mtaylor Posted October 16, 2016 Share #211 Posted October 16, 2016 Correction.. not "cheat"... adapt, improvise, overcome. cobra1951, Robin Lous, Old Collingwood and 1 other 4 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 16, 2016 Share #212 Posted October 16, 2016 (edited) in short .... cheat ... :D BUT he will do it well, nearly invisible, which is also very important!!! Edited October 16, 2016 by cog Old Collingwood, Robin Lous, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share #213 Posted October 16, 2016 Pfff! What is cheating anyway? Strictly anything different than scaled down original materials and not made the traditional way is cheating. Even the use of electric light, modern glue and (power) tools. Not to mention resin, brass and photo etched details...it's all cheating. Anyone not cheating can raise his hand now. mtaylor, cobra1951, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 16, 2016 Share #214 Posted October 16, 2016 You are sharp today, Robin. Took your daily shot did you Yet, I am curious as to how it actually will turn out EJ_L, mtaylor, Old Collingwood and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 16, 2016 Author Share #215 Posted October 16, 2016 Only one glass of white wine. I'm also curious about how it will turn out, but with all the oars in place...not much will be visible of what I do now. Still not wasted, because all the extra interior bits I added (deck, beams, posts, seat detail, tholepins and what more... will make it look more busy and hopefully more realistic. Less boring for sure! Not done much today...the Admiral nuked my shipyard time. We visited friends. Grumpf! More soon though, Robin Baker, cobra1951, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 16, 2016 Share #216 Posted October 16, 2016 You can't win from the Admiral, whatever you do ... mtaylor, Old Collingwood, Robin Lous and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted October 17, 2016 Share #217 Posted October 17, 2016 Well done Robin !! A very highly detailed model, to be proud of. This has nothing to do with ships but is very interesting for you (and me) . You should try it. 1 bottle of cheap cognac, NOT brandy 1 orange (prick with a knife in it) 40 lumps (klontjes in dutch) of sugar 40 coffee beans Do this in a pot and wait 40 days, but shake it every 10 days yummy ... Groetjes Greetings Patrick zoly99sask, Robin Lous, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 17, 2016 Author Share #218 Posted October 17, 2016 (edited) Thanks again guys, Something new to show. I hoped for more, but I underestimated the amount of work again. What else is new? Finished the oar ropes and tensioning cable! err...one side only that is. I hoped to finish both sides and the top rower seats today, but...well...it took longer than expected. Working for 8 weeks on it now. That's not even that much, but I work on it for several hours per day, so not a quick build. Not for me anyway. One more photo...to show the effect of staining part of the bow with ebony. And....I know...the lower wales don't end at the same height. Stupid mistake, but I discovered it too late. Luckily the copper root of the ram will hide it, but still...poor! So, I'll continue with what I done now...and those bloody rower seats. Oh...and I'll do another modification. A fabric (canvas?) sun/rain roof in stored position. The roof was pulled out from the centre deck railing to the side to protect the rowers from the sun and rain. Also used in battle to offer protection from arrows and stones. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Old Collingwood, Ryland Craze, Torbogdan and 9 others 12 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donrobinson Posted October 17, 2016 Share #219 Posted October 17, 2016 Keeps getting better and better mtaylor, cobra1951, Old Collingwood and 4 others 7 Quote Completed: MS-AVS, Amati Trabaccolo, Dusek ship's boat, AL-Mayflower, Batelina - MarisStella, MarisStella-Trabakul Liburnian Novilara - MarisStella, 17th Century Battle Station, Ragusian Galley-MarisStella Current: Barque Stefano - MarisStella, On Hold: Amati Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Dowling Posted October 17, 2016 Share #220 Posted October 17, 2016 Maybe the wales were due to the constant supply of a variety of lubrication in various bottles ? Altduck, Robin Lous, cobra1951 and 3 others 6 Quote Current build : Gorch Fock Occre Completed non-boat build 1/16 Model expo Sopwith Camel - in shore leave. Previous boat builds: Amerigo Vespucci Occre Yacht Mary Artesania Latina Red Dragon (Modified) Non-boat build 1/24 scale Dennis bus by OcCre - in shore leave. Mare Nostrum (modified) Amati Oseberg (modified) Chaperon sternwheel steamer 1884 Constructo Lady Smith kit/scratch build OcCre Santisima Trinidad Cross Section Constructo Robert E Lee Paddle Steamer Constructo Louise, steam powered river boat OcCre Bounty with cutaway hull Corel Scotland Baltic Ketch (not on MSW) OcCre Spirit of Mississippi paddle steamer (not on MSW) In the Gallery: Mare Nostrum Oesberg Constructo Lady Smith Constructo Robert E Lee Constructo Louise OcCre Bounty OcCre Spirit of Mississippi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 17, 2016 Share #221 Posted October 17, 2016 Maybe the wales were due to the constant supply of a variety of lubrication in various bottles ? Exactly what I was thinking :) Altduck, cog, EJ_L and 4 others 7 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 17, 2016 Share #222 Posted October 17, 2016 Outstanding! That finish is beautiful. I'm loving all the oar ropes and tension cables. They are adding another layer of detail that makes this build more and more incredible. Robin Lous, cobra1951, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 17, 2016 Share #223 Posted October 17, 2016 Looking down the length of the ship those rails look nice and straight Altduck, mtaylor, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 19, 2016 Author Share #224 Posted October 19, 2016 (edited) Hi there! I'm not slacking, it's just these darn seats take time to make. It's 0,5 mm thick linden wood...kinda fragile. It's 5 stages to make them. 26 needed for the top rows. My eyes go on strike after half an hour when I do this, so it's several short visits to my workbench now. I guess I get it done on friday and this weekend (that's sunday and monday for me...I work on saturday) I hope to finish the large pin rail also and....I want to paint the ship's eyes this weekend! That's probably the most scary part of the build, but also looking forward to it. I hope I get that right. More soon, robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, Mike Dowling, Red and 7 others 10 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJ_L Posted October 19, 2016 Share #225 Posted October 19, 2016 Didn't you see the memo about a 10 seat a day minimum! Seriously, those seats look great! I know what that is like doing a very tiny, highly detailed part and then having to repeat the process many many time. It does indeed hurt the eyes and can quickly become tiresome. The results are worth it and those seats are going to look fantastic when you get them all made. Robin Lous, dgbot, Old Collingwood and 3 others 6 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 19, 2016 Share #226 Posted October 19, 2016 You're making bucket seats!!! Guys, the captain wants to do some waterskiing, double tempo. Those seats almost look comfi, Robin. Nice work! cobra1951, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 4 others 7 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgbot Posted October 19, 2016 Share #227 Posted October 19, 2016 Weel done Robin. I remember making several small partsyears ago and was able to get a hunk of apple. The stuff worked great. Nice close grain and no splitting or cracking. David B cobra1951, mtaylor, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote Work in progress USS Maine in cardstock.http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/7446-uss-maine-by-dgbot-hmv-card/#entry220003 Completed Blockade runner Teazer http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6063-blockade-runner-teazer-by-dgbot-card-stock/#entry175967 Completed The Monitor Lehigh http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/6920-the-monitor-lehigh-by-dgbot-card-model/#entry203680 Completed Kingston Class MCVD http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/forum/10-kit-build-logs-in-progress/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #228 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Thanks gentlemen! Finished the oar ropes and tension cable on the other side and the top row seats. Back to the pin rail I mentioned before. When I done that I can do the rear deck railing. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, zoly99sask, hof00 and 8 others 11 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hof00 Posted October 21, 2016 Share #229 Posted October 21, 2016 Awesome and wonderfully detailed build!! mtaylor, Mirabell61, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Completed Builds: A/L Bluenose II A/L Mare Nostrum Sergal/Mantua Cutty Sark A/L Pen Duick A/L Fulgaro Amati/Partworks 1/200 Bismarck A/L Sanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted October 21, 2016 Share #230 Posted October 21, 2016 lovely work Robin Nils mtaylor, WackoWolf, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 21, 2016 Share #231 Posted October 21, 2016 Absolutely clear Robin.Some magnificent work again mtaylor, WackoWolf, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #232 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) Two updates the same day...unheard of! The pin rail. I managed to make 2 mm square holes in 3x3 mm beams. Wood is wonderful stuff! The rail is 35 mm long. Still a dry fit on the deck. I'll pin it, but I displaced my stash of brass rods. Time to tidy my room I guess. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Mike Dowling, mtaylor, cog and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 21, 2016 Share #233 Posted October 21, 2016 Nice little construction foxy, mtaylor, WackoWolf and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 21, 2016 Share #234 Posted October 21, 2016 I believe the 3.5 cm when you get a ruler alongside it. When I look at it and use the pins at 2mm I would sooner calculate it 70mm. Even if it is that size, It is still a jolly good piece of work. The square holes is a feat on itself cobra1951 and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #235 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) On 21-10-2016 at 10:48 PM, cog said: I believe the 3.5 cm when you get a ruler alongside it. When I look at it and use the pins at 2mm I would sooner calculate it 70mm. Even if it is that size, It is still a jolly good piece of work. The square holes is a feat on itself With 2 mm pins your calculation is spot on...only...the pins are 1 mm. Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Red, EJ_L, hof00 and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 21, 2016 Share #236 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) So why do you make 2mm square holes. Those pins will fall through ...??? Even a greater feat, Robin. But it's 38 mmm Edited October 21, 2016 by cog EJ_L, cobra1951 and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #237 Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) The posts are 3x3 mm, the horizontal beam is 2x2 mm with 1 mm holes for the 1 mm belaying pins...made of thinned down cocktail sticks. The 2x2 mm square holes are in the posts...the horizontal beam is a 1 piece 2x2 mm beam. lenght is 35 mm on the floor + 2x 1,5mm 2 mm beam sticking out on the top. The belaying pins can't fall through the square 2x2 holes, because they're not there. Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Old Collingwood, Mike Dowling, EJ_L and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #238 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) Now busy with the rear deck railing. This will also be slightly different. (who needs a manual anyway? ) And...all the sudden the deadeyes I need become urgent. What I've seen, only one eyed deadeyes were used. It looks like the well know "normal" deadeyes with 3 holes weren't invented yet. I've seen them on the Olympias, but I think they used them for convenience, not because they're period accurate. I need 18 or 20 of these. Small problem....I didn't find the right size ready made. Converted to 1:72 scale...2.5 mm is about the right size, but that's unworkable small. Workable, but still good looking...about 4 mm. I don't think it's doable to make them from wood, so I'll try this.... brass wire in the centre...covered with styrene (Evergreen) sheet. So, the railing, deadeyes...and when I feel like it...the ship's eyes and/or rudders will be next. Oh...and a couple of oars. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, CDW, BrianD2112 and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra1951 Posted October 22, 2016 Share #239 Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) I think the one you are talking about is called a heart not a deadeye Edited October 22, 2016 by Cobr@ EJ_L, Robin Lous, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin Lous Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share #240 Posted October 22, 2016 ah! okey...thanks! In Dutch they're called "jufferblokken" and "stagkousen"...with one or 3 holes, still the same name. zoly99sask, cog, EJ_L and 3 others 6 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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