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I’ll be following this build.  I’ve always been interested in Hannah and would like to do a POF build at a larger scale.  This build is intriguing, though.

 

 

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Thanks Wallace and welcome Dave...the link is below and there should be no copyright issues, these are a 1/72 you'll have to scale them up to your preferred size 

plans

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Thanks for all the likes and comments...got the lower hull planked...early on I had set a goal for myself to make this the perfect plank job, we're gonna call that a stretch goal at this point🙄, I'm glad I had decided early on to paint the hull below the water line, it will allow me to fix/cover/hide the many fubars that reside there!

 

most of the planks were pre-shaped using water and heat 2097476798_60-bendingplanks.jPG.737bbb065780a7aba2f3ac0b1135dff6.jPG

I think may have run the garboard a little long?945741061_61-garboardandwales.JPG.f628abb8f43d0ad284fe984be60b52ac.JPG

I had all but completed the planking ( 2 strakes to go) when I decided I didn't care for the stern layout...I originally had just run planks horizontally across the stern below the transom...it just didn't look right, so off it came and I re-planked allowing the strakes to roll up under the wing transom, the edges will be covered by the counter planking1257055667_62-reworkingthestern...again.JPG.06a69e8dbb06f6d620d81bdc95fa5d1f.JPG1815498152_63-complete...Ihope.JPG.3886e9a71b67e74eb29dd636b1ccc7a8.JPG

the bow is a little crowded, but I'll live with it, all is clean above the wales

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a lot of sanding remains64874923_65-lowerhullcomplete.JPG.8b8249e462eb77698c7056ba02325581.JPG

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Thanks to all for the likes and comments...the lower hull has been finish sanded, started with 80 and worked up through the grits to 400, its about as smooth as you would expect

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She cleaned up pretty well and as I hoped all of the glitches fall below the waterline so they'll be covered with white stuff.

The stern post is mounted and the counter planking in place...875131567_69-counterplanking.JPG.21cffdea35b1e18641fba472b3e96450.JPG

the gaps you see will be covered by trim and fashion pieces.

The main wale strake is mounted and trimmed...

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and the waterline laid out, I may primer the bottom prior to doing anything else...still have the upper planking to do before moving on to the decking and furniture...

 

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My best to you and your's during this holiday season🎄

 

 

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OK, you're all going to think I'm around the bend...but I've torn the stern apart yet again...the upper transom this time...when I started to work on the fashion piece it became obvious that the transom was way to far back, so the fashion pieces were almost horizontal...this all stems from my initial error in interpreting the plans.  This should be the last tear down...at least for the stern... No pics yet

OBTW thanks for the likes and comments

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If you're nuts, so are the rest of us.  At least we all gather in the same place. Birds of a feather and all that.;)

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Hi Ron...it's beginning to look like it may come to that...I'm eyeing the second stern with a critical eye and not liking what I see, cheeez

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Hope everyone had a nice holiday, did you get what you wanted from Santa? :P 

The saga with the stern continues...this pic shows the original fashion pieces I spoke of back in #41...

 

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you can see how horizontal they appear compare to the plans behind the hull, and also how much distance there is between the bulkhead horns, it was the combination of these two that caused me a lot of grief.  If the distance between the horns was reduced to remove some of the horizontal run, there was not enough room in the stern for the post and rudder...soooo another tear down593770758_73-anotherteardown.JPG.ec39eadfed8e15d38a9243e68ae8e4aa.JPG

the resolution, for me anyway, was to change the angle and height of the bottom of the stern timbers and thus the top of the counter1495595008_74newangleandplanking.JPG.00f6cd63c02591e6fe982145f9acf27a.JPG

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I removed about an 1/8 inch from the bottom of the transom to align with the bottom of the stern timbers1875959882_76-completedsternandtransom.JPG.34faf22f811f2351f00e14cf2f967f83.JPG

this pic show the final configuration of the transom and counter, my fashion pieces will have a slight s bend to them, but I think it will look better the the straight line it was 

 

With the stern finally were I can live with it I moved on to cutting and pining stanchions that will be needed later2018253744_77-cutandpinstanchions.JPG.cfff79c8d027549472c4c6556e6851b2.JPG

and got the upper planking started 1556090641_78-upperplanking.JPG.affb4f3148d2a81facdc6cef127bc943.JPG

and got the hull sanded out...981809205_79-finalywhereitneedstobe.thumb.JPG.5c540ca546f21b4105f5d6a2e673b08d.JPG

you can see the final angle of the counter in this pic...she still runs a little long but once the stern post and rudder are mounted it will be much less noticeable.  Overall I'm happy with the general shape of the hull, I think she has the buff bow and sweep to the strakes required.

 

I'll complete the fashion pieces next and then move on to the deck planking...trying to decide at this point if I'm going to paint above the main wale...has anyone left basswood bright? I've always painted it in my other builds...well that's all for now, thanks for you time and attention and for the likes and comments

 

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What an interesting little schooner project - I'm going to take a chair looking over your shoulder. Thanks for sharing your wonderful progresses from Berlin/Germany.

"Let's add every day 1/2 hour of

modelship building to our

projects' progress..."

 

 

Take care!

Christian Heinrich

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simple, true and inpretentious motto of ROYAL LOUIS, 1668

Sunking's mediter. flagship most decorated ocean-going ship 

 

Ships on build:

SAINT PHILIPPE, 1693: 

1st rang French 90-gun ship - Lavente flagship (based on Heller SR - 1/92 & scratch in 1/64) 

TONNANT, 1693: 

1st rang French 90-gun ship - sister of SAINT PHILIPPE (mock-up/test-object for S.P. - scratch in 1/64) 

 

Projects in planing:

L'AURORE, 1766:

French Pleasure Corvette (after Ancre plans - scatch in 1/64)

Some Spantaneous Short Term Projects

 

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your making some great progress on her J..............your gett'in her the way you want her.   :)   look'in great!

I yam wot I yam!

finished builds:
Billings Nordkap 476 / Billings Cux 87 / Billings Mary Ann / Billings AmericA - reissue
Billings Regina - bashed into the Susan A / Andrea Gail 1:20 - semi scratch w/ Billing instructions
M&M Fun Ship - semi scratch build / Gundalow - scratch build / Jeanne D'Arc - Heller
Phylly C & Denny-Zen - the Lobsie twins - bashed & semi scratch dual build

Billing T78 Norden

 

in dry dock:
Billing's Gothenborg 1:100 / Billing's Boulogne Etaples 1:20
Billing's Half Moon 1:40 - some scratch required
Revell U.S.S. United States 1:96 - plastic/ wood modified / Academy Titanic 1:400
Trawler Syborn - semi scratch / Holiday Harbor dual build - semi scratch

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THX Denis...I think the lines look pretty good, she is fleshing out nice, IMHO...here's today's update...

the upper rough planking has been completed1783840050_80-cpmpletedroughplanking.JPG.81ff68f7a990cb8b344361a537628d65.JPG

and the outer transom trim shaped

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just soaked some birch and bent it to contour...

 

After all the stern tear downs and general abuse I put the hull through the bulkhead horns were a bit beat, so they have been surgically removed, once the inner sides of the bulkheads were somewhat smooth I added another layer of planking to the inner bulwarks...I had done this with my Half Moon build and liked the way it cleaned up the interior and added strength to the upper hull, I'll add stanchions after the margin planks are in1493787358_82-trimingthebulkheadhorns.JPG.f2d87f29be669d3c01ee2d97e2aca089.JPG

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Inner planking (dramatic closeup!!:P)  Here's the shot of the almost completed warks

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Still a little cleanup left to do on the insides...I'm leaning towards a painted finish, after all it is just basswood, now the color, hummm

 

Thanks to all for the likes and comments...later

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When considering color, you might want to do 2-3 mock ups to test a few color combinations. This way you can test things out without harming the model itself. 

 

The topsides could be a yellow ochre color with an off white bottom and black wales. However, instead of painting the topsides, consider a natural stain finish there. It will bring out the natural features of the wood and give it an oiled appearance. So long as the area is clear of glue smudges and well sanded, the stain should go on fine. You can then do the black wales and off white bottom. The bottom color probably should not be gleaming white, but just off white. That will give a better scale effect. You can also add a bit of colored trim to the topsides along the line of the railing. Maybe black, Prussian blue, or dark red. You can also paint the after topsides around the quarter deck red or Prussian blue. There are a number of pleasing options and combinations. The colors should not be bright, but a little subdued. Again, it is better for the scale effect. 

 

Above all, I strongly suggest a nearly flat finish. At scale, any kind of non flat finish tends make the model look like a toy rather than a scale model. 

 

Good luck. 

 

Russ

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Thanks the ideas Russ...I had not considered Prussian blue...I will work up some color strips...I had planed initially to leave the area above the main wale natural but am unsure if it is clear of glue at this point...I may stain it and if its not then just seal it and paint...lots to consider, thanks again for taking the time to share your suggestions

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I forgot to mention that, if you use stain on basswood, use a pre stain conditioner of some sort to make sure you get an even saturation of the stain. Stain on basswood can be very blotchy because one area will soak in while another area will not. However, I have successfully stained basswood using a pre stain conditioner. It works. Apply the conditioner and then stain and it should be fine. This would work for a natural stain or any color of stain. Again, try it on a scrap and see what you think. :)

 

Russ

 

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Thanks for this tip! I'd never heard of this before, and just looked it up. In the very near future, I'm going to build a model of Gutenburg's press and need to stain all the basswood pieces for it.

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Thanks to all for the likes and comments...the stern is done, all the fashion pieces were made from a mixture of basswood, beech and birch

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The stern post isn't glued in place yet just set in for the test fit/photo...still have to make the rudder access hole.

 

 I decided to go with a painted finish similar to the William Gilkerson painting

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That's it for now, thanks aging for hitting the like button and following along

 

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Your model is coming along well. The stern detail is good. I think the color scheme in the painting is a very good choice. 

 

Russ

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Thanks Russ, I'm going to throw some blue into the mix between the trim on the upper wales...still playing with different hues, leaning towards your suggestion of Prussian but need the to get the mix right

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Thanks to all who've taken the time to comment or hit the like button...another update

As I said back in post 60, I'm going with a paint scheme inspired by the Gilkerson painting of the Hannah, the paint stick below shows the shades I've worked up...still undecided about the bulwark interior color...90-paint.JPG.34d8eacfaaeac068d20da492e2e6fa9a.JPG

laid out the margin planks...

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and trimmed and mounted them

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got the rudder roughed out and completed750241808_93-roughrudder.JPG.ba7af3cfb1aa4dada20f1243f0e9722c.JPG1927765981_94-completedrudder.JPG.52347872f0b4ee5536f9baa791806190.JPG

then test fitted624009327_95-externalfit.thumb.JPG.5d253acb7015ffda1e2248c7832fd45c.JPG656561902_96-internalfit.JPG.5f9f91c4716180148cf81a440fee784d.JPG

then jumped back in to the planking611687652_98-plankinglayout.JPG.09f37ad0c327b1e707e48bfbb14eb685.JPG769391932_99-plankingstartedstanchionsdone.JPG.c55f4f78672a88016a1d79db97508663.JPG

that's all for now, thx again

 

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