Veszett Roka

All original! Brilliant! Your big little boy will be proud of you. And i hope a bit jealous, too :)

Hi Bill,

very good looking ship, you performed awesome salvaging work. For the deck, cannot it be recovered by sanding? Just for authenticity of the 50 years kit.

I'm a bit skeptic about that the boat was towed all time. This is a sure path to lose the espingen in high sea, despite the fact that weather was not factor in Wasa's entire life. What i know they used the yards to lift the boat up from the sea:

https://www.quora.com/How-were-longboats-jolly-boats-hauled-on-board-16th-or-17th-century-sailing-ship

Contrary, the dinghy is not modelled on board in Vasamuseet 1:10 :

18 hours ago, Bill97 said:

I think next I  going to paint the lifeboat and fabricate the davits for it (not included in kit). Then move on to some of the lower stay rigging before adding the next mast sections. 

Hi Bill,

There was no davits for the boat. They hanged the boat up to the mainmast forestay, but those ropes weren't a permanent installation, used only on demand.

It is still better than my first planking was, generally. Sanding and filling will produce a smooth surface, if the vessel will be double planked (veneer on top) then it is almost ready to the second layer. If not, if this is the final body then filler is a must anyhow, so i consider this as a great start Halvor.

Wow. Simply wow.

Hi Bill,

As the kit is 50 years old, I'd consider the glue first. If it is still hard enough and the planks aren't loose cement somewhere, i would leave the planking intact. Some sanding will be needed at the bow however, but after painting it will be neat.
 

Welcome here. You're a lucky man, sometimes i wish to reach retirement age, and have time for anything. Enjoy the ride!

On 3/26/2021 at 2:31 PM, yvesvidal said:

 

 Wow, look at that hull, quite a prominent bulb in the front....

 

Hi there Yves,

you might saw THIS already

(Well, the antifouling is not on its best 🙃 )

4 hours ago, Halvor said:

 

 I assume most of the time a ship model will be displayed starboard to the viewer? 😁

 

It depends on many things. If the boat going westward, then port side will shown. Also, same for all boat what has left-handed captain, but left handed first mate must shown on starboard. Additionally, please be careful: boats and ships before 3200BC always presented on starboard, at that time the portside wasn't yet invented, even for hieroglyph men too 😁

Welcome to the community Halvor!

Calypso had four blade props here:

this is a still picture from 1977 short film "Calypso's search for Britannic"

Cheers,

Miki

On 2/28/2021 at 4:40 AM, gak1965 said:

I've seen people do good things with thermoplastic sails, but not me. I left them out of my Connie and there weren't any in the Passat. 

Same here. Thermoplastic sails are good to form cloth or paper sails (depends on the scale i think). Personally i prefer the furled sails, not to cover too much rigging. I usually made the furled sails from paper tissues, but i have cloth too - which need to cut half size due the scale, full size sails are too thick when "rolled" up.

Simply stunning. I cannot find words.

3 hours ago, gak1965 said:

 With regard to the ratlines, the Passat instructions suggested using all 5 shrouds, the real ship (as currently configured uses the 3 central shrouds, periodically extending to the exterior 2. I don't know if there are good pictures indicating how they were rigged on Preussen.

 

 

Hi George,

however this is not a great picture, but it shows the foremast quite well. The ratlines - same like the real Passat - are using the middle 4 shrouds and periodically lengthten to the outer 2. Your Passat instruction shows all 5 shrouds ratlines, because the instruction made for Pamir (if we are talking the same Revell/Heller kit), as the whole Passat kit is a renamed Pamir kit. Just compare the hawse pipes on the bow.

Cheers,

Miki

Great! Will the hop culture be enough to produce some great hand-crafted beer?

On 1/5/2021 at 9:39 AM, DORIS said:

 

Doris,

This is the most emotional picture i've ever seen. Especially knowing a bit more of what behind.

-miki

I'm so sorry Doris, so sorry. You can be sure he is smiling at You and the ship altogether.

This is not shipmodelling. This is ART.

I'm jealous too. Wish i had such friendly place. Also loving your car registration plate.

Awesome. The inn is really nice, and now i know the evolution. Sit-in restaurant on front, drive-in takeaway at the rear side

 Simply beautiful.

3 hours ago, Backer said:

   (I made an attempt to put a bottle and 2 cups on the crate. But on a scale of 1/110 it did not work out very well)

 

No, they are perfectly recognizable. Need to give some fine spirit to the inspector, to start a long work

Excellent small diorama! Just two figures, a small crate, small blueprint and it tells a full story in the shipyard. First i was skeptic about the dull colors and rusted copper, but now all has meanings. Congratulations Patrick!

Hope you fully recovered now from C19?

greets

Miki

10 hours ago, Ian_Grant said:

Thank you Miki for the pictures of the other model Preussen.  Looks nice!  I'm not looking forward to tying all the clove hitches for ratlines on five masts!  Do you think the lower mast stays shown are accurate, with both sides running separately as opposed to being seized together at each end (more like the topmast stays)?

 

I see this modeller installed chain futtocks whereas I depict solid bar. Wonder what they really were?

 

Wonder how this modeller ultimately routed the lower braces to the winches? Speaking of which, look at the  detail  on those brace winches!

 

I love the wire railings on the after storm gangway, and I see the auxiliary bridge lacks those mystery "buckets" Heller molded in. Perhaps I will just cut those edges off.

 

This model's deck furniture is painted in the more sombre tones recommended by Heller, not "flashy" like mine 🙂

 

Are going to put a "Pamir" build log on the forum? I'd like to watch your progress.

 

Speaking of which, does your kit have the same problematic ladders as mine? (See my earlier post).

 

 

Hi Ian,

At least on Peking they were seized together - but i was on her deck back in 1994, and her condition was pathetic at time. I believe both scheme is correct, i can imagine that they tried both and used the better solution. If i'd be the ship designer, i'd use doubled single lines (e.g clove heads on both ends of the stays) because the pictured single stays (on model Preussen) would fail if any side cracks off. Seizing could reduce that danger too - but on other hands the continously grazing stays could grate each other which is not a factor for single lines.

The clove hitches... i think i will glue them instead of tying on my Pamir. Or maybe false tying secured with PVA.. dont know yet, and also i'll have to do it  on 4 masts only

Also, let me claim Peking for futtocks. They were solid rods for sure on that ship, i believe the rigid bars are accurate. Which is not exclude chains on Preussen though, i can imagine mixed (rods and chains) solution too. As i remember Pamir's instructions Heller suggest to use simple ropes on that (which is incorrect, i'd use copper wire then).

I am not planning to start a building log here for two reasons, well maybe three. First, the hull is almost completed, some tiny details, cargo cranes, boats need to attach still, but i will fix them after the rigging completed. I think they were obstruct me during the belaying. Second, that build log would be a dead one, nowadays i have very little time for our beloved hobby (psst... I read the forum during working hours, but don't tell anyone!), no one wants to wait several months to a new update i think. And third, my mistakes. I did many mistake on the model which need to address first. The masts are just dark gray primed, and still i'm missing the final ochre glossy paint, but time at first!

Cheers big ears,

Miki

18 minutes ago, lmagna said:

But what if Ekis puts trees in, then what?

eeer.... 😄