Jump to content

Santisima Trinidad by md1400cs – OcCre - 1/90 cross section (bashed) FINISHED


Recommended Posts

Hi Mates,

Having learned so much about rigging, gun carriages and so on with the Vasa – this one seemed like a better next fit.

 

Intend to bash this one as well.

1) Show lower, upper and weather deck framing details by leaving out some of the deck planks from each deck.

2) Will try my hand at coppering the hull

3) Scratch build much of what the kit provided.

 ===================

 Kit seems to be well thought out. I would consider this one (to me) as a basic to intermediate skill level kit. Included carriages and gun port frames and doors are pre-made of metal. The subject is certainly interesting. And its just a bit of the ship haha

 

I like the included dark timbers, not so liking the white woods, - prob. won’t use in any case.

Instructions are simple, and the mast and rigging sheets are excellent. I have no intentions of adding running rigging with sails (well for now anyway) haha

So: first steps are to add a face to the front facing frames.  So a first thank you;

 

Denis (Popeye the Sailor) – I saw you write  the word Veneer on your current Mississippi boat build - that  struck me as a perfectly simple way  to add details to the front facing frames. So ordered some veneer woods (without glue backing) from eBay.  Had NEVER thought of this as a perfect addition for detailing certain areas. :imNotWorthy: Will be perfect for the face of the front frame

 

Will also use Longridge as a reference – close enough I would think. That said, oak timbers seem hard to find. I don’t have a belt sander planking type machine. No big deal it will only be for the keel – Veneers are coming for the side framing work.

 

Welcome aboard mates, thanks to those of you already on-board – sweet indeed.

 

OK Now I need to catch up to all of your builds…..Have fallen behind

 

Cheers,

 

1.thumb.jpg.961a97e8f258e243d10eff6acd358d62.jpg2.thumb.jpg.67ac7f8b4fe991ed7a98cf2890668160.jpg3.thumb.jpg.18ff04daca51585f5cef6a81b9dbdd8c.jpg5.thumb.jpg.b1b57465553ca3a0127d2185b49e1897.jpg6.thumb.jpg.759e42be1ee8deccf6146bc1603ade6e.jpg7.thumb.jpg.93eb63ce85272de5d8b23c4a05313024.jpg8.thumb.jpg.8598995efe69e42713d53f9aa67530ac.jpg8b.thumb.jpg.50d837fad2cee0eb578f9ec7e40dae31.jpg8c.thumb.jpg.76c77ba6defed26690f0b7e99cb17c80.jpg10.thumb.jpg.7f66b8491a239a30215e1ef7e5ec0162.jpg11.thumb.jpg.099dbca664be9b5d4599a8dfe6ddd08f.jpg12.thumb.jpg.f933d315affd980a2591843e57e3fb01.jpg14.thumb.jpg.eeb3c0566b2ea337ac3a011a0871384e.jpg

 

 

 

13.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

you didn't waste any time!   on another journey I see........well...I'll just have to tag along  ;)   I don't recall,  calling it veneer,  but if you think about it,  using thin strip for planking,  and second planking,  is pretty much the same process {except it's not adhesive ready}.   it's perfect if plywood edging can be seen,  or if a lesser wood is used for primary planking.  I'm sure that thin strip of exotic woods can be found and used to enhance your model....may even cost you less  ;) 

 

I wish you well on another fantastic journey  :) 

Link to post
Share on other sites
On 3/15/2018 at 4:50 AM, md1400cs said:

Intend to bash this one as well.

 

Not sure if your kit includes much metal-work, Michael. But on another cross-section build (HMS Victory, Cristikc), I noticed the modeller had made brass footings for his deck supports. Quite a nice touch, I thought.

CristikcVictory.JPG.70368c902b93915afcfc62418db263e5.JPG

Edited by CaptainSteve
Link to post
Share on other sites

Welcome aboard mates,

 

Martyn: nice - you will prob. finish your superb ship build before I finish this little cross section. This cross section will be an excellent follow up for you indeed.

Capt. Steve: Oh yes! those are very nice. Started looking around and discovered that they come with the kit. Tried to find some as Corel fittings, but no luck. They’re on my mind – thanks for the idea and link.

I’ll ask Cristikc for the part number and see if Corel would send me some. They, Corel, have been so kind sending me extra metal parts for the Vasa. Though I did indicate that I had purchased it from Model Expo.

 

Yesterday I placed a large order of various fittings with Cornwall in the UK. I will start in earnest when the shipment, and my veneers arrive. Oh they carry Oak strips of various sizes !!

 

Cheers,

 

hms-victory-cross-section-kit-1.thumb.jpg.055edb1c652c756f8dff9fcfc5f727f7.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Mates,

 Vivian, welcome aboard as well – so nice of you to want to follow along.

 Got the veneer from eBay so first steps have started. Self-explanatory – so will keep it brief.

 Added notations within A good start –

 

PS: The veneer is really working out. It is, however, very fragile – hates, scissors, razor blades and my fingers. But once I got the hang of it we got along well, so far haha

 

Cheers,

 

1.thumb.jpg.b817b4b35a53c016372ca31922192c1b.jpg2.thumb.jpg.250190c92968502ce72fdc82180e411e.jpg3.thumb.jpg.895ab2423863b5895b9dafe9c74e0c7f.jpg5.thumb.jpg.945863a7c7de13a829e9cb39462e84a7.jpg6.thumb.jpg.9fa4706a92268b93be5b34c6b77e6aac.jpg7.thumb.jpg.8b436b9dbead062711d28c5372476e78.jpg8.thumb.jpg.493bf127c39383210487add3a1075551.jpg9.thumb.JPG.21ffaea258a2f4bf3938e3f2aa2587fb.JPG

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Mates,

 

Finishing up the front face of the frames. Pics speak for themselves. so again brief here.

 

PS: I really liked working with the veneers - for this bit - much easier than actually building all of the frames segments. Glad that its only the first one :Whew:

 

 

Oops sorry about the last pic, the text was to say; need to think about deck hight, gun carriage or not, and how to incorporate the false vertical frames and how many?

What kind of wood (they should be oak -hhmmm) 

 

1.thumb.jpg.da0de2aedb04507391b08925f099a46a.jpg2.thumb.jpg.3c510275dd0a191ca8a6b558bcd2ff51.jpg3.thumb.jpg.25e3aa2ef974c7a8e60611cbba7b42ed.jpg4.thumb.jpg.156688905c97ebc2879512c4701145b4.jpg5.thumb.jpg.0ba8d0f511f1e3b946af5a29d9e0db7b.jpg6.thumb.jpg.83c5f0a38301e0e5608e3afe7e0ba3fe.jpg7.thumb.jpg.656e18f800309b89ba68f67b8ff2c376.jpg8.thumb.jpg.3b9d9e75dc84c3fbc622fe414e724a45.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Michael.

Very nice start with extra detail on the facing frame. Gonna follow along on this one☺

Having a viewing hole is brill But bear in mind that the frames would have been much closer together and not so wide( from outside to inside)

Good for you not using the supplied deck bases.

 

Wishing you smooth sailing.

Regards Antony.

Link to post
Share on other sites

there might be a draw back to this though......you would see this looking through the model.   you may need to do this on both sides,  throughout the model,  for it to be effective.   it would be a very nice touch though  ;)    great idea of veneering the outside surface of the frame....are you going to cover the back one too?

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Mates,

 

Thanks for the likes and suggestions – Always appreciated.

 

Anthony, Captain Steve: thanks – yes I understand that many, close together, frames will be needed. Actually that was my intension for leaving some wall areas bare. I have seen, and followed some amazing scratch builds – they were my idea for adding this small added internal view especially since I will leave some of the deck planks open as well.

 

Denis: Noted – Yes your idea makes sense – but that said the interior is very claustrophobic. So I think that a small – upfront – view is the best shot. I don’t want to spend too much time adding details that are completely lost – as I did with the Vasa. Also this is a much simpler project. I may, however, do some open weather deck side wall continuing the closely placed verticals. Thanks for the idea of doing more open areas. 

 

Regarding the back frames – no I will not veneer them – I plan on building a case just like Jack’s from his log for this same cross section. Perfect case IMO The Wood shop that made my Vasa base will make this case.

 

Jack.aubrey

https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1200-santìsima-trinidad-by-jackaubrey-finished-de-agostini-scale-190-cross-section/&

 

Page 4  (thanks Jack if you see this post) :imNotWorthy: I hope that you don’t mind that I posted from your log. Also Jack following your build made me want to do this one.

 

Now working on the outer and inner keels.....

 

Cheers

5ab2a8ab0472b_Jackcasecopy.thumb.jpg.0473c58813064b858361a73672aaf83a.jpg

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Minor update;

 

Finished the two sections of keel. As I noted earlier used Longridge as my guide. Pics speak for themselves.

I have a couple of questions for the experts within the photos B)

Regards,

 

1.thumb.jpg.75fb198bcd470c2cbdc3aa92d49b8078.jpg2.thumb.jpg.5ec876200601c6bc0995933f1b7ee514.jpg3.thumb.jpg.6b866de030fcfcbe2bb5388532bd7032.jpg4.thumb.jpg.b3633ca6aea1e3106098d1a988a5de9f.jpg6.thumb.jpg.0550117dcc404a178e978aba634cceae.jpg8.thumb.jpg.2f6f536615203d7836ed1826d506e0a6.jpg9.thumb.jpg.770ff4d55f4e3603cb0506e229006065.jpg10.thumb.jpg.c619fbde16f6f4819d69bd52571e81db.jpg11.thumb.jpg.14eb7b35a208414be2771fd018a21c60.jpg12.thumb.jpg.e1c118c7923ee6905c2e915b14626457.jpg

                                                                                  

Link to post
Share on other sites

I like the look too,  but most do the tree nail look.   it wouldn't do to pull them out now.....perhaps if you were to paint them flat black?   the joint pieces going up the sides could use a couple as well.   this is going to be a tall model!   very nice ;) 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Paul,

Thank You. Learning as I am going along. Went to Google University to look up limber boards, Now I understand thanks again,

will cut them up a bit.

Please mates, anytime -  I so appreciate your advice as I go along. still learning :imNotWorthy: 

Such a fun hobby indeed !

 

keelson_limber_boards_.jpg.fd35b01a6f5ab08c4e56c95196d08662.jpg

Link to post
Share on other sites

Hi Michael.

Very nice mods to the kit.

Another build here on MSW. It's the victory but it has some real good ideas and looks nice.  https://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/18020-hms-victory-cross-section-by-ferarr-198/

Note .. The Lumber boards had slots or holes in to facatate removal to clean the Lumber passage.

And yes I like the brass pins as well. Gives it a bit of character.

This is turning out to be a masterpiece of the Santisima Trinidad. Well done for adding such fine details.

Gonna make sure I follow along with this build.

 

Regards Antony.

 

Edited by AntonyUK
Link to post
Share on other sites

Anthony,

 

Thanks - again - for sharing YES ferarr's Victory is a masterpiece. The amount of replicated details are a work of art.

As Martyn was so kind to post a few posts above - Well it will be a "double pinch" because I will study this amazing Victory cross-section

adding some of what I will be capable of pinching form ferarr's log (I did post a note on his log (:-) )

 

PS: .. The Lumber boards had slots or holes in to facilitate removal to clean the Lumber passage. NOTED thanks

 

Cheers,

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Nigel,

 

Thanks, welcome aboard indeed. You have also, as you know, been one of my sage teachers :imNotWorthy:

 

This type of build is very new to me (interiors deck by deck) but having learned much from my last effort

I feel that learning will be much easier on this project.

 

So taken by Martyn's SR - Im sooo tempted to put one of those under my table for later.

As you noted in his excellent build log she certainly is one of those "special' ones...

 

Cheers

 

Edited by md1400cs
Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...