Varyag 1901 by Valeriy V - FINISHED - scale 1:75 - Russian Cruiser

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/7/2022 at 5:22 PM, wefalck said:

Really beautiful models on their own!

 

Did you tin the parts?

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Thank you!
But I did not quite understand the question about filling details, I'm sorry.

[Keith Black]

 Valeriy, this is so unbelievably well done that I'm left almost speechless. 

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[wefalck]

Valeriy, what I meant is how did you turn the brass parts silver, by chemically tinning them for example?

[Dr PR]

Once again, extraordinary craftsmanship! Beautiful models.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/7/2022 at 5:35 PM, wefalck said:

Valeriy, what I meant is how did you turn the brass parts silver, by chemically tinning them for example?

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In these photos, all parts are nickel-plated except for yellow brass.

[lmagna]

At some point words are just not enough. You reached that point long ago Valeriy! Truly a masterpiece.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/7/2022 at 5:55 PM, lmagna said:

 You reached that point long ago Valeriy! 

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Lou, I haven't gotten there yet.  

My growth process is not yet complete. I still have a lot to learn and significantly improve what I already know

[wefalck]

Do you do the plating at home or do you out-source it?

[shipman]

I would imagine Valeriy's outsource options may be a bit limited temporarily.

I think he previously mentioned he does his own plating at home.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/7/2022 at 6:40 PM, wefalck said:

Do you do the plating at home or do you out-source it?

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  On 4/7/2022 at 6:45 PM, shipman said:

I think he previously mentioned he does his own plating at home.

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Yes, I can do the simplest electroplating on my own at home.

[popeye the sailor]

your very close to Mariupol...has your city sustained any damage?   so sad what's going on 

 

your ship is amazing!  you've done so much since I last looked in!  

[shipman]

Without wishing to get involved with politics, I hope my next question won't be misinterpretated.

 

As this is a Russian ship and knowing how enthusiastic the modelling fraternity is in Eastern Urope and western Asia, what 'local' feedback your model has has generated, Valeriy?

 

Like many others here, I wish you and yours well.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/7/2022 at 9:50 PM, shipman said:

As this is a Russian ship and knowing how enthusiastic the modelling fraternity is in Eastern Urope and western Asia, what 'local' feedback your model has has generated, Valeriy?

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During the Russo-Japanese War, there was still no modern division along the national lines of the former Soviet republics.
 

But it is better to talk about politics in other forums. We're here to build ship models.  

[Veszett Roka]

  On 4/8/2022 at 5:33 AM, Valeriy V said:

But it is better to talk about politics in other forums. We're here to build ship models.  

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Agree 120%. I was followed an other, russian modeling forum. I thought that the modelers are smarter than politicians. Well, on that forum the vehicles section flooded with Z trucks, and the comments are cheers the occupants, 'our heroes' and so forth.
To be honest, i found it disgusting, and i'm not a member anymore. Also, i have to tell you that in the shipmodels section no any politics occur.

[shipman]

Valeriy, my question was intended to find out if your work was appreciated in your part of the world.

 

NOT stir the hornets nest of politics.

 

My first line ... ('Without wishing to get involved with politics, I hope my next question won't be misinterpretated.') ... was an honest statement.

 

Please accept my apologies, my motives clearly not understood.

 

I continue to be among the folk here who admire your excellent interpretive modelling skills and do grasp how unpleasant and difficult your circumstances must be. Your modesty is a lesson for people of all walks of life.

 

May you have a long and happy life.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/8/2022 at 7:19 AM, shipman said:

Please accept my apologies, my motives clearly not understood.

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Shipman!  I misunderstood you, so I must apologize but not you.  

 

  On 4/8/2022 at 7:19 AM, shipman said:

Valeriy, my question was intended to find out if your work was appreciated in your part of the world

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The model is not finished yet and only my close friends modelers can see it.

 

  On 4/8/2022 at 7:19 AM, shipman said:

May you have a long and happy life.

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Please accept my sincere thanks.  

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/8/2022 at 6:46 AM, Veszett Roka said:

 

 I thought that the modelers are smarter than politicians. 

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It depends on the person.
For example, for me, building a model is an opportunity to escape from the ongoing horror. And for some, this is an opportunity to find another reason for conflict.

[Veszett Roka]

  On 4/7/2022 at 7:29 PM, Valeriy V said:

 

Yes, I can do the simplest electroplating on my own at home.

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Back to the searchlights. Aren't they painted on the real ship? I think everything on board exposed to salt sprays must be protected from corrosion any way. Well, nickel plating is good for it, but the searchlights i saw on other ships (actual museum ships) were all painted.

 

I've found this color photo, most probably a colorized one, so more fantasy than reality. This shows the searchlights on lower position as black (or gray?) and on mast mounded ones as ochre (possibly brass?)

 

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[Valeriy V]

  On 4/8/2022 at 9:05 AM, Veszett Roka said:

Back to the searchlights. Aren't they painted on the real ship? I think everything on board exposed to salt sprays must be protected from corrosion any way. Well, nickel plating is good for it, but the searchlights i saw on other ships (actual museum ships) were all painte

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I wrote about it on the first page of the topic.  

 

Your reasoning is completely correct for the NAVIGA rules.

But I work in a completely different model concept. We usually call it "museum style", but you can call the style "shipyard building model".

 

For an example of this style, I show a photo of the armored cruiser Asama, which was the main enemy of the Varyag in his last battle.

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[Valeriy V]

Pre-installation of spotlights on the model.

[wefalck]

Just looking great!

[Brett Slater]

The workmanship on display here is out of this world. Just brilliant.

[shipman]

Varyag certainly got around. Imperial Russian Navy, Imperial Japanese Navy then Royal Navy who managed to 'lose' her off the coast of Scotland. Wasn't she finally scrapped in Germany?

[shipman]

Like the look of Asama, I assume that's the builders model; Valeiry would you let us know where you found it, please.

Don't tell me that's another of your own models 😄

[michael mott]

Valeriy, I have just been catching up, so apologies for all the likes. Wow you have been accomplishing an amazing amount of superb work, with difficult news all around. Your attention to the small details are what make your work so compelling to study.  I am sure that for some of the small repetitive details it is like a meditation, that carries you away.

 

An exquisite body of work so far on this model, you raise the bar high for all of us.

Stay safe

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Michael

[LEFEBVRE]

Bonjour à tous et toutes 😉

 

C'est tout simplement stupéfiant. ça me donne des complexes, vais je continuer le modélisme ???

 

Bravo c'est super

 

A+ 

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/8/2022 at 7:41 PM, shipman said:

Varyag certainly got around. Imperial Russian Navy, Imperial Japanese Navy then Royal Navy who managed to 'lose' her off the coast of Scotland. Wasn't she finally scrapped in Germany?

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You have a small mistake. The life cycle of the Varyag is as follows:

Imperial Russian Navy - Imperial Japanese Navy - Imperial Russian Navy.

In 1920, the cruiser was sold to a German company for cutting into metal and, while being towed from the Clyde, sank near the city of Girvan. The remains of the cruiser lie there at the bottom and now.

 

  On 4/8/2022 at 7:47 PM, shipman said:

Like the look of Asama, I assume that's the builders model; Valeiry would you let us know where you found it, please.

Don't tell me that's another of your own models 😄

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 No, I have not built Asama's model yet, but if someone wants to order such a model, I can build it.  

This model, made by Armstrong's modellers, is kept in the Maritime Museum of Istanbul.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/9/2022 at 2:32 AM, michael mott said:

An exquisite body of work so far on this model, you raise the bar high for all of us.

Stay safe

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Michael, your opinion of the great Master about my work means a lot to me.

Thank you very much for your kind words.

[shipman]

Thank you, Valeriy.

 

The Wiki page incudes this.... 'On 8 December 1917 she was seized by a detachment of British soldiers. Assigned to the Royal Navy in February 1918, she ran aground while under tow off of Ireland, but was refloated and used as a hulk until 1919'.

Then scrapped.

[Valeriy V]

  On 4/9/2022 at 11:46 AM, shipman said:

Thank you, Valeriy.

 

The Wiki page incudes this.... 'On 8 December 1917 she was seized by a detachment of British soldiers. Assigned to the Royal Navy in February 1918, she ran aground while under tow off of Ireland, but was refloated and used as a hulk until 1919'.

Then scrapped.

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In the countries of the former Soviet Union, the Varyag cruiser is, for obvious reasons, very popular. His fate has been studied by historical researchers very thoroughly. Several very detailed books have been written. Briefly from these sources:

 

- April-December 1917 the ship's crew was disbanded, the flag was lowered, the cruiser was taken under British guard
- 1918-1920 sludge ship at a dead anchor on the river Clyde
- 1920 sale of the ship for the debts of the tsarist government, towing and grounding in the Firth of Clyde
- 1924-26 ship dismantling at the accident site

 

There is no information about the inclusion of the cruiser in the Royal Navy. And if this happened, it would be impossible to sell it for other people's debts.