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Ear, breasthook, and transom knees in place. Allan
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There are drawings of masts and spars from RMG in high resolution on the Wiki Commons site. Allan
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Very cool! The most interesting thing I ever found when digging our veggie garden MANY years ago were three ceramic insulators and a racoon skeleton. Your find is WAYYYY better. Allan
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Thanks Mark, Now we have another challenge in our model making if we so choose, made spars to go with more commonly seen made masts. I doubt more than a small few will do this, but it would be interesting to see how they would make them at our scales and how well they turn out. Allan
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Sorry I have no answer for your question regarding the frame height. But, I do have a question for you as you have piqued my curiosity. What is the object you are using as a weight in the photo. If you mentioned it already and I missed it, my apologies. Allan
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hello -old shipbuilder signing in for first time
allanyed replied to manning16's topic in New member Introductions
Welocme aboard John, It was a great pleasure chatting on the phone John, including my very minor and your major driving experiences in auto racing. I look forward to meeting at an upcoming Naples area club meeting. Allan -
Until recently I have never seen a yard constructed of multiple pieces. The contemporary plan, figure #1, below has scarphed end pieces rather than a yard made of a single piece. It is from a British 74 gun ship of 1779. Does anyone know of other instances where this might have been common practice? At most common scales this would be visible but I have yet to see it on a contemporary or modern day model. I realize it is probably not of much importance for our scales, but I am curious about this. It is almost as if the legend on the left is mislabled as it calls it a main yard of 22 5/8" diameter TIA Allan
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I am thoroughly enjoying your build log and your willingness to press forward when finding a problem! In order to avoid a confrontation with the Admiral if you happen to use HER hair dryer, there are industrial heat guns with a higher heat capability for $20 or less. (Don't overdo, it can burn the wood) Allan
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Looking for correctly scaled lines and rope
allanyed replied to Michael Smith's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
For masts, spars, and rigging line sizes go to the spread sheet (based on David Lees' formulas) in the articles database here at MSW developed by Danny Vadas. Except for the period 1670-1710 it works very well. For that specific time period it is completely wrong and should not be used. Allan -
I thought you might find the below transcription of the original contract for the Elephant 1786 which was originally written in 1781 and which has the as-built scantlings that were added to the contract at time of her launching. Let me if it this doc file opens OK for you. If it does not, please feel free to PM me with your email address (mine is in my profile) and I can email it as an attachment as a doc or pdf Allan CONTRACT Elephant 74 gun 1781.docx
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Re-worked location of the clamps, beams, and platform planks. Allan
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Druxey, turns out that is one part of the issue of the shape, but there was another problem in the platform shape that I found when checking this out after seeing Craig's really nice drawing. When I marked the lines for the clamps it was from the top of the gunwale to the top of the clamp. I then made and glued the clamps such that the bottom of the clamps where on the marked line. This put the clamps about 6 inches too high and resulting shape. I have removed the platform, beams, and clamps and will hopefully have them remade and replaced in short order. I could have left it as is but the distance from the benches and platform would be 1/8" too short and look pretty bad. Better to have a do-over in this case. Allan
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Welcome to MSW If you research Elephant 1786 at the RMG Collections site, there are a dozen low resolution contemporary plans including deck plans and inboard profile that you can use to get exact dimensions in all three axes. There is also a full set of high resolution drawings of 74's from the same period at the Wiki Commons site which includes Hannibal 1786, Venerable 1784, Victorious 1785, and Theseus 1786. Allan
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Legos work in a lot of instances. Machinest squares work better in other cases. As for your situation Legos may not be well suited. I look forward to seeing your solution. As to examples, there are many hundreds of build logs here at MSW, some of which have photos of their building set up. They can be as sophisticated as that shown by Ed Tosti in his build logs or something simpler but using the same principals. If you spend some hours perusing the build logs you might find something you feel fits your needs. Look at the both scratch bulit and kit build logs. Allan
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Me too. Allan
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Welcome to MSW. You can make a simple jig fixture to hold everything straight while assembling the various parts. It can be set up so you can take the boat out of the fixture to glue on a part, then back into the fixture to hold everything true while the glue dries. Allan
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Very well done model BE. Your research time has paid off to be sure, including the work you put into the shape of the oars. Great job!! Allan
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Aft platform planked.
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7380 shows it perfectly. Also note that not every thwart is fixed and with knees. Some drawings show no knees so it is difficult to tell which, if any, are fixed. Thanks Craig. Allan
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Looking for correctly scaled lines and rope
allanyed replied to Michael Smith's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
The gurus of micro scales may be of help, especially including wire rope as Bob has mentioned. If you find a used copy of a book by Donald McNarry and or Lloyd McCaffery these may be of a big help for you. There are copies on the cheap on line. The rope is one thing, making to-scale realistic looking blocks at that scale is another challenge in which they delve. Allan -
Absolutely no apologies needed. I was just curious if you had found some easier way to navigate the Wiki Commons archives of plans and I thank you most heartily for contributing to this discussion. I truly hope so, but the only way I can see this happening is if MSW will put this in the Articles data base or some other convenient place for all members to access all the files, as well as to allow it to grow as new contemporary high res plans become available. If you have a way to improve on what I have been able to do so far PLEASE PM me as I am all ears!! Hopefully we can make it better and easier for everyone to access. Allan
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Can anyone tell me what this small rectangular object is? One thing that seems a bit unusual on this plan is that the davit does not pierce the platform as shown on all the other contemporary launch drawings I have seen (so far) Allan
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The aft platform beams are in place. I was not sure how these were supported, but as I don't think they would have rested directly on the planking I made clamps on which to have them rest. The beam scantlings were taken from drawing ZAZ7455, 3 1/8" wide X 4" deep. The pin blocks have been made longer than originally planned so as to rest on frames, not the planking. Allan
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I did a quick search of contemporary cutter models and cannot find any with a bell. I am sure they were there, but they are not on any of the models or contemporary plans that I found so the world may indeed be your oyster on this one. I do see the bells on schooners including on the post at the windlass on the Effie M. Morrisey which was launched in 1894 so may be a good example for your RN cutter. Allan
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Hi Bob, thanks for the post. No worries on highjacking, I opened up this can of worms. I am not sure I understand what you are saying. I downloaded all the high resolution plans and categorized them into folders as shown below. Within the folders are subfolders for each class, such as the 18 gun below. Within the subfolders are each of the plans for that particular ship as well as contracts if available.
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