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Posted

Unfortunately... As I like capstans of later style, I have to build a ship of this period. But I had decided to build next time - if it will be possible - Corel, Wappen von Hamburg.

http://www.modelships.de/Wappen_von_Hamburg_I_1/Detailansichten_Wappen_von_Hamburg_I_1.htm

(no capstan in sight :( )

She is very beautiful to me and the scale is 1:40 as Berlin.

These two as in the same ratio, they will be seen natural in respect of one another, I think...

First of all let me offer more praise for the exceptional work on your Berlin.  We must have similar tastes since I  am currently working on the WVH and have the Berlin on standby......If I ever get off my duff I'll re-introduce my WVH build log which disappeared with the great crash. I'm sure your version of the Hamburg will be just as or more spectacular than your efforts with the Berlin...Keep the updates coming... I'll need all the help I can get when I begin my version the Berlin.

 

JP

 

JP

Built & De-Commissioned: HMS Endeavour (Corel), HMS Unicorn (Corel),

Abandoned: HMS Bounty (AL)

Completed : Wappen Von Hamburg (Corel), Le Renommee (Euromodel)... on hold

Current WIP: Berlin by Corel

On Shelf:  HMS Bounty (Billings),

 

 

Posted

Salute John,

I am thankful for your encouragement...

 

I glued the ropes to the deck with this cement. It is transparent, gets dry about 10-15 minutes, lets me manipulate, does not change the color of the robe, does not concrete the robe as CA, let the robe be flexible and is removed very easily after getting dry... Ideal for rigging... There is more than enough... :)

 

 

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Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted

Thanks very much for this information Ferit, will purchase this cement.

 

Regards,

John

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Posted

Very nice!, I hope someday to learn your style of subtle weathering. Could you explain what you used for the aged effect of the deck?

 

/Matti

Salute Matti,

I don't deserve such words which indulge me... :D:blush:

I use a solution of wood protector in walnut color, then flat varnishing.

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted

First of all let me offer more praise for the exceptional work on your Berlin.  We must have similar tastes since I  am currently working on the WVH and have the Berlin on standby......If I ever get off my duff I'll re-introduce my WVH build log which disappeared with the great crash. I'm sure your version of the Hamburg will be just as or more spectacular than your efforts with the Berlin...Keep the updates coming... I'll need all the help I can get when I begin my version the Berlin.

 

JP

 

JP

Salute JP,

Thank a lot for your kind words... I really suspect if I am adequate but will be content if I am able to answer any question about my work.

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted (edited)

Ahoy Ferit :D

 

The cannons look great :). You set a high mark, I can only hope to do as nice a job on my build.

 

Can I ask where you found the blocks for the rigging of the guns, and what size you used? Did they come with your kit?  My kit was a recent purchase and they are not included.  I will need to add them. I would also like to know the line used too if it is not too much to ask.

Edited by JPett

 On with the Show.... B) 

 

  J.Pett

 

“If you're going through hell, keep going” (Winston Churchill)

 

Current build:  MS Rattlesnake (MS2028)

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/45-model-shipways-rattlesnake-ms2028-scale-164th/

 

Side Build: HMS Victory: Corel

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3709-hms-victory-by-jpett-corel-198/?p=104762

 

On the back burner:  1949 Chris Craft Racer: Dumas

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/939-1949-chris-craft-racer-by-jpett-dumas-kit-no-1702/

 

Sometime, but not sure when: Frigate Berlin: Corel

http://www.corel-srl.it/pdf/berlin.pdf

 

 

 

 

 

 
 

 

Posted

Hi Ferit,

 

Something I apprciate seeing is the rope pulls for the port lids. It seems not many include this detail. I've enjoyed your build since I found it and it's one I always look for for updates.

 

Regards,

Brian

"Give you joy!"

 

Current Build: RATTLESNAKE 1:64 POB (Mamoli)

 

Kits on hand: "Lexington", Mamoli: "Robert E. Lee", Scientific

Scratch to do: "Fannie Dugan", 1870s Sidewheeler Steamboat

Posted (edited)

Ahoy Ferit :D

 

The cannons look great :). You set a high mark, I can only hope to do as nice a job on my build.

 

Can I ask where you found the blocks for the rigging of the guns, and what size you used? Did they come with your kit?  My kit was a recent purchase and they are not included.  I will need to add them. I would also like to know the line used too if it is not too much to ask.

Ahoy J.Pett, you welcome...

I am happy when someone asks me something and I am able to answer.

Thanks for your kind comment as always...

You are right; the blocks for cannons are optional, the kit does not provide them, unfortunately. I have purchased them from Artesania Latina fittings, boxwood 3 mm. For the quarter deck's cannons which are smaller than the main deck's, I have sanded these blocks of 3mm to diminish down to 2 mm.

The thick rope is 1 mm in diameter, the rope through the blocks 0,5 mm. I have provided the ropes from Amati rigging lines. The kit calculates the ropes cm by cm... :(

Edited by Ferit KUTLU

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted

Hi Ferit,

 

Something I apprciate seeing is the rope pulls for the port lids. It seems not many include this detail. I've enjoyed your build since I found it and it's one I always look for for updates.

 

Regards,

Brian

Thanks very much Brian,

I am glad for your attention to my build and to the small details I try to make...

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted (edited)

Salute all of you,

I would be glad to be excused because of my mistake.

In this log I mentioned hornbeem about deck planking but that must be beech wood.

Sorry of my weakness in English language.

Edited by Ferit KUTLU

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted

Ferit,

Very nice work on the guns and rigging.  And thanks for the explanation about the rigging line and blocks.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Beautiful work! So clean!! Very impressive - thanks for sharing

hamilton

current builds: Corel HMS Bellona (1780); Admiralty models Echo cross-section (semi-scratch)
 
previous builds: MS Phantom (scuttled, 2017); MS Sultana (1767); Corel Brittany Sloop (scuttled, 2022); MS Kate Cory; MS Armed Virginia Sloop (in need of a refit); Corel Flattie; Mamoli Gretel; Amati Bluenose (1921) (scuttled, 2023); AL San Francisco (destroyed by land krakens [i.e., cats]); Corel Toulonnaise (1823); 
MS Glad Tidings (1937) (in need of a refit)HMS Blandford (1719) from Corel HMS GreyhoundFair Rosamund (1832) from OcCre Dos Amigos (missing in action); Amati Hannah (ship in a bottle); Mamoli America (1851)Bluenose fishing schooner (1921) (scratch); Off-Centre Sailing Skiff (scratch)
 
under the bench: MS Emma C Barry; MS USS Constitution; MS Flying Fish; Corel Berlin; a wood supplier Colonial Schooner Hannah; Victory Models H.M.S. Fly; CAF Models HMS Granado; MS USS Confederacy

Posted

Ferit, Im really starting to like the Berlin. I was looking at pics on the model and notice the inside of the bulwark is even. On the ships Ive seen from the period the bulwark have vertical timbers on the inside.

 

Were there diferent ways to do this when building ships back then? 

 

Here is a pic of what I mean:

 

 

/Matti

 

 

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Billing Boats Vasa

Posted (edited)

Salute Matti,

So if I am understanding you correctly, you asked me why there are not vertical timbers over the planking inside of the bulwark. Unfortunately I am not competent about period ships. I suspected about my work after your post. But I follow the plans. And at the section "scratch build logs in progress" Model Mariner is building Berlin in the same manner, very clear especially in posts no 18 and 19. Then I calmed down. By the way thank you very much for your interest.

Edited by Ferit KUTLU

Best Regards…

Ferit KUTLU

 

Under construction: Frigate Berlin (Brandenburg Navy)

Hope: Frigate Wappen Von Hamburg (Brandenburg Navy)

Posted

Matti,

Some ships (mostly warships) were planked on the inside of the weather deck bulwarks.  Some weren't.  There's no hard and fast rule on this.  The extra planking gave some protection to the deck crews from grapeshot, canister, and assorted small arms fire.

 

The Berlin seems to be one that had the planking.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

personally, I'd think on a gun ship that the more wood between you and the enemy, the best. From my limited reading, it appears more sailors died of wood splinters and infection then the actual shot its self.

Plus the finished inner bulwarks look better.

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