Barbossa Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share #61 Posted June 26, 2013 Hi Sjors Many thanks for showing interst, still wish I had more time to look into your and many other members logs. There's so much going on at this forum. Hello Andy, well there's only one lamp but three of those would be an overkill for sure. Take care. Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted June 26, 2013 Share #62 Posted June 26, 2013 It's no problem Christian, I'm here for a long time. When ever you find the time to take a look, you are welcome! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted June 26, 2013 Share #63 Posted June 26, 2013 The lamp looks great. I plan on adding a lamp on my Diana when I finally build her. I bought some from Cornwall Model Boats. Would she have also had a lamp on her mizzen top? Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Wood Posted June 28, 2013 Share #64 Posted June 28, 2013 Beautiful workmanship! Tim Quote Tim Current Build: Future Build: BlueJacket - USS Kidd (Fletcher Class Destroyer) Solid Hull BlueJacket - U.S.S. SAMUEL B. ROBERTS, DE413 | Butler-Class Destroyer Escort BlueJacket - 310' Destroyer "The famous "four-piper" of both World Wars" Model Shipways - Pride of Baltimore II (Topsail Schooner) Model Shipways - Willie L. Bennett (Chesapeake Bay Skipjack) Constructo - Pilar (Ernest Hemingway's Fishing Yacht) Sergal - Race Horse (Bomb Ketch) Classic Warships - USS Salem CA-139 (Heavy Cruiser) Resin Kit Pen Duick Schooner - Half Hull (Scratch Build) CSA Submarine Hunley (Resin Kit) Classic Warships - USS Washington BB-56 (Battleship) Resin Kit Blue Ridge Models - USS Alaska CB-1 (Resin Kit) Completed Builds: 18th Century Sea Mortar Endeavour Half Hull by BlueJacket Ship Crafters Scratch Build - Atlantic (Schooner 1903) Half Hull: Winner of the 1905 Kaiser's Cup Race. BlueJacket 80' ELCO PT Boat 1/48 scale Member: Hampton Roads Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share #65 Posted June 28, 2013 Hello Timothy, Thank you for your kind words. You're always welcome, Sir The lamp is fixed now and the large hammock cranes (midships) were already painted in matt black. Hope to install this next week.( so pics are to be expected ! ) There are also small hammock cranes , intended for the quarterdeck bulwark, but this will not suit on my open bulwark, I'm afraid. Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted June 29, 2013 Share #66 Posted June 29, 2013 Christian, you are one busy bunny, most people only have a glass case for their builds. Diana is looking really impressive mate. Hope the weather stays fair for you during the rest of your house build, go careful on them ladders. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted June 29, 2013 Share #67 Posted June 29, 2013 Hello Christian, The blue stripes on the curved curved rails make it look better. It adds indeed a little detail. And I like the lamp. Take care, Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #68 Posted July 6, 2013 Hi Anja, I've secured the lamp with some extra (self-made) eyelets. Hammock cranes (only midships in this build) are done and furthermore I made sure that the lads on my ship could not break their backs by falling down the stairs. Another thing is puzzling my mind since a long time : how about the color of the figurehead in the bow section ? I've seen intersting approaches on "the net" , however I'm more inclined to give this a more "wood-look-a-like" touch but how and which coat to apply on this cast figure ? Any suggestions ? Anyway, here's the actual status to be continued Blue Ensign, 4whelr, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #69 Posted July 6, 2013 continuation 4whelr, fake johnbull, mort stoll and 4 others 7 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #70 Posted July 6, 2013 that's all folks ! Blueskippy, mtaylor, mort stoll and 4 others 7 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 6, 2013 Share #71 Posted July 6, 2013 Great pictures Christian! She looks awesome ! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Posted July 6, 2013 Share #72 Posted July 6, 2013 wow doesn't she look nice all the best Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted July 6, 2013 Share #73 Posted July 6, 2013 Good morning Christian, She looks indeed very nice. Excellent work. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ensign Posted July 6, 2013 Share #74 Posted July 6, 2013 She looks absolutely wonderful Christian, if I was building Diana I would want her to turn out just like yours. Re the Figurehead, I also preferred a natural wood look on Pegasus, and used artists oils to achieve the result I wanted. Regards, B.E. Quote Current Build: Medway-longboat-1742-by-blue-ensign-½”-scale Completed builds: HMS Indefatigable-1794-by-blue-ensign-vanguard-models-1:64-scale HMS Sphinx 1775 by Blue Ensign. 1:64 scale - Vanguard Models Queen-Anne-Royal-Barge-circa-1700-by-Blue-Ensign Fifie fishing boat Lady Eleanor Muirneag-1903-–-a-scottish-zulu-fishing-boat-164-scale-based-on-the-vanguard-models-zulu-kit/ HM Cutter Alert 1777 HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 18th-century-English-longboat-by-Blue-Ensign-ms-148-scale/ 18thc English Pinnace by Blue Ensign-Model-Shipways-1:24 scale/ HMS-Pegasus-by-Blue-Ensign-finished-Victory-Models-1:64-scale/ Heller Seventy-four 1:150 scale - modified Le Superbe/Le Glorieux kit after Boudriot, waterline setting with sails. The schooner Pickle, Jotika pob kit 1:64 scale, my interpretation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Posted July 6, 2013 Share #75 Posted July 6, 2013 Hi Christian she is looking fabulous and gives me insperation for my build. Are you adding netting to the cranes, I am about to fit out the gun deck and hope it will look half as good as yours. Quote Ray Current build A set of HMS Diana`s boats @ 1/48 HMS Royal Marine a Military class Trawler Completed HMS Diana Completed build The Lady Nelson Completed Build HMS Pegasus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #76 Posted July 6, 2013 hello, many thanks and greetings to you all Anja & Sjors, BE , Ray, Kevin. This input encourages me as I'm moving slowly and little by little towards the mast & rigging part of this build, I just my might need this support, I'm afraid. B.E. : regarding the figure head : you've read my mind. As this cast build figure is still dry fit , it is time for some experiments Ray : a quite rightly query. I have this kind of gooze that you can easily find in hobby and craftsmen stores and will also try this option in dry fit modus. Although I wonder -for easthetical reasons- if this option might decrease the elegance of the open bulwarks. So this remains to be seen. Something different now : perhaps you noticed the cupboards intended for flags or whatever stuff, underneath the real practical reason : it comes in handy if you want to remove dust, wooden parts from the inside of your stern gallery windows. So these parts are also to remain dry fit. mort stoll 1 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmo Posted July 6, 2013 Share #77 Posted July 6, 2013 That's looking superb Christian. I hope when one day I can build Diana she looks half as good as yours. Quote Current build Enterprise class 28-gun frigate 1774 - scratchbuild 1:36 RC Completed builds Cruizer class brig - scratchbuild 1:36 RC HM Bomb Vessel Granado - Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #78 Posted July 6, 2013 Hi Timmo, Just went through your buildlog and the effort you made regarding the ornament rails shows that your future Diana will be just as nice as mine. I guess it still comes down to that basic rule : I always try to imagine every different episode as a separate project. But on the other hand I'd like to quote Mobbsie : sometimes you have to call it a day. I've tried to make a lamp from scratch : you really don't want to see this. Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferit Posted July 6, 2013 Share #79 Posted July 6, 2013 All words had been said... Quote Best Regards… Ferit KUTLU Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy) Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted July 7, 2013 Share #80 Posted July 7, 2013 Hi Christian, Love your build. The stern looks great as does the rest of the hull. Great idea to include the flag lockers. Have you thought about including swivel guns on the hull or the tops? Check pages 76-79 of "The Sailing Frigate" by Robert Gardener. There is a side view of the figureheads of 2 Artois Class frigates in the NMM one of which is believed to be the Diana. One figurehead looks partially painted - the top half of the Diana's - the other seems to be unpainted. All of the pictures are in color. Keep up the great work, Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share #81 Posted July 7, 2013 Hello Mort, Many thanks for your input. The idea of including swivel guns is great and very tempting for more than one reason. Therefore I'd like to refer to B.E.'s HMS Pegasus superb buildlog : the swivel guns supplied in the box are to be replaced by something more suitable. And as I have this "Peggy" on the shelf and both Diana and Pegasus are in the 1/64 scale... Besides, I’m looking for some extra 3mm blocks. "The sailing Frigate" appears to be an essential book as so many MSW-members refer to and quote from it. Time to spent some money (again), so it appears . Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollowneck Posted July 7, 2013 Share #82 Posted July 7, 2013 Christian, The recently published, "The Sailing Frigate," is money well spent. It has a wealth of high-quality model photos, many of which we've rarely seen, and very good writing that encapsulates a good deal of the developmental history of the "nimble warship." It's a British publication, so the emphasis is where one would imagine it to be, but this isn't a criticism. There are other very good books on Europe's bellicose navies. Your Diana is looking great. Clever idea on the secret air passage flag lockers to blow out dust in the captain's cabin. I'm hoping to get a case made for mine so I needn't worry about dust and such. I've made a (large) base but I discovered that a matching acrylic cover will cost slightly more than my entire build budget for the bashed kit! Oh well... I'd also like to acknowledge that your previous build log on MSW (V1.0) was an inspiration to me; the quality of your work was something I tried to emulate. Regards, Ron Quote Ron Director, Nautical Research Guild Secretary/Newsletter Editor, Philadelphia Ship Model Society Former Member/Secretary for the Connecticut Marine Model Society Current Build: Grace & Peace (Wyoming, 6-masted Schooner) Completed Builds: HMS Grecian, HMS Sphinx (as HMS Camilla) Ongakuka Maru, (Higaki Kaisen, It Takes A Village), Le Tigre Privateer, HMS Swan, HMS Godspeed, HMS Ardent, HMS Diana, Russian brig Mercury, Elizabethan Warship Revenge, Xebec Syf'Allah, USF Confederacy, HMS Granado, USS Brig Syren Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share #83 Posted July 7, 2013 Hi Ron, I've already checked about it's availability. Amazon.de, offers 3 copies. There's just enough space aside J.Boudriot's "La frégatte - Marine de France" on my bookshelf Many thanks for your input. I'm afraid, I'll also have to think seriously about a display-case...for some reason I wonder about mrs. Barbossa's opinions.... Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 7, 2013 Share #84 Posted July 7, 2013 Looks great, Christian. On the figurehead, I guess you could do a full paint job or make it look wood. I'm thinking just wood..... Worst case would be painting, decide you don't like it, strip off the paint and do it again. Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #85 Posted July 23, 2013 Little update due to extreme weather conditions (>30°celsius), even holding a paintbrush makes me sweat. However… we waited that long for this summer. The figurehead : I wanted to obtain an effect just as it was carved out of the wood, perhaps an extra layer of satin varnish ? The figurehead is still dry fit. The figurehead received one layer of white foundation and one layer of goldbrown In the meantime a little experiment for the gunports : I’ve cut out of some sparewood a port with the same dimensions and fixed a rectangular smaller piece out of a 0,5 mm sheet and overpainted it with a glossy red color, the fored holes are to receive the eyebolts at both sides.The upper side from the gunports is made from the same yellow wooden strips as applied to the hull ( above the wales) Oh yes :regarding "the sailing frigate", Amazon told me it is on its way to be continued mtaylor, dafi, freewheelinguy and 1 other 4 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 23, 2013 Author Share #86 Posted July 23, 2013 continuation mtaylor, dafi and freewheelinguy 3 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anja Posted July 23, 2013 Share #87 Posted July 23, 2013 Hello Christian, The figurehead is looking good. The color matches the ship. And nice start on the gunport lids. Stay cool. Anja Quote Those we loved but lost are no longer where they were, but are always where we are. In the gallery: Albatros 1840 - Constructo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted July 23, 2013 Share #88 Posted July 23, 2013 Hi Christian, Anja told you all ready so I agree with her. Great job on both ! And take a ice cream Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 24, 2013 Share #89 Posted July 24, 2013 Hi Christian, You could do what the rest of us are doing my friend, just melt in the corner or have a beer. Nice work on the figure head and port lids, seriously thinking of the Dianna for my next build. keep it up mate. mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbossa Posted July 24, 2013 Author Share #90 Posted July 24, 2013 Hello Anja, Sjors & MobbsieHMS Diana is a recommendable kit, I wonder if Jotika is willing to improve those copper sheets ? Are those supplied in the Agamemnon box identical ?Thanks for the encouraging comments, although I haven't entirely made my mind up yet about the figurehead. it is still dry fit and if I were to add some color I do not want this part to be to flashy. Decisions....The more reason to follow your sound advice, MobbsieCheers ! Sjors, mobbsie, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Kind regards Christian "The original always beats the copy" (supportive statement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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