SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse 1897 by Mirabell61 - FINISHED - scale 1:144 - POF - first German four stacker of the Norddeutscher Lloyd line

[Mirabell61]

Rob,

 

thank you very much for your nice and much appreciated words, I shall be pleased to see you further enjoying the build....

 

Nils

[rwiederrich]

Nils...I've looked in on your other builds and I'm very impressed with the accomplishments.

Fine models all of them.

 

Rob

[Omega1234]

Hi Nils

 

...just like an old bottle of wine, your KWDG just keeps getting better and better with age, err, each update!

 

Lovely stuff.

 

Cheers

 

Patrick

Edited January 14, 2017 by Omega1234

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Nils

It has all been said before me........ so all I can say is ditto and echo everyone's entries.

My grandfather gave me his old bit and brace auger bit set. It must be 65 years old, but as good as it was only made yesterday! It comes in a wooden case with 9 bits ranging from 1/8" to 1 3/4". It's a beautiful set, but I don't need the brace head now, so I cut it off with my angle grinder and use them in my variable speed battery opperate drill.

Hasn't time change?

Well mate

Havagooday

Greg

[Mirabell61]

Thank you Rob, Patrick and Greg,

for your words......

 

Rob,

thanks for your nice compliment and for looking into the other build logs....

 

Patrick,

thats a very nice compliment, much appreciated, many thanks

 

Greg,

am pleased you like the progress, thanks for your appreciation.....

I received my new 25 mm Auger bit, which was spanned in my electric drilling machine, at lowest possible speed and test drilled in a piece of scrap wood..

Wow !, had to hold the machine very tightly, due to the resulting enormous torque. Looks like it will require a firm holding jig for srewing down, and to span the machine in the drilling stand. It gives quite a rough cut, when drilling at appr. 10° angle to the vertical line 

 

Also thanks to all the "Likes"

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

Hi Rob, Patrick and Greg,

 

.... sorry, forgot to ad the enclosed pics with the last post...

 

Nils

 

 

freehand drill cut, works out quite rough !!

 

 

 

25 mm wooden dowel from broom-bar

[Omega1234]

Hi Nils

 

I can definitely see what you mean about the roughness of the cut that the auger leaves.  I guess that wouldn't be a problem as it won't be seen once the funnels are installed?

 

Thanks

 

Patrick

[rafine]

Nils, that drill would scare me to death. Be very careful (as though you wouldn't be without my saying so).

 

Bob

[Mirabell61]

Hi Patrick and Bob,...

 

Patrick,

I do hope to get smoother cuts once I gain a little experience with that drill, and you`re right, most of the connection vanishes when the funnel and the surroundings go in place

 

Bob,

yes, I also was a bit anxious to operate that monster drill, but I shall avoid to drill any wooden plate that is already fixed to the ship

 

Nils

[druxey]

A Forstner drill bit will give smoother cuts, I think.

[reklein]

A correction for my deleted post. For 25 mm I would go with a forstner bit too. Drill slowly until you see or feel the point come through then drill from the other side using the hole left by the point as a guide. The forstner will give a very clean hole because of its cutting edges at the circumference. 

[Mirabell61]

Hi Druxey and Bill,

 

thank you both so much for your kind input reccomending ways for getting a cleaner 25 mm hole cut....    

 

Druxey,

I am familiar with the Forstner drill and did achieve super clean, smooth and precise socket holes for mounting hinged furniture doors, they had even larger diameter, thought they would not go down to 25 mm but also these are available (looked it up after reading your post....). 

 

Bill,

I know the Brad point tools, in fact I use these myself for drilling in wood, for example when doing the holes for the vent tubes (good results so far)

 

Before reading both your kind advices I had also ( another alternative) ordered a 25 mm drilling crown for wood which is equiped with a centering drill.

Trust that the Auger drill bit shall land somewhere deep in the wardrobe....

 

Cheers , Nils

Edited January 14, 2017 by Mirabell61

[reklein]

The auger is still good for drilling in big timber such as building stus, posts, and trees. Just remember to back off and clear the bit as you can get them stuck. That screww point will draw itself in very quickly.

[Chasseur]

Option is make a template and affix to deck. Then use a dremel tool with router adapter and plunge cut a hole. Then router all along the circumference and you'll have a perfect circle.

Jeff

[Mirabell61]

Thanks for your input Jeff,

 

the way you describe, is exactly the way I usualy make larger holes into relatively thin decks, etc.

The short dowels that take up the funnel tubes will have their hold in appr. 10 - 12 mm thick plates, this will be too thick for Dremel + co

 

Nils

[cog]

Can't you affix the dowels to he deck without making the hole ... or use a smaller dowel attached to the funnels

[Mirabell61]

Thanks Carl,

 

it was just my thought to slip the funnel tubes over a safely enbedded dowel which fits the inside diam. of the tube smoothly. That should privide a very rigid connection that could also withstand gentle "accidential" knocking against the funnels without doing any harm (like perhaps overstressing the funnel stays)

 

Nils

[Chasseur]

Hi Nils. I didn't realize you were going through that thick of a material. You could step/router the circumfernace cut about 3-5mm into the wood and pin with two dowels that way you wouldn't have to bore all the way through.

[Mirabell61]

Thanks for your kind reccomendation Jeff,

 

I have`nt done any fuirther trials on that behalf yet, but shall give feedback on outcome later on...

 

Nils

[captainbob]

I would put a 12mm dowel in the bottom of the 25mm dowel.  The step would cover any marks in the deck.

 

Bob

[Mirabell61]

Hi Bob,

Thanks for your nice input here.....

 

you seem to be reading my mind, that was also my (up the sleeve solution) if the other do`nt work like intended....

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

Update...

 

stuctures on the boats deck, and always considering the deck curvature over the width

 

Nils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Mirabell61]

Update....

 

outcome of the 25 mm hole drilling trials...

 

today I had a pleasant surprise with the fresh received new drilling crown. I had to try it out straight away, and am very pleased with the results....

 

Nils

 

 

good quality tool

 

 

 

the center drill with the (threaded9 adapter can take up diam 14 to 30 mm, drill crowns

 

 

 

cut at 10° angle, no problem with the center drill function

 

 

 

smooth hole sides, no breaking out at surfaces

Edited January 18, 2017 by Mirabell61

[popeye the sailor]

nice work with the hole saw Nils      

[Chasseur]

Awwwwwwwe... the Brass Meister strikes again! Awesome tool Nils.

Way to go. There was never a doubt.

 

Jeff

[Mirabell61]

Many thanks Bill, Denis and Jeff,

 

Bill,

you`re so right, the Auger is the one for rough timber, thanks for your advise to clear and withdraw the bit. (avoid to get stuck ) I`ll save it up if I ever need to build a log-cabin in the woods

 

Denis,

yes, I`m very pleased with that tool....

 

Jeff,

so now there has been found a good solutíon...

 

Nils

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

Nice and clean cut Nils. A good tool and advice are always good to have.

It proves one thing to me Nils....you are never too old to learn something. That's my case anyway.

Havagooday

Greg

Edited January 18, 2017 by Greg the peg leg sailor

[Mirabell61]

A nice word Greg,

thanks very much...

 

Nils

[Mirabell61]

small update....

 

this little structure sits up on the boats deck between 2 nd. and 3 rd. funnel.

This is the position where the large 1 st class dining lounge is situated over several decks across the whole width of the ship, because here no stackshafts interfere with the dining area.

The half round stucture will be modeled to the light dome of the dining lounge comprising about 30 single little "glassed" frames

 

Nils

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Greg the peg leg sailor]

G'day Nils

What more can I say that hasn't been said before? It's amazing again and again.

I hoped that you will have yours eyes checked out before attempting to lay the 30 pieces of glass in that dome arched window. You will need all the help that you can have to do THAT job. Looking forward to see your usually fantastic work.

Havagooday my friend

Greg