chris watton

Amazing build, very well done.

Hi Ian, Same with upper decks, they were all just laid in their lengths, but I know many prefer to use shorter planks to simulate the correct lengths for each plank, to create the 3 or 4-butt shift planking patterns. Regarding scuppers, Vanguard is 72nd scale, so the holes would be tiny. There is nothing stopping you adding them if you so wish, though. I think I added them to my old Bellona prototype

For my prototype Vanguard, the planking strips for the deck were just laid next to each other, left in their full length, There is certainly no need for any kind of planking pattern for the lower gun deck.

Cyano has always made my eyes water, like Sea Hoss, I now use a fan and it isn't so bad. Looking great, by the way!

As soon as I have completed the two little kits, that one you shown is next, that is what the resin castings I posted up yesterday are for. And after that, I will be concentrating on the larger stuff. ETA -I decided to do the two smaller kits first, as there were a couple of new things/ideas I wanted to try out, to see if they worked well enough to implement with the larger main kits. They do, so they will be integrated in with my third main kit.

You are right, thank you. I will leave things as they are. If I'm honest, I too wasn't sure I liked it. I know some do not like stands at all, and prefer columns, but I also know that some kits come with no stands, something I never really understood, and the majority will use the acrylic stand provided. But of course, a few will use columns, which is also perfectly fine.

Bristol stern would be larger, Bellona larger still. here is Bristol stern above the other.. ETA - I am sure I have never shown this, it looks a little worse for wear now, but here is a pic of the original Alert prototype main winch drum that I designed using laser cut and PE parts. It made up great, but decided it may scare some novices off, as it is made from quite a few parts. It was replaced with the white metal version, which in turn was then replaced by the resin version..

Oh, almost forgot, I had these arrive this week, resin casting samples for me to build the prototype model, which will be the next main VM release (after the 2 little fishing boats, which I should be able to complete over the next three weeks - but then have to wait for other things related to them, due to lockdowns..). cannot wait to continue with the kit development these castings belong to, though..

I ordered a few sheets, it is very expensive, and I got lucky with the thickness of the sheets this time. MDF will however, always be used for false keel and bulkheads, as I prefer it, as a modeller myself. Plus I do not have to worry about slot sizes..

It is actually Speedy's sister, Flirt. As I have a little more time on my hands that I thought I'd have, I decided to compile a set of cut files for Flirt. There are changes, as the vessel will be depicted 'as built' rather than the later guise that Speedy is depicted. No copper plating for the bottom, but 'white stuff', and no flying jibboom. Stern frames are cut in 2mm birch ply, this will be incorporated into future Speedy laser cut runs, including the lower deck 2mm Ceiba or poplar plywood with etched deck detail. In the meantime, I am finishing the two small kits... Am thinking about a different stand, what about this, the base is 4mm MDF and oak veneer, and the acetate cradles are a push fit, no gluing?

Not quite in a position yet, but my aim was to get the Zulu for around the £145 price range and the Fifie for around £125. They may end up costing a little more, as the amount of pearwood in the kits, the Zulu especially, is quite a lot, but what the hell... Sails will be sold separately as they are very expensive to have made, so if they were included, the cost of the kit would be a lot higher, and perhaps some do not want, or would prefer to make their own.

Yes, that is the plan. (Assuming the whole world isn't in shut down mode by then..). I intend to release both the 80 foot Zulu (Lady Isabella) and the 70 foot Fifie (Lady Eleanor) together. There will be pre-made sail sets for both as an optional extra.

Bristol is most definitely going to happen, the decoration has already been sorted, plus the ordnance.

Agreed! After my third small/medium development (not counting the two small fishing boats), I cannot tell you how much I want to start doing larger kits. So with 5 kits available, these should help with the larger kit development and material costs. No day job today, am off sick - but no symptoms for the Corona virus, I think I am just a little run down...

Cheers If this pair sell OK, I will definitely do another one (or two) at some point.

Pre sewn sails are very expensive. I have never liked them anyway, from a personal point of view. So the thought of spending so much on sail sets (clearly, I cannot just order a couple of sets to be made, but minimum is 40 sets) is never high on my to do list. They do suit the smaller model though, especially subjects like the fishing boats, where the sail plan seem to compliment their 'character'.

Nice job, Glenn! Should have some more updates in a couple of weeks, just been beavering away getting though boring stuff. (drawings, sorting pics, waiting for sail sets etc.) I do have on order a powered miniature rope making machine, which should arrive in a couple of weeks.

Thank you. Although it is designed to be relatively easy to put together, they aren't just for beginners. I chose the Zulu especially because it has some pleasing lines, and wouldn't look out of place in most homes, and wouldn't take up so much space.

Here is the complete suite of laser cut and etched parts for the Zulu, Lady Isabella: 2 x 3mm MDF sheets 1 x 3mm Pear sheet 1 x 2mm pear sheet 3 x 1mm pear sheets 1 x 2mm acetate stand 1 x 0.8mm ply sub deck 1 x 1mm limewood laser etched deck (although the one shown is 0.6mm maple veneer, which may be an option) 1 x 0.4mm PE brass sheet

Thank you! I will certainly do another pair of small boats at some point, I have heard only good things about MarisStella and Syren, so you clearly choose well. I have never build a US based kit, all have been from the European manufacturers, but I am talking a long time ago since I bought and built one of those kits. I always remember thinking that no matter what the subject, they always seemed to look very similar to each other when built, always the same materials (that really needed replacing), same fittings etc, even for ships that were 100 or 200 years apart from each other, historically. In my mind, I still equate 'Beginners Kit' to cheap 'n' nasty, with emphasis on getting as many sold as possible, even though the modeller would really need to replace most of the kit contents, easily doubling the initial price, if they wanted a fighting chance of doing a decent job. I am talking a couple of decades ago, so not sure if things have changed... Cheers - but next time, let me know and I will send you more planks, I really wouldn't have minded at all!

Thanks! Scale is 64th, I think the one I did for Amati was 35th scale, memory hazy. Both these new (and smaller) kits are pure sailing vessels, with no motor. I have been in contact with James Pottinger, an expert of these vessels, to help get the details and overall look right.

Cheers :). If anything, at least these helped me get to know my laser machine and it's capabilities (and mine) a little better. The bulwarks are fine, the pear worked great once soaked for a few minutes, a lot better than I first thought, in fact. If it didn't work, I would have just planked the area from the top of the bulkhead tabs down to the keel. As it is, however, the pear is very pliable and I had no problems just dry clamping them in place whilst the glue dried..

Haven't updated for a while, but I have been busy, overtime at work, and me deciding it would be a very good idea to develop one simple little beginners kit, no problem, I thought... Things never quite work out how you first envisage, however. I thought I would do the minimum for beginners kit, making it cheap and easy. But I just couldn't help myself, and kept adding more parts and using better materials. These are the first kits I have done so all design and laser cutting is done completely in-house. My initial reason was for me to get used to my laser machine, rather than working on something more complex, do something a little simpler. I had intended to do just the Fifie, but I saw the lines of a Zulu and figured it would compliment the Fifie perfectly, so I decided to develop that too, in concert with the Fifie. The (80 foot) Zulu is named Lady Isabella and the (70 foot) Fifie is called Lady Eleanor. They are both late 19th/early 20th Century Scottish fishing vessels, built for the rough northern seas. The Zulu has around a third more parts than the Fifie, but both follow the standard designs, but with more helpful stuff added for beginners. Both have a laser etched deck, laser cut skeleton in MDF (tried poplar ply, too weak and birch ply, too thick, well over 3mm), and the rest of the wooden parts are all pear wood laser cut, with the decks being in 1mm limewood. Each has a brass PE sheet, first planking in 1x5mm limewood and second in 1x4mm pear wood, and masts, spars and a couple of other things in walnut. I am just waiting for my sample pre-stitched sails to arrive, two separate sails for the Fifie and three for the Zulu. I figured that just because it's aimed more at beginners, that doesn't have to mean it should be just a box of cheap crap, but hopefully, a project most can enjoy without much bother. The pic of the bulwarks show the inner sides, with all positions for the pre cut timberheads above deck level marked out, so no need for measuring. And this is where I am up to. I am currently laser cutting the wood files, as all have now been added to the prototypes and all are good. All this because I thought it would be a good idea to quickly develop a cheap little kit...

I too am not so keen on the copper, I prefer the off-white for the overall aesthetic. OK, I have been working on these two small kit, partly to try an nail some new aspects of design. Especially the way the second planking meets with the keel parts. With this very much in mind, I have designed these kits with a 'beading edge' to be glued into position all along both side of the keel after the first planking has been applied. I have included little location pegs for each pattern, so there is no chance of any of the parts slipping/moving while the glue cures. I think it will work, but these two models are double ended, which means the modeller will have to be very exact with their plank lengths or, as I will likely suggest, lay each plank in two lengths, starting each and the bow and stern..

This was my first ever wooden boat kit, I bought it in the very early '90's. back then it was the same as shown above, where you plank the two halves of the hull and then glue them together once each half has been planked. A great first kit as the hull is quite 'box-like'.