HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel

[harvey1847]

Hola a todos! Hello All!

 

Hope July is treating all of you ok!

 

Finally I have almost complete the main wale... I´ve been planking and making the joinery for the gun ports at the same time. I have also started with the stern post. Let´s see how the work will come out in this another tricky part of the "building".

 

Here some pics,,,

 

 

 

 

 

And these are my first LD beams. It´s amazing that small camber on them.

 

 

Just a try. I couldn´t resist...

 

 

And here´s the upper counter rail. Instead of boiling it I left it on water (in 2lt bottle of coke i.e.) for 24h or more. Then I clamped it using a jig and let it dry for more than 3 days.

 

 

 

 

And that´s all for now...

 

Guy, That ship it´s called Franky Boy!

 

Richard, I´ll be posting more pdf´s soon. I just make them when I need them, If you need some specyfically on the stage you´re right now just ask it for. No problem at all. I do enjoy to work on CAD.

 

Hey Ray! It´s Sierra Vista close to Mesa Verde? I spent a whole year there, at Mesa Verde, back on ´92!

 

Best wishes!!

 

 

Daniel.

Edited July 13, 2014 by harvey1847

[ziled68]

Hola Daniel,

Sierra Vista is in Arizona and Mesa Verde is in Colorado. It can easily be driven to in about 9 1/2 hours. You may think that it's a long drive but the scenic view is amazing and the time goes by pretty quickly.

 

Warm Regards,

Ray

[d_yur]

Hi, Daniel! I am sorry that is not immediately revoke. I regularly see your posts. They are for me like a compass on a difficult route.

Now I do keelson and want to ask where you found this item? No one drawing I have not found.

 

Thanks and good luck.

 

Yury

[harvey1847]

Hello Vladimir!

 

I just did that piece on porpouse looking the different logs around, specially Ed´s Naiad. I thought that this piece would do an extra reinforce to all than fashion timbers (tramsons). I´ll try to find the sketch of it tomorow and post it here.

 

happy week ahead!

 

 

Daniel.

[the learner]

The wales look good! I think I will wait until I have the frist set of deck in before I start on the wale

[harvey1847]

Hello Hello!

 

The gunports are almost completed. Two more to go one on the aft and another on the fore... I managed myself to build a shelf for the ship. My workshop is quite small and it´s a way of having the ship always tidy and my table clean to work with other things plus more room for the machines.

 

I was looking the plans and counting the gunports... and I was counting fourteen on the ship and thirdteen on the plans...Of course I thought to myself the plans were wrong not My Triton. 13 vs 14teen, 13, 14, 14, 13... And the plans ARE RIGHT!! I have had tue gunport cut since post #170 18th June. No small mistakes here in this hobby.

 

Remember! Thirdteen gun ports!!

 

Here´s a bunh of pics...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can see obiously there´s is something odd with the gunport but I just thought... I do not know what I thought, I was having fun cutting the scarfs and the ceilings. Back to cut with the scroll saw.

 

 

Best wishes!

 

 

 

Daniel.

 

 

[jaerschen]

It's nice to see a new progress Daniel. You are doing a great job.

[harvey1847]

Hello All!

 

Thanks Juergen, Beatiful progress you´re making on the Leopard. I progress slower than you. Are you going to drop the HMS Triton or is it temporary "parked"? It´s the only one "as designed", please don´t do it! (leave it)

 

After the big discover about the number of gunports I have decided to leave it there, glue the ceilings and plank the whole area. I was thinking about planking it anyways.

 

I have been all this morning with gunport no.#1 and I´m pretty sattisfied with the result. It is beveled on both frames aft and fore... quite tricky.

 

Here are the pics! I know there is a lot of them for a single detail but it took me a while and as I said it´s tricky and the plans don´t show it in its complexity. The next days I will sand the wale and paint it. I´ll make some trials with srap wood first, we´ll see...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daniel.

[jaerschen]

Hi Daniel

 

My Triton isn't parked but the Leopard   . Currently I fit the afterwards Frames at the Triton but I'm a very slow model builder. I believe that all Frames are fitted at the end of Oktober.

But now one question to your build. I'm not really shure, but could it be that the upper and lower timber at the first Gunport must be fitted as you can see of the following picture?

 

[harvey1847]

Hello Juergen,

 

I guess it could be but the probrem is that the pine wood piece I have been using for all the gun ports simply do not fit on that way. I´ve seen other models and they just put it with that angle. Indeed on the sheer plan you can see the bevel on the frame and is more or less on the half of forest single frame. On my case and with that bevel I saw no necesity of cutting a long ceiling piece to conform the gunport and I decided not to "weak" the frame more than necesary.

 

Hope it helps. How does it work this first gunport on Leopard? Is it the same? Maybe you can "extrapolate" it to the hMS Triton.

 

Keep going!

 

 

Daniel.

Edited October 2, 2014 by harvey1847

[AnobiumPunctatum]

Hi Daniel,

 

very impressive progress in the last month

[captgino]

Very impressive!!

[harvey1847]

Hello All!

 

It has been a while since my last post and I am in the need to explain why It is taking me so long to post something reliable…

I have lots of “war fronts” open with the Triton, the wales, the gunports, the stern, the inside planking, the limber strake… I´m kind of lost with so many started out things so I have make kinda schedule to be followed (hope so) and erase every single point.

 

The other reason is that I have started seriously the draft of a 74 called “Principe de la Paz” (Prince of the Peace). Is a Spanish ship dated on 1803 from a shipwright called Julian Martin de Retamosa.

 

I supposed that the ship was never built because I have been searching and searching and there´s absolutely nothing about her on the books about taking action in any combat on that period. I have the plan already scanned and it´s real. I mean the draft was real. Another thing is if she was actually built or not. I supposed not.

 

Here´s a tiny pic of the whole plan. The original size is big (5906x1778 - 50x16 cm and weights 18Mb) therefore I´m able to draw on it pretty accuracy.

I think I´ll open a new log as I said to Christian (Anobium) because It´s a whole new project by itself.

 

 

No pics of the Triton by the moment but right now it´s like a volcano because if I follow the schedule she is going to grow up pretty quickly… fingers cross.

 

Best wishes and happy days! oooOH Happy Days!

 

Daniel.

[jaerschen]

Hi Daniel,

 

It sounds great your new project, very nice ship. I believe it must participated at the battle of Trafalgar if it existed, but that isn't so. But this is really only a conjecture.

I hope your Triton build to go further and you can show us some new photos soon.

[harvey1847]

HELLO Hello!

 

It´s been a while since my last post but promise, promise that I´ve been working on (the Triton). It´s just that there was nothing reliable to post here.

 

new tools: I made a block to sand the wale out of a 25x25mm piece of pine. I also discovered a metal plate to curve the timbers. I bought it years ago by mail (not inet, nor amazon) and do not remember the address of the guy. (maybe cabrapente knows it) It is pretty useful and you avoid to have lots of jigs to get the proper curvature to the timbers, specially on the stem and stern.

 

Here are the pics:

 

 

 

 

I´ll go to next post...

 

[harvey1847]

So...

 

I re-do the limber strake. I cut it to kind of square the timber using a sharp blade and some chisels. I also glued a 1x1 mm strip to simulate the step where the covers of the limber go. It has been a surgery work and really a pain on the neck.

 

I need a proxxon mill or something to reach that kind of detail, who knows... next project maybe.

 

 

 

 

All this work had to be done to start with the interior working. Right now I am dealing with the hooks and the "mast bases"

[harvey1847]

So, after all this work, I started with the bulkheads of the lower platforms. The fore one has taken me like 4 days, thinking and rethinking how the hek it was made.

 

(I´m going to speak on present cause it´s easier for me)

 

 

I start with a piece of 1mm balsa wood to try to find out the form of the bulkhead. Trial and error...for me it´s the best method.

 

 

After removing the piece several times I end with this... the pic shows the stage without the 1x1 step of the limber.

 

 

After that I glue several strips of "ramin" wood with a mix of glue and dark brown achrylic to comform the bulkhead and simulate the caulking*

 

 

 

I use a file to scrap the excess of glue and sand it with a square block.

 

 

caulking*

 

I have a question, Are all the bulkheads caulked or only the ones close to the water on the hold area? On the powder room and that zones I guess there´s no doubt. Maybe I am wrong and none of the bulkheads were caulked. Please tell me something.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[harvey1847]

I used the balsa pattern to draw the shape on the bulkhead already done. I also used it to get the different hights of the main pillar and the other small ones.

 

 

The main pole -post is 3x3  and the others 2x2. All this measures are what has been taking me a lot of time of thinking. 2 mm means 9.6 sq cm on real, 3 --- 14.4 sq cm much more or less 15x15. I always try to translate the measures to the real to see if the model looks true to the real world or is a "fake".

 

For example on the aft platform, the one for the fish and the spiritous drinks I did long ago, the strips measure 4.5mm (21.6cm real). To find out strips of that size for a hatch seems to me odd. So I re-do it with stips of 10 - 15 on real.

 

 

 

Any way here are the pics of where I am right now...

 

 

 

 

What I have wanted to explain is how the windows -doors can be open and how they work. I have not the tools to make the groove on the frame to hold the door but looks real to me.

 

Daniel.

Edited November 7, 2014 by harvey1847

[SaturnV]

Way to go Daniel! Looking sharp. And as far as the slot for the door, this would be difficult to see way down in the depths when the model is completed so extreme accuracy is not required on this level of the ship. She looks good. I would move forward with the way you are doing things and increase the accuracy as you move up to the higher decks.

 

Meanwhile, I am still sanding the inner hull of my model.....

 

Richard

[jaerschen]

Wow Daniel, nice progress. She's looking really good.

To simulate the caulking try a black permanent marker. I believe this will be a bit easier. At my Leopard had it worked very well.

Edited November 7, 2014 by jaerschen

[harvey1847]

Hello All and thanks for all the “likes” (12 in a month, hahaha)

 

Oh boy! I never thought that 60 pieces of wood would tell so much about the structure of a platform. I do know that much more of this work will be invisible with the other decks but do not not how, I keep keeping the things not simple.

 

It is quiet easy to get lost if you are trying to actually build the whole inner structure of the ship, so where do you stop detailing the different rooms…?

 

For the spirituous drinks and the fish* I thought that was odd to have such a reliable source in touch with the limber water… rats, fungus, dark water… So I have decided to make 3 separate rooms for all of this. Like that we were talking about the powder room on the magazine.

 

Here are the pics; there are lots of them from the beginning.

 

 

I ended using pieces of paper to find out the shape of the bulkhead, easier and cheapier and I ran out of balsa wood.

 

 

 

Here´s a lot of work between the pics above and the rest of the post but no pics of it... we are talking about 60 pieces that took me almost a week...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here´s the magazine where I´ll move now. Just to check. The rooms and departments kind of scare me,,, how many pieces will be involved?...

 

 

 

Need to buy a better camera...

 

 

(*) FISH: Got a question to you, Do you think it was a room for fresh fish or salad fish? If it is salad I´ll leave the bulkhead like that but if it´s fresh I´ll have to double the bulkhead with 40mm plank (for real) on both sides (2 or 3 planks).

 

On another side, I have decided to dedicate 1 week to the Triton an one to the CAD on the Principe De La Paz because otherwise I´m not going to be able to end none of them…No rush in this hobby…

 

Best wishes and happy winter! Viva J.C. Fogerty and his CCR!!!

 

 

Daniel.

[mtaylor]

Daniel,

 

I looks from here that your efforts are well worth the time.  Everything is looking super.

 

As for the fish room.... dried fish or salted fish.  Not much fresh of anything on these ships.

[jaerschen]

Hi Daniel,

 

Nice progress, it's looking great.

[harvey1847]

Thanks Mark, Jürgen, Aldo...! and all!

 

I suspected that Mark so I´ll reinforce the bulkhead and who knows if I´ll add some boxes of dried fish like mackerel or pink salmon...

 

Back to draw!

 

 

Daniel.

[mtaylor]

Daniel,

 

I'm not sure they used boxes for the fish... probably barrels.  The bread (ship's biscuit also known by some as hardtack) was bagged.

[ziled68]

Hola Daniel,

Bravo Maestro!!! Your model is looking fantastic!!! I am in the process now to build a 1:64 scale POF model of the USF Essex and will work on the lower bulkheads in a similar fasion as you are. Many thanks for the inspiration you are giving me.

 

Tu Amigo,

Raymond

[rdsaplala]

Hi Daniel,

 

Just catching up with your Triton build, excellent framing and detail work Sir, she's coming along beautifully!

[gf200702]

good

[BubbleHead]

Nice work wished mine was half as good.

Is this what your looking for.

 

TJ

 

 

InnerPost@48-1.pdf

[harvey1847]

Hello Guys and happy new year for all!

 

I am still alive but unfortunately I am not working on none of the projects... Lot´s of other things around are keeping me busy.

 

I am always around looking with "sane envy" how other logs are growing and growing...

 

TJ, I don´t underrstand your post, did I ask for that plan before? (with so many posts It´s easy to miss up a request or something) Thanks anyway...

 

Well, best wishes to all and hope to see you back posting something in a while!!

 

 

Daniel.