy
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Egad here we go again.... Andy
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realworkingsailor replied to Kevin's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Of course you'd have to photoshop that big R-14 off the conning tower first -
Watch out Augie! I can attest.. wabbit thumbscrews are very very painfull... They'll make you confess all sorts of past misdemeanors and misdeeds.... Andy
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Heh heh.. Grant, you can up that score a little bit.. The third battle of the fore topmaest had been effectively won... I hope... just some finishing touches to smooth out a few nicks left over from my method of hand tapering. I don't like tapering blind, so at a couple of places along the length of the mast, I filed down "reference rings" to whatever diameter was needed at that point.. I find if keeps the taper from going "pear shaped". After that I felt I needed a change of pace and went after the bowsprit... nothing like a change of pace . Getting that end bit for the bees was a challenge... carefull marking, sanding, carving... managed to make it through with all digits intact... and a lot of dust on the bench... Still some work to do cleaning the last bits up, but overall I'm happy... Next ship I'm definately getting a lathe and learning how to use it... (not on the ship of course.... ) Andy
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They really are the same thing, but turnbuckles are generally open sided and bottlescrews are closed. Andy
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I didn't know I had a tourist destination..... Andy
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Really nice work, Sjors. Andy
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Wayne, I don't disagree about the mast caps.. Thing is.. I was relatively ignorant on the subject and had already assembled the lowers masts when I got that part figured out... So I'm going to be happy with what I've done and leave that part of the kit as is. It really does not bother me enough to change it. Augie... It is all a test who is more stubborn and hard headed.... Me or a piece of wood... The wood may put up a fight... But I've got all the tools with sharp pointy edges.... Jim, yes it is good to be back where all the frustration is entirely self generated.... Andy
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What's next? Bottlescrews and turnbuckles? Senhouse Slips? Absolutly amazing Andy
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Incredible build, but given your talent and skill, I was half expecting to see a V8 in the engine compartment Andy
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Hmm.... did the wabbits get to that last post Kevin? Did they sail off with your Victory without you? Andy
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Don't get discouraged, there are alot of people around here who are very interested in what you're doing. Don't even worry about the "numbers" Andy
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Well... a modicum of progress.. this time by hand alone... Fore Topmast #3 (#1 The original made with kist supplied bits, #2 See Above) now squared down at the top and sanded down and rounded so the cap now slides all the way down to where it is supposed to sit. Next step, I'm going to take a file and turn down the mast to the diameter required below the hounds and taper to that point from both directions... sounds like not fun and a lot of dust... if I haven't made enough already... and I have to do this how many more times?!
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Hey Augie... Seen any groundhogs your way lately? Last trip down the seaway, passing through one of the locks near Montreal.. Saw a whole field full... Darned near a dozen or more! Wanted to go all "North Korea" on their @@@es (euphemistically speaking)... Andy
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Well I've never used a lathe...period... So this is all good info for me... I think I'm going to at least try to do one by hand... Although Mark's suggestion of going slower might help.. I was using a regular plug-in drill.... maybe the battery has charged up on my cordless.... Agh...I dunno... Tomorrow's another day.... Andy
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Well I've got this down to two options: 1) Do all shaping and tapering by hand (most likely) 2) Buckle and purchase a hobby lathe (and really make a mess).... BTW, there's still a shed load of work to do on the masts and tops.. Including paintwork... No laser char shall be seen by mortal eyes when I'm done.... And Augie...I don't think in my case it matters.... As I tried to allude to before... Even before I touched my file to the dowel.... Yikes... Andy
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So.. as promised.. and attempt at progress... sort of... I got right down to working those nice square cherry strips... and learned a few lessons... The first bit went ok.. got the section I cut for the fore topmast planed down to 6mm, easy. Got the doubled section filed down to 5mm... great... things where looking up at that stage... and then... I tried to turn down the rest of the mast... There is a lathe in the shed... but it's very old... I think it may date back to the 30s.. it's belt driven.... it's missing more parts than I can count.. and I don't think it runs.. So, I thought to myself... everyone else seems to be doing it, so why can't I use an electric drill instead. So, game as a pebble, propped the dril up in the bench vice, chucked my nice piece of masting in and gave it a spin... and watched as that nice piece of cherry wobbled all over the place (I think the radius of the wobble at the end was something like 4 inches). Stopped the drill... (obviously..duh ) Thinking I may have inadvertently inserted the mast incorrectly, readjusted everything and tried again. Much better.. got the wobble down to 1/2". I thought.. "I can work with this"... Then I applied sand paper.... (Keep in mind that up to this point there was no damage done...) I think a rodeo cowbow has it easier trying to get on a bull..... Well... I think the last two photos illustrate exactly where that little experiment went... As for lessons learned... Always buy more strip than you think you need (I figure I needed about 18", I did buy over 6 feet of 6.5mm cherry) When you plane down a piece... plane the whole piece.. or at least enough to do a couple sections... Buy a dang lathe and do it right... or find out from someone who's done it with a drill,how they did it... So back to square one... oh well... better luck next time... Andy
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