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The book The Sailing Frigate: A History in Ship Models by Robert Gardiner shows models of several frigates (British) of that period with no ports. I understand the Admiralty models did not have them to better show the ship design but the book also shows several fully rigged ships with no ports. If this book shows the actual configuration it looks like the ships with an open waist tended to have no ports. This book is a great reference with really nice photos of period models.

Just what you need is another reference to help cloud the issue.

Thanks Bindy, I have been having a great time building my first kit and am looking forward to the next one. I am not as ambitious as you with the Surprise though. I am going for something a bit simpler for my first rigged ship. I am doing Model Shipways Armed Virginia Sloop next.

Chucks parts are fantastic. I got some of his rigging blocks and rope too. It's much better that kit parts.

Al D. 

Steve, Your weathering is all coming together very nicely. The interior looks like some well used boats I have seen on the fishing boat wharves. It might look nice in a partly run up on the beach diorama with just the bow on the sand and the rest in the water. You could deploy the anchor. Just a crazy thought from the peanut gallery.   

Patrick, Can you share the evidence you have for no gun ports?  I have a pile of references on Contitution that I have not read yet but am curious.

Thanks, Al D.

 

I assume many of us have the same disease/problem.... As soon as I finish the Halifax then onto Pride of Baltimore II then I can fix/complete the Constitution then goto the Rattlesnake then the Fair American then the..........haha  

 

A lifetime of building ahead...

I can think of worse addictions to have.  I am the same way with kits in the closet. My ultimate goal is Constitution as I spent lots of time aboard when I was a kid in the 70's. I love the ship and the stories about her. I just need to build enough experience to do her justice.

I got a little time over the last couple of evenings to make a little headway. I wish I had paid more attention to the sanding on the masts. They are a bit rough and maybe should have been tapered more.  It's amazing how quickly the the work surface can get messy.

Just sensational. A treat for us viewing here.. I commend you on your beautiful workmanship. Regards Oliver

Thank you for the kind words. I just had a look at your Mermaid and it's fantastic. I am looking forward to following your build to the end.

Very impressive work. I love the attention to small details.

Good to have you back, Alde, and nice work on the rudder.

 

Where are you going to mount the cannon ??

Personally, I reckon if Bligh had one of Chuck's cannons, the whole Mutiny thing could've played out a whole lot differently !!

   

Thanks CaptainSteve, It's good to be back. As far as the cannon goes, I have no plans for it. I ordered some rigging line and blocks for the Launch and added a set of barrels and carriages to the order for the fun of it. They are the correct size for my next kit, the Armed Virginia Sloop. The kit parts are fine but Chucks are better.

Did you ever find your Brass Black? You can find the Birchwood Casey stuff on-line but the shipping may be way high for you.

Al D.

It's been a while since I have been able to work on the Bounty Launch but here is a wee bit of progress.

Here is the Rudder Hardware. I enjoyed making these. The soldering went very well and the Birchwood Casey Brass Black worked very well.

Here is the Rudder and Tiller. The Rudder needs a bit of touch up in this picture.

Here is the Rudder mounted.

In between I wanted to do something a bit different so I assembled one of Chuck Passaro's cannons. I made the rings by looping 28 gage wire around a small drill bit and gluing the twisted end into a hole drilled in the wood. Not too bad for the first try.

More soon, Al

Great work on your FA. I have this kit in the closet along with the AVS and am trying to decide which one will be my second build. I am leaning AVS but your FA sure is a fine looking ship.

This is a great build log. It's nice to see you make the effort to make sure you do it right even if it means taking it back a couple of steps. This will be my next build and I have the full Bob Hunt Practicum and will follow that and the MSW logs.

Al D.

Something else to try that I have used in 1/12 scale figure painting is gold printers ink. It needs to be mixed with a carrier like boiled linseed oil but it makes for a ver convincing gold leaf. I bought an ounce years ago and have barley used 10%. A little goes a long way. It's also available in silver cooper and bronze.

Al D.

Tom, I have never read anything that specifies colors for the gun carriages but would it not be safe to assume they would have followed British convention?

Your gun deck details look great. Even though most of the detail will be hidden they will be recorded in pictures at least.

Al D.

That looks fantastic Augie. The details really pop and enhance the great planking job.

I once did an inter library loan of "The Naval War of 1812" by Teddy Roosevelt. I got a call from my local library that the book was in and I went to pick it up. It turns out it was a first edition printed in 1912 and the last person to check it out was in 1914. I eventually found a modern reprint of the book but it was fun to borrow the old copy. It's a great way to read some old, out of print books that you might otherwise not see.

In this day and age of computer generated drawing there is no excuse for these errors on the drawings or the laser cut parts for that matter. They should be accurate. Even if the scale is off very slightly they should be symetrical.

She's looking good. Mine has been idle while I have other "more important" things going.

Can I pull up a chair and have some popcorn? That should be a fun kit to detail.

Al D.

Congratulations on popping that sucker off the building jig. It looks great. I wasn't sure I would like the distressed wood look but I do very much. You will find that the interior work is much less stressful than the planking. I have not had much time to work on mine but hope to get a couple of hours on it this weekend.

Al D.

Outstanding work and great build log. You are making it easy to follow and are doing a great job of describing what you are doing with both text and pictures. I can't wait for Chucks book and plans to be available.

Al D.

I have bought several used books from amazon and they have always been better than expected. As has been said, you can get really good deals on out of print and expensive books.

Al D.

Thanks, Keith.

Good to have you back and watching over me. Incidentally, I have discovered another method of tree-nailing which I am considering. Yet another MSW builder used a cut-off hypodermic needle to simply score the tree-nails. Perhaps the syringe was even filled with stain which was then pushed into this scoring (can't recall).

 

Gotta say that I really like how yours show up on the interior of your Launch ... however, as my Launch shall now be painted inside, this hypodermic method will be worth trying out on some test-planks. 

 

(Not looking forward to asking my local pharmacy for a "Fit-Pack' !!)

 

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Steve, Can you please post pictures of this proccess when you try it? It sounds like a simple way to get the effect without too much work. I just purchased a couple of syringes with blunt nose needles off ebay for controlled gluing. You might have a look there if shipping is not to expensive for you.

Your modified gun carrage looks great. Figuring all this stuff out is half the fun.

Tim, That looks fantastic. It looks like you are an old hand at it. 

Al D.