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Love the time and effort you are putting into the oarsmen and their bench seats etc Richard; it will make for very realistic detail on the model. cheers Pat -
Looks good Glen, she'll be afloat before you know it cheers Pat
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Nice work mate; looks good. I like the yard trusses; very well made. cheers Pat
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
Thanks John. Hi Keith, the whole is made from wood. The hull was carved from a block then hollowed out to shape; then the lining simulating cork covered with canvas) added. I have still to add duckboards, lifting gear etc. We have omitted the tholes at the moment as they are so small art this scale - but I am tempted to do this when I add the pre-painted (vermillion) rubbing strakes and boat badges in the bow. I have yet to come to grips whether hanging loops would have been included with the rubbing strakes, for men to hang onto or assist their scrambling into the boat. The UK Life Saving boats were starting to show them, but not evident in the NMM model. cheers Pat
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HMCSS Victoria 1855 by BANYAN - 1:72
BANYAN replied to BANYAN's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1851 - 1900
While I have been continuing to research the rigging outfit, another member has completed a remake of one of the lifeboat-cutters. The Victoria carried two, one of 27' the other 30' - the remake was to correct the length of the second one as we found that info a little later. I have still to add a vermillion painted rubbing strake, the falls hook on/slinging points and a few details, such as boat badges, masts, ropes, bailers, etc. These boats had cork, covered with canvas, floatation in the bow, stern and along the sides which is why they look so 'full/thick'. cheers Pat
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Great news, good to see models being displayed at such important venues. The Bridge mini-diorama looks great. cheers Pat
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Great to see the update and hear you are on the right track with your little beauty. cheers Pat
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Great progress and some nice work there mate; looks good. cheers Pat
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It still amazes me how those masts retained sufficient strength after having a sheave cut through them; your piccy illustrates just how little 'meat' was left to either side. You're making great progress Vlad, I am enjoying following along. cheers Pat
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Love the bread-and-butter building technique you use for these miniatures Glen; a clever way to achieve the right look. cheers Pat
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Very nice work Vladimir, coming on very nicely. cheers Pat
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Those are some impressive results Greg; when it gets to sharp end, just like car concourse judging, they get very 'picky, too picky for my anti-rivet counting approach. cheers Pat
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Hi all, those following my Victoria build will be familiar with my quest to make sense of some of the rigging (and item combinations) listed in the Rigging Warrant. By chance I came across a couple of articles which may be of interest to other members but offers a few clues for the rig used by the Victoria also. One of the primary concerns I had was the provision of vertical wirerope jackstays on a couple of her masts, which did not tie in with any of the contemporary literature from the likes of Burney, Nares, Luce, Kipping and Fincham. These articles, while a little after Victoria's building, show the emergence of rigs designed to be handled from the deck; for example, furl from the deck or lower top rather than sending men aloft. Rigs in this era were under continual development, therefore, I am reasonably comfortable that the designs offered by the two articles I have found are a sound basis for my assumptions. I have a way to go yet searching for more and earlier examples, but there is sufficient information to show that it is probable that Victoria used these jackstays to guide the upper masts down to the lower yard. The sails of the upper yards were bent/laced by their foot to the yard below rather than above, allowing the sails to be lowered to be furled. The upper yards were also rigged, using tricing tackles and the jackstays, to allow the top, topgallant and royal yards to lower to the lower yard. This makes some sense of the rigging listed but not entirely, so it is probable that an early version of this was employed - if only I could find..... For those interested, here are two proposed rigging designs (the latter definitely not used in Victoria😞). if anyone has access to copies of the Mitchell Maritime Register (now part of Lloyds records I think) I would appreciate knowing if there are earlier proposed designs included. The attached designs will have developed from earlier concepts and practices, so the use of jackstays to guide the lowering of yards without sending men aloft must have been emerging earlier than 1870. cheers Pat Edit: P.S. I have extracted the relevant (deleting blank pages) from the Google Books sourced book, and the later Newspaper article is from the Australian National Library Newspaper digitisation project through their TROVE portal. Many thanks for both for maintaining these as free services.) New Rig for Steamers_RB Forbes_1883.pdf A New Rig for Steamerships_TROVE_1871.pdf
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Congrats Greg, great to see your efforts rewarded. Some pretty fancy trophies, the group must be well funded or sponsored. cheers Pat
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Hope all went well mate, both the trip (all models arrived and returned safely), and the show? cheers Pat
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Thanks for the response Vlad, the simplest pf solutions is often the best cheers Pat
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Good luck Rob, I wish you every success in your efforts. cheers Pat
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Like the shackle you have made Vladimir, how did you do that? I have been able to do the main body but replicating a forelocked pin has eluded me cheers Pat
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Great process Rob, I have been mucking around trying to form my 'boots' and having a lot of problems due to the severe rake of Victoria's masts. I also have to make some boom rests/shoulders on the mast with the same angle/orientation - I will give sculpting them a go I think. Nice work on your boots etc Vladimir, you offer an alternate method to consider but I think with 15 degrees of rake on the mizen, the moulding may be the better option to try first. Your build is coming on very nicely. cheers Pat
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What a wonderful ride this build has been. Congrats on a first-class build Keith; it has been a joy to see your progress and high-quality work. She looks wonderful and so accuratly reflects the actual yacht. cheers Pat
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Great to see you start on this little beauty Tony; look forward to seeing her progress with much interest. Your efforts of lofting should produce a nicely faired hull. As John says, a pity to see she has 'gone'. cheers Pat
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Thanks Dave, very effective technique - had me fooled More nice work on that hatch. cheers Pat
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