SD-14 by Kevin - Marcle Models - 1/70 - CARD - cargo ship forward section

[popeye the sailor]

very nice progress Kevin.   

[Kevin]

the frames between the two hulls, would they have been painted black?

 

[popeye the sailor]

what does the instructions tell you to paint them?

[Kevin]

Lol what instructions, just lots of sheets saying where it all go,

[mtaylor]

Interesting question on color for that area.   One of the red rust prevention paints maybe?  

[realworkingsailor]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was black. I'm not sure when coal-tar epoxy paint came into general use, but I recall slathering it around the ballast tank of my first ship twenty years ago. More modern ships use more of an off-white colour in the ballast tanks to improve lighting (better passive reflection from portable light sources), and defect detection. Bunker tanks are generally uncoated.

 

Andy

[Jim Lad]

Prior to coal-tar epoxy, a cement wash was often applied to double bottom tanks - especially fresh water tanks.

 

John

[cog]

On 7/24/2018 at 2:54 AM, Jim Lad said:

Prior to coal-tar epoxy, a cement wash was often applied to double bottom tanks - especially fresh water tanks.

 

John

Kevin you've got a choice out of 50 shades of grey ... intricate build ... 

[Canute]

Railroads used something called car cement to seal up the panel seams on metal roofs and that gunk was black to start. Might use a charcoal grey for that. Straight black would be way too dark.

[semorebutts]

Oh man this is an awesome build!  I look forward to watching this unfold. 

[Kevin]

TY for the replies, so if i went matt black i dont think i would be hung then, i do remember all the internal free flood compartments of warships and submarines being a thick black, so thats what i am tending to go with, plus it breaks up the build into defined areas, lol then i will go and cover it all over with hull plating

[cog]

3 hours ago, Kevin said:

then i will go and cover it all over with hull plating

At least it wont rust that easily

[Kevin]

 

Good evening everyone, from a wet and cool somerset after a few weeks of nice warm tempretures

progress on the build is going ok, in fact it looks better than the phots show it, 

time to start putting the frames in, the transverse girders are attached to this at the point where the frame changes angle
all the port side one will go in , as this side will be fully plated on the outside, im not sure about how to complete the stbd side, as i want that opened up to view the insides

some of the frames are not yet glued in so look a bit squiffy

 

 

[Old Collingwood]

Amazing work kevin,  it looks like a real ship building site,  and kudos to you takling something so flimsy.

 

OC.

[Kevin]

32 minutes ago, Old Collingwood said:

Amazing work kevin,  it looks like a real ship building site,  and kudos to you takling something so flimsy.

 

OC.

as it go together, i is surprising just how rigid she is getting, apart from the frames that support the tween deck cargo hold, they are tending to get in the way

[Jim Lad]

You're making good progress there, Kevin.

 

John

[cog]

31 minutes ago, Kevin said:

as it go together, i is surprising just how rigid she is getting, apart from the frames that support the tween deck cargo hold, they are tending to get in the way

In a way you are copying the manufacturing process of the "beast" and at this scale, paper is probably as strong as metal would be, I am not the least bit surprised it's as strong and rigid as you point out. You could compare it with the strength of a honeycomb structure ...

[Kevin]

i will try and get some better photo's, the ones above make it look far worse than it is, and the flash has washed to colour of the frames out, i am thoroughly enjoying this, i love the scale, and have a big build that is manageable in what will be 3 sections

[Kevin]

 

the build slowly gets bigger, and with a combination of planning what needs to be painted and what will be removed at a later date, im quite pleased with it
the tie bars on the stbd side are waiting for the frames to be put into place, then it will all be repainted 

 

 

[Kevin]

not much of an update, the frames are taking me forever, plus i have not been 100%

[Old Collingwood]

Hope your ok kevin  sorry to hear you have not been too good.

 

OC.

[cog]

Hope you're not feeling to bad, this weather can be hell for the youngsters ... take care of yourself!

Edited August 5, 2018 by cog

[Kevin]

Good evening everyone
i have been doing quite a lot on the build over the last few days, and photo progress as i go along, but i dont quite know whats going wrong wrt to the photo quality when i come to do an update, out side has been quite bright with tge nice sunshine we have been having, inside is cool and dingy so the flash jumps in, and i think thats part of the problem, everything is being washed out with the light
anyway

99% of the frame up to the forward line of the cargo hatch, some has be left out so that i can work inside the cargo space
the tween deck was made away from the hull so that i could paint it before fitting
some led lighting has been fitted, as i was to be able to show it on completion
the deck is not fitted yet and needs some more work to allow that,also i am working out how to cut some of it out to display the structure

this is frame 138 with the after part of the wt bulkhead adapted now to hide the led lighting wires

most frames fitted and the tween deck still being worked on


tween deck and bulkhead in place but not fitted still quite a bit to do before that happens


and limited lighting, as i did nit want it looking like a show boat

[popeye the sailor]

pretty ingenious to hide the wires inside the beams.......good use of the structure       lighting looks good!   very nice progress.

[Kevin]

6 minutes ago, popeye the sailor said:

pretty ingenious to hide the wires inside the beams.......good use of the structure       lighting looks good!   very nice progress.

thank you i just want it to show any storage in the hold,im nor sure if theses ships had any hold lighting

[popeye the sailor]

I'm sure they did.........likely to be very dark down there.   they probably would be shielded though.......prevent any ignition of grain dust.........etc          there were likely more lights as well..........but the single one would give enough insight,  I think   

[Kevin]

 

i am starting to get my head around working with card, and starting to enjoy it rather than having an attitude of its only card, 

well the tween deck has been laid and fits ok, can people please give their views on the cut out section, i hope to do this all over the build, but only if it looks ok to others,

 

 

[Kevin]

3 hours ago, popeye the sailor said:

I'm sure they did.........likely to be very dark down there.   they probably would be shielded though.......prevent any ignition of grain dust.........etc          there were likely more lights as well..........but the single one would give enough insight,  I think   

agreed, i may try another set in the forward part of the hold, or incorporate another cutaway section to let light some through from the tween deck, im presently googling cargo's and or the best wat to represent some cargo on the port side as thats the side which will be fully plated

[popeye the sailor]

I think your cut out is very well illustrated.......nicely done.

[cog]

The idea is good, I would have used sharp corners instead of this pool like shape, but that's a personal preference.

 

I think you're a bit early prepping for the cleaning lady ...